Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.1

[pieps32]

I never played WoW (because I don't like MMO) and even though I knew the story by reading around on the internet, I was still disappointed that I never got to play the story myself. And thanks to this campaign I achieved to this, so just for this I have you to thank you so much !

The campaign in itself was just amazing, great story (the character of Phaelynne which doesn't exist in WoW if I'm right is really interesting), great music (these epic themes that you added when some big battle was happening were perfect) and great gameplay.

Most of the maps were balanced and were quite impressive. The secondary objectives were a nice touch also, they encourage scouting and the fact that they actually have an effect on the events is really nice.

The race of the forsaken was enjoyable to play, the new units have a lot of interesting of abilities and the new researches are also nice. I just found that the archers were OP for there price, because if you add the spider and the arrow improvements you get with a single archer an additional spider and at least a skeleton.

I also had some problems with the second part of chapter 5 because unless I missed out something the best strategy is to run straight into the base with everything you have until you finally win.
I also had sometimes difficulties to move around with my units because there wasn't enough place in my base for the buildings and the units, but maybe it's because I'm just terrible at organizing this.

But in the end I consider this campaign as being as good as the official ones and maybe even better because the variety in the gameplay and the length of the campaign were really nice so it's a 5/5 for me and I'm looking forward for your next projects.

 

[Unknown]

I finally finished Curse of the Forsaken campainge for 3th time and I would like to give my review, just like I did for Rise of the Blood Elves. Hope you like it if you time reading it.

Army:
Blood elf army was really great army, but Forsaken army is outstanding. For a start, it's 100% unique like Blood elves since one would have to change few things in Human army to make them 100% different (like Spell breaker and dragonhawk rider spells). Also I love that thing that Forsaken can't regenerate outside of plague . Anyway I would love to add something about specific units.
Dark ranger- My favorite unit in the army. Love Black and poison arrow. Ghosts are rather useless and can be used only as scout or last stand during the assault. Really balanced(without spider) with BE ranger, NE archer, Rifleman, Headhunter and Crypt fiend.
Dreadguard- I find this unit really great as tanking (while abomination is useful for DPS). However, I think they should be little more expensive.
Apothracy- Real backbone of the army. All it's spells are useful and there is nothing more to say, except it's epic unit.
Meat wagon- Plague is great. Altough, I'm not sure if it would be OP in costum games but, I find it really useful. Not sure sometimes if I kill more enemy units, or mine in battles of that plague.
Val'kyr- Unlike phonex, this is really good ultimate unit. In some things it was OP, like standard Necromancy should be in my opinion only for Scourge Necromancers, but it's not big deal. However, I think when it's on foot spells should be disabled and while flying, armor should be lowered.
Towers- I like them, However, I find Tower with poison arrows and plague tower useless, unlike the other Tower with black arrows and electric tower.
We now need only 2 more heroes to make race complate (one can be Knight of the ebony blade(free death knight(tank)) and the other can be Shadow priest(something like WoW Shadow priest(DPS)))
Laboratory- I think that it's little pointless. Dark ranger's spiders, or ghoul's upgrade are OP, but other upgrades are really good. On the other hand you could add those upgrades in regular buildings,(remove cloud desease and add worms, or add regerative flesh as upgrade in graveyard(on lvl 3), etc.). Like that, you can replace this building instead of teample of the damned, since cult of the damned is not part of the Forsaken).

Chapters:
Chapter 1- Nice Intro, but there is nothing special to talk about it. You showed well how Scourge power is broken in Lordaeron.
Chapter 2- I liked this. Unusual map and for some reason really challenging. Those worgens were awesome and I can't wait to see them in The Shadow of Blood.
Chapter 3- Again nothing special here however, I really love New hero Grand Apthracy(if i spelled correctly), but, I got feeling it's very simular to hero Goblin alchemist but, it's even better and I love that model.
Chapter 4- Little unbalanced. Not in term that enemy is stronger and it's impossible the win but, Vermatheras is attacked only from one side and has way to heal it self, while Sylvanas is attacked from 2 sides and has no way to heal troops. It was REALLY hard, but I won in the end. Defeating balnazzar was strangly easy, because he has no anti-air units.
Chapter 5- The hardest missions I ever played, but unlike fury of the sunwell it was possible to win. Garrosh has nice spells, but I think he should have armour 5-6, not 4. Congrutelation for making Jaina(archmage) finally useful. Archmage is at last decant hero, unlike original one which is the worst hero in my opinion. Great mission overall.
Chapter 6- It was hard to secure base coz you start with next to nothing, but it's nothing I can't handle. I love how you recapture your bases. Thrall speech, charge on the Undercity, going trough throne chamber and fight against Verimatheras, is EPIC. No word can't describe that awesomeness. ps. I love how worgens, ignored Dark Lady as we know that she will "punish" them for that.
Chapter 7- I must say that cinematic was great and I love that Lament of the Highborn. As Mission itself, I love how Dark Lady and Phaelynne land on same spot where Arthas landed to defend Frozen throne. I really love that this mission, actually gave me opportunity, to taste something like costum game with Forsaken (at least I felt like it was). However, you should fix gold mine to the north of your mine base, since there is not enough space to build HQ.
Chapter 8- Blood Queen was nice, but that part when you run from Arthas was amaizing. I was cursing all the way while escaping and trust me my language has the most bad words in the world. I love Verresa since she is like "hero archer"(Pristess of the Moon style). However, I think that her ultimate abillity dosen't suit her. I like that spell, but maybe something like strong multishot, or starfall could be better.
Chapter 9- Standard dungeon, nothing to special. Fight with Anub'arak was really good. Varian is really great hero
Chapter 10- My favorite mission of this campainge. Funny thing is that Alliance and Horde were overrun by the time I destroyed Kel'thuzad (which is 45 min into this mission).
Chapter 11- That speech is the reason why I love Sylvanas. If Blizzard kill her, I'm going to be really pissed of . Anyway, mission was really hard which is always nice, but Alliance did more damage then me.
Chapter 12- This was really intresting mission. I was able to kill every boss but my, units would suffer heavy damage, so I am ashamed to say that I cheated with greedisgood. Lich King was ultimate boss and I waited for this 10 years and it was worth it.

Bugs:
1. Meat wagon produces skeletons, altough I understand you couldn't fix it, but it's ULTRA MINI bug(if we can call this a bug)
2. Blood Elves use Farstrider lodge as HQ, instead of Spire which is kinda odd.
3. Blood Knights use Nisha voice or Liadrin, instead of Blood Elf female voice, but maybe it was intentional.
4. For some strange reason, Thrall and Ayewin mixed their voices. It was funny to hear Thrall saying "Glory to the Sin'dorei" and Ayewin "Your time has come!", but i would still love their original voices back

This is truly epic project. I can't wait for The Shadow of Blood. Do you know when will you finish it (for example will you finish it by the end of jun)
When I got more time and learn more about world editor I will try to make your races playable in costum games and another campaigne based on vanilla World of Warcraft(Varian restored to the throne, Forsaken join the Horde, Kel'thuzad attacks Undercity and Stormwind)

 

[Dark_Fuse]

B-R-I-L-L-I-A-N-T... I enjoyed the Campaign thoroughly and appreciate your effort. The story itself was well thought out and set-up. I quite enjoy WoW and it's Lore. However, to be fair, if I play any MMO, SWTOR (Star Wars the Old Republic) for example, I am sure to make myself familiar with Lore and find your two campaigns to be rather insightful despite a few very minor kinks here and there.

Glad you like it, but I don't think I'll be changing anything anytime soon. Also, the point of the ethereal banshees is to make them ethereal so they can easily enter the battle and possess someone as they usually die quickly.

I quite agree, xD. I find it rather annoying sending my banshee's into battle with my other units to have them die before possessing my enemies. I do think that the Worgens were a excellent play, them being my favourite race. I like the models and new units as well as the well-balanced maps- Oh your maps are brilliant. I'm trying to create a campaign, triggers and such I am handling but creating a good map, I suck goblin-ballz .

At the moment I'm trying to decide between my favourite Campaign between ROTBE and COTF. I'm abit biased toward's the Blood Elves however, most of my chars are Blood-Elf due to the fact I dislike the Forsaken models.

Overall:
Well thought out - Well set-up - Enjoyable - Good use of models and units - Excellent storyline.

 

[tomoraider]

Glad you three liked it! Thanks for the reviews.

Unknown, blood elves use Farstrider lodge as the main building because I did not want them to be a full race in CotF, just a minor race, so I reduced the number of buildings the have. Blood knights also use a different voice because I did not want to put in the voice I used in RotBE for just one map. And Thrall and Aewynne's voices mix if you play some other map before RotBE so Thrall's voice loads before.

 

[Unknown]

Hello @Abhuyl,
Tomorider couldn't explain everything well because not even Blizzard did that well. Tomorider tried to explain few things during the loading screen, but sometimes that wasn't enough.
For example: Story of the Burning crusade(blood elves) was horrible in WoW. Tomorider didn't introduce part where you kill Illidan. That would be probably for another campaigne, but whole story with Illidan was pointless. There was literally no reason why you have to kill Illidan. Also in WoW, Keal'thas was transformed in to Burning Legion fanatic with again no explination. Here is portrated that Keal was corrupted first by fel magic and then he joined burning legion when he lost adicted to fel magic but in WoW, "Keal joined Burning Legion because for lolz". As for naruu, he explained what he could in loading screen and in shataraah city that they captured teampest keep and Muru from drenai. Roomath and Sunreaver, also in WoW poped out of nowhere.
As for wrath of the lich king: I am glead that tomorider didn't introduce Argent crusade. They were reaĺly pointless in WoW and their leader was annoying.
The story is almost the same. The only thing I don't like is that "new lich king" which was pointless really. As for Garrosh, the epilogue was part of the cataclysm expansion. How he became warchief will be inroduced in The Shadow of Blood. Also it is stated that few years has passed since the war on the ling king.
I hope I explained well cheers

 

[Faith]

Beautiful...

 

[nik9012]

great game is ALL I CAN SAY

 

[Crixis48]

Can you do a melee map with all your races?

 

[tomoraider]

Can you do a melee map with all your races?

Sorry, I probably won't be doing that.

 

[Crixis48]

I LOVE that campaign, im playing rise of the blood elves and i cant wait for the new campaign

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

There won't be any new campaign.

 

[Antimatter]

I love the game but I don't know if there are custom spells?

 

[Sclammerz]

I love the game but I don't know if there are custom spells?

there are many custom spells there.

 

[tomoraider]

I love the game but I don't know if there are custom spells?

there are many custom spells there.

Actually you're wrong, there aren't any proper custom spells. All ''custom spells'' in the campaign are just variations of default spells.

 

[Sclammerz]

Actually you're wrong, there aren't any proper custom spells. All ''custom spells'' in the campaign are just variations of default spells.

But still. it counts.

 

[ShadowShaman.mn]

How so?

 

[rollinface697]

Hmm when i download the map to open it, winrar doesn't recognize it? its just a white blank file. So I cant play the map anyone help?

 

[tomoraider]

Hmm when i download the map to open it, winrar doesn't recognize it? its just a white blank file. So I cant play the map anyone help?

You don't need winrar for it. Just place the file into your Warcraft 3/Campaigns folder and run it ingame from the Custom Campaigns tab.

 

[orl_fur]

Awesome

Hi tomoraider, I have only recently discovered this forum as well as there were so many custom campaigns available. I've grown up with warcraft and I loved warcraft 3. It is actually the only game I still play once in a while and recently I have played it again and I have also learned about custom campaigns. I have never liked MMORPG and I have never played World Of Warcraft which means the I missed the whole evolution of the story (I only read about it). When I found out about your campaigns: forsaken and rise fo the blood elves, I was very happy since I could play the storyline a little bit but playing warcraft 3!! It is fantastic, what a great work you did! Thank you! There are lots of fun campaigns here but yours are so accurate and It is awesome that one can play the storyline of the epic "fall of the lich king" with the warcraft3 playgame. Outstanding

 

[Adunai]

Hi tomoraider, I have only recently discovered this forum as well as there were so many custom campaigns available. I've grown up with warcraft and I loved warcraft 3. It is actually the only game I still play once in a while and recently I have played it again and I have also learned about custom campaigns. I have never liked MMORPG and I have never played World Of Warcraft which means the I missed the whole evolution of the story (I only read about it). When I found out about your campaigns: forsaken and rise fo the blood elves, I was very happy since I could play the storyline a little bit but playing warcraft 3!! It is fantastic, what a great work you did! Thank you! There are lots of fun campaigns here but yours are so accurate and It is awesome that one can play the storyline of the epic "fall of the lich king" with the warcraft3 playgame. Outstanding

That's nice, just don't go overboard because these campaigns have lots of custom plotlines and characters. They aren't strict representation of the canon WoW events. And that's for the better, I guess.

 

[orl_fur]

Yes I noticed that there were several differences, and I agree that it is probaby for the better.

 

[WarCortez]

Spoiler alert for those who haven't played it yet!!!!

I recently played through your campaign and I must commend what you managed to pull out of the WoW story (which is in my opinion a rather embarassment to the Warcraft lore). You could have even completely change everything, but it was also enjoyable. I liked the boss fights, the characters were authentic (minor slips not counted), although there were some small grammar errors, like atleast instead of at least. It was a good idea to put the campaign long, well known Phaelynne to the place of random guy Bolvar who suddenly became a most important person after being in like 2 cutscenes.

I have a few observations though.

1. Too fast waves. (compared to the original campaigns. I spent like 20-30 minutes to stabilize my position.

2. Too fast jump in subtitles. (I'm a noob campaign maker, but I usually give the subtitles a little more time than it would take to tell those lines, so people can comfortably read them. I'm not a native, but a fairly good english speaker and I was in rush to follow the subtitles and barely was able to watch the events too)

3. Chapter 5 is buggy. (I saw others mentioned the problem too. This was the only chapter I needed to play with cheat)

4. It is possible to skip certain points (killing the orcs before rescuing Phaelynne, destroying the scourge bases and establishing a base before destroying the green base on chapter 6. These places should be restricted somehow, until the necessary steps are made)

5. The last vision of Varimathras remains and killable. It also referred to as "Vison" instead of "Vision".

6. Varimathras’ visions make no sense since he betrayed and "killed" Phaelynne when she opened the portal.

7. Chapter 7 was too OP as I didn’t even have time to make towers before the next wave (I kept the green base originally only to raise towers).

8. The gold mine next to my base on chapter 7 is useless because there is no room to build an HQ there.

9. The Quel’delar sword quest is bugged if I go collecting ingredients immediately. The book I receive from Korialstrasz should be a requirement for the quest and/or keeping the ingredients invisible until I spoke to Korialstrasz.

10. A little boring fact that basically everyone (Garrosh, Varian and the worgen hero) are all „warrior” classes.

11. Poison arrows on chapter 6 seem to be permanent.

12. The epilogue forsaken units are killable with Raymond, including essential characters.

13. Sylvanas’ suicide seems somewhat out of character.

14. Chapter 12 has very limited gold and a bunch of unnecessary lumber. Everything should be converted to gold based, like the last blood elf campaign. It was also annoying that during boss fights, the men I tried to spare was teleported in the middle of battle and losing them. All my gold went to resurrect heroes (Varimathras swarmed me with demons) and I managed to recruit 4 dread guards who managed to back me up against the lich king.

15. Since you included many wow speeches (even Sylanas' horrible Lois Griffin-like voice actor), you should have included the Fall of the Lich King intro and Arthas' death as well, since they said the exact same thing.

16. Balnazzar was killed then he wasn't killed, due to the Nathrezim's status, yet I saw no difference in killing him the second time, so I'm not sure how this suppose to ensure that he stays dead.

17. I don't understand the 2 types of Val'kyrs since they only have color differences. It was also a pretty weak unit and didn't worth the cost and the space it took up.

Nevertheless, I liked the campaign and it was worth to play it.

 

[iamxaxas]

13. Sylvanas’ suicide seems somewhat out of character.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/game/lore/leader-story/sylvanas-windrunner/1#readmode

 

[tomoraider]

I'm glad you liked the campaign, WarCortez.

I do agree that a couple of things don't actually completely make sense. Also, thanks for pointing out some stuff and for some suggestions, if I do an update for this campaign, I'll be sure take notice of some of the stuff you said.

 

[WarCortez]

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/game/lor...ner/1#readmode

Strange, I didn't know it was canon. Nevertheless, it's still OOC but not on tomoraider's account.

 

[iamxaxas]

i also had that reaction when i read it the first time

 

[hwane9595]

I don't think you check those all reply, but I believe check it out someday and I leave this reply

I really impressive your one of BEST Custom Map, CotF. So I want translate another language.(KOR, Korean)
Can you permission to me?
you will be more famous if you accept it.

- I Promise ..
Don't change the original creator, Just put it on my name when I create new thread. (translator)
Don't change the ballance in the game. (dmg, ms, etc.)

 

[tomoraider]

Hmm. You can translate the campaign, but you must credit me and link it to me when you're done. Also I assume you wouldn't upload it on Hive?

 

[ammebameba]

I have no more words after playing your campaigns. Thanks

 

[tomoraider]

Thank you.

 

[Nonexistent]

Have downloaded this. Saving to play this after I re-complete my Frozen Throne replay. Thank you for this wonderful campaign and hardwork. This is warcraft 4........I will also download your Rise of the Blood elves.

 

[Hogos]

Problem at the "journey to the Sunwell" Interlude

Hi,

I was playing this game to remember old times and found your campaign and decided to try it. It was all well and nice but, after the chapter 8, part 1, the game goes back to the main screen and if I try to load the interlude directly, comes only a black screen and nothing happens.

Does anyone know what's happening?

Thanks,

Hogos

 

[Sclammerz]

It seems you don't have the newest patch. You must have the latest patch.

 

[Hogos]

My game is patched with the 1.21a official patch. Does this campaign require an unofficial one?

 

[Sclammerz]

1.26 is the latest patch.

 

[Hogos]

Thank you! I'll download and install it, then test and tell if it solved the issue.

 

[Hogos]

Well, thank you, it solved.

 

[Sclammerz]

You're welcome but please don't double post next time around it's against the rules.

 

[MURDER KING]

Rather is a specificate campaign and i liket

 

[MgDark]

could i get some advice for chapter six "battle for the undercity"? i keep getting overwhelmed and there are too many bases and too many fronts to defend, how im supposed to clear this chapter?

 

[tomoraider]

could i get some advice for chapter six "battle for the undercity"? i keep getting overwhelmed and there are too many bases and too many fronts to defend, how im supposed to clear this chapter?

The trick is, when you kill a demon general, you gain control of their units and their base. The best way to quickly gain some reinforcements is to rush the demon general in the base on the northeast and the demon general in the field on the east. That way, you'll quickly gain two smaller bases and the rest of the chapter will be easier.

 

[ForgottenNightmare]

Tomoraider. I tested out this campaign of your's the past few days and honestly I am impressed with it. The other campaigns I played of yours were good. I did like them, but this one is the campaign that made me a fan of you. From now on I think I will start calling you the Forsaken Heir of Blizzard Entertainment. The storyline was amazing. The Forsaken Race was seemingly well balanced. Awesome lore twist without damaging it too much. It is in itself a perfect masterpiece. I would also like to ask of you some help in a campaign I am privately working on a campaign that you can choose to help with if you want to. I have been contemplating on putting a forum for the campaign up on here though. So if you are interested in helping, then PM me and I can share all that I have with you and we can work on it from there, otherwise I can see how it will turn out from the posting the finished version of it up on this website.

 

[tomoraider]

Thank you, ForgottenNightmare, I'm glad you liked it! Unfortunately, I have no time to actually help you with the campaign, but I can give you a few tips and such if you need any.

 

[tomoraider]

50k downloads! This is quite a number. Thanks, everyone!

 

[kennydeatras]

Hi! First of all: THANK YOU FOR THIS AWESOME CAMPAIGN! It was the very first of yours that I downloaded, and I love it! I'm currently downloading the Blood Elves campaign and I'm sure it'll blow me away, too.

Just two questions tho:
1. Did you use a model for the Dalaran Shield? Because I'm very interested in it and I was wondering if you used it from a resource here or did it yourself.

2. Jaina's Telekinesis ability. Did you make that yourself or use a particular resource because I would really like to use it (with permission of course, if that is at all possible) in a map I'm making.

Thank you again for that sick campaign! A+

 

[tomoraider]

Hi, glad you liked it! This is the model I used for the Dalaran Shield: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...byepsilon-215827/?prev=search=sc2&d=list&r=20
And this is the Telekinesis spell: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...n-121676/?prev=search=telekinesis&d=list&r=20

 

[kennydeatras]

And you're amazing in replying so fast! Thank you!!

 

[MURDER KING]

Hello! after i played the first chapter it not show me victorious i mean the game stuck .?

 

[tomoraider]

Hello! after i played the first chapter it not show me victorious i mean the game stuck .?

Can you explain a bit more? I assume you didn't destroy the entire Scarlet Crusade base if the map is not ending.

 

[MURDER KING]

Hello,you see a play the latest version of yours ,and after i destroyed the all theyr buildings inclusiv the main base ,nothing's happen,but you know the gate wich holds the city in the midlle of the map,i have not destroyed,i went where no gate wheel but i don;t think this is a problem ,i dont know what to do with this.