Curse of the Forsaken v3.0.1

[Mr.Innocent]

What? What offer?

the new rise of the blood elf..

 

[tomoraider]

the new rise of the blood elf..

There is no download because that's only a thread where I Show the work I did.

 

[Caligula666]

Just finished the campaign and it was great, challenging and worth the time. The only critique I have is that the "The Hesitant Alliance" (Orgrimma defence) map is too hard/ imbalanced. I won every other map the first time i played them, except the beforementioned, which I after trying it 7-8 times with different combos of heroes and abillyties had to cheat to make it.

Think upgrading the Orc units to the max, and maybe giving them some more units would help making it balanced.

Other than that 4,5/5 from me.

 

[tomoraider]

Just finished the campaign and it was great, challenging and worth the time. The only critique I have is that the "The Hesitant Alliance" (Orgrimma defence) map is too hard/ imbalanced. I won every other map the first time i played them, except the beforementioned, which I after trying it 7-8 times with different combos of heroes and abillyties had to cheat to make it.

Think upgrading the Orc units to the max, and maybe giving them some more units would help making it balanced.

Other than that 4,5/5 from me.

Thanks, glad you liked it. I never found that map too hard, but I'll see, I might change something.

 

[Forsaken]

I never found that map too hard, but I'll see, I might change something.

it is a quit difficult, and, when made the map in this stile, you always think that is so "easy" cause you already know what will happen, and how defende the place, it's normal
and yes u can make more easy

 

[tomoraider]

it is a quit difficult, and, when made the map in this stile, you always think that is so "easy" cause you already know what will happen, and how defende the place, it's normal
and yes u can make more easy

Yeah probably, I test my maps way too many times ._.

 

[knight26]

it is a quit difficult, and, when made the map in this stile, you always think that is so "easy" cause you already know what will happen, and how defende the place, it's normal
and yes u can make more easy

Bro, you gotta agree though, it's not HARD, it just takes more time per each map, cos first you need to tech up and then advance.
I'm going to re-play the campaign today and tomorrow, on hard setting.

 

[tomoraider]

Bro, you gotta agree though, it's not HARD, it just takes more time per each map, cos first you need to tech up and then advance.
I'm going to re-play the campaign today and tomorrow, on hard setting.

There is no hard setting xD

 

[knight26]

There is no hard setting xD

Yeah I realized that last night.
Nevermind, it's still fun as last time

 

[Formidable10]

my review

SPOILERS!!!

Story 4/5

I loved the story and it was told beautifully through the campaign, but I felt that some elements from WoW lore shouldn't have been ignored, for instance, I was hoping Tirion Fordring would be in the story because he is an interesting character and I thought he should have been in the final campaign against the lich king. Also I thought the fake death plot device was kinda lame, I preferred the idea of Balnazzar possessing one of the leaders of the Scarlet Crusade which would make more sense in terms of being able to manipulating them as described in the WoW comics. Varithmathras is the highlight of this story, I love how he is portrayed and seems like a more interesting villain in comparison to Archimonde or Balnazzar.

Triggers 4/5
The A.I cannot rebuild itself after you kill all of their peasants even though they have the resources to do it, though it does balance the difficulty. The cutscenes are fantastic and the new abilities are cool and original.

Modifications: 4/5
I love the new skin for Sylvanas and adding dialogue from the WoW game to make it feel more like the story. Though I wished you got a new model for Garrosh because he looks too much like or you could replace Althein's model. I
also would have liked to see new skins for some of the scourge units since to me it feels weird to see Forsaken units like Banshees working for the Scourge without some clear distinction, I loved the animations for the Valk'yr.

Difficulty and Balancing: 3/5
Though the forsaken archers are extremely useful with their upgrades, the difficulty seems a little unrealistic since most of the time when your fighting enemies, there are usually three to four enemy bases in comparison with your one base, often sending two attack waves in different directions at the same time which makes the game unnecessarily longer, I do like a good challenge but it kinda takes away from the fun of the campaign, a difficulty option would be a HUGE improvement or just reducing the number of enemy bases to make it feel more realistic, I rather face one or two challenging enemies as compared with three or four, or even five.

Textures and Environments: 4/5
Honestly I love the environments, the attention to detail just immerses me in the world even more, though it annoys me when you force invisible wall like obstacles like in the first mission, I know its said that there was a forcefield but I think it's forced.

Overall 19/25 Great but not perfect
If the difficulty was adjusted, added some new models, and maybe even make the Worgen faction playable in some of the missions, especially mission two, and adjust some of the triggers, also changing the story a little would help. I think the campaign would be perfect. Still it's a very well written

 

[tomoraider]

Review

Thanks for such a long review, I'm glad you liked it.

About the story, I'm actually going to update the campaign once I'm done with my other project, and I'll actually change some of the parts, like Balnazzar possessing a leader of SC, because it actually sounds more interesting than what I did.

The AI, it's going to be improved as well.

Hmm, you might be right about too much bases. There are some maps where there is a reason for a lot of enemy bases, but perhaps you're right.

And yeah, about invisible walls, I gotta find a more interesting way to explain that instead of just invisible walls.

Thank you again for such a nice review, I'm really glad you enjoyed it

 

[Valentin43]

Download and test.

 

[Formidable10]

I really did like the campaign. I do admit the number of bases is sometimes justified. I look forward to seeing your new update. I always love modders like you who try to create innovative campaigns with an interesting story and characters. Because usually if any one of those elements are lacking the campaign itself is significantly weaker. Keep up the good work.

 

[tomoraider]

I really did like the campaign. I do admit the number of bases is sometimes justified. I look forward to seeing your new update. I always love modders like you who try to create innovative campaigns with an interesting story and characters. Because usually if any one of those elements are lacking the campaign itself is significantly weaker. Keep up the good work.

Thank you

 

[Bratdon4life]

I am having trouble with the game some reason every time i click on a dark ranger the game crashes it might be because i have a mac. I really want to play this game if you can fix it i would be ever so grateful.

 

[tomoraider]

I am having trouble with the game some reason every time i click on a dark ranger the game crashes it might be because i have a mac. I really want to play this game if you can fix it i would be ever so grateful.

Yeah, it's probably because you have a mac, can't help you out then, sorry :\

 

[iamxaxas]

I just posted this a few minutes ago, then deleted it, cause I thought i had found what the problem was, but now i've discovered what was causing that... XD... confusing...

So, anyways, there's a bug on chapter 6, the crypt fiends are already attacking before being created (those in the middle of Oggrimar). You can see their projectiles, and they attack the buildings and ensnare the flyers, but you can't attack them or see them (even with far sight).

 

[tomoraider]

I just posted this a few minutes ago, then deleted it, cause I thought i had found what the problem was, but now i've discovered what was causing that... XD... confusing...

So, anyways, there's a bug on chapter 6, the crypt fiends are already attacking before being created (those in the middle of Oggrimar). You can see their projectiles, and they attack the buildings and ensnare the flyers, but you can't attack them or see them (even with far sight).

I had no idea about that, lol, thanks for reporting it, I'll fix it when I start updating the campaign.

 

[MrHobby53]

I don't know if someone has already wrote that there is a bug in the chapter where undead attack ogrimar the flying units are webbed until the nerubians attack from the ground :\ soooo yeah...

 

[kcryan]

Awesome campaign, i like the dialogues,it gives me the "blizzard" feel!the models look so COOL!where did you get it? or did you make it yourself? i think i found a bug in chapter 2 when reached the gargoyle nest on the replay the dialogues didn't appear! it didn't happen when i first play the chapter!

 

[strannik]

hello, nice campaign, there iss a bug in chapter where need to close portals by Trall, there can close same portals all the time when Trall step on the cirkle. It is a bit chiting. And for the last chapter in ice citadale add more coins or rewards for killing bosses

 

[tomoraider]

hello, nice campaign, there iss a bug in chapter where need to close portals by Trall, there can close same portals all the time when Trall step on the cirkle. It is a bit chiting. And for the last chapter in ice citadale add more coins or rewards for killing bosses

I'm glad you liked it, but I don't understand what you mean by the first bug. And for the last chapter, I think there are enough coins/rewards.

 

[strannik]

It was in chapter 5. there where is need to close 5 portals, when first portal i"m closed and then build there a base, and i"m step again on that circkle Trall start again that same portal to close. and i"m checkked other portals werre opened that first portal i closed 5 times

 

[tomoraider]

It was in chapter 5. there where is need to close 5 portals, when first portal i"m closed and then build there a base, and i"m step again on that circkle Trall start again that same portal to close. and i"m checkked other portals werre opened that first portal i closed 5 times

Huh, weird. I'll check that out, thanks for pointing it out.

 

[JAMES SOUTHERLAND]

Oh shit the guy that made this is a nightwish fan thats awesome

 

[tomoraider]

Oh shit the guy that made this is a nightwish fan thats awesome

More of a Tarja fan than Nightwish fan, though I like some of their music as well

 

[iamxaxas]

Any of you guys ever heard Kamelot or Within Temptation? If you haven't, you're wasting your life...

 

[tomoraider]

Any of you guys ever heard Kamelot or Within Temptation? If you haven't, you're wasting your life...

Within Temptation is my favorite band, I love listening to them!

 

[Frantisek2580]

this is great campaign

 

[DarknessRain]

My new favorite campaign. Loved the custom units, cutsom abilities, and the voices. Especially the voices in the cinematic, were those the original voice actors? It almost sounded like they were sound clips taken from some other story.

I noticed maybe about 5 times grammatical errors in the text on the cinematic. Things like "now it is time for you death," or something like that.

On the level with the portals, that the player has to close, I noticed Thrall can step into the same circle of power multiple times and it still increases portals closed. Also on that level I actually ran out of gold with 2 enemy bases still left standing, so I cheated a little to finish.

On the last level, most of my men died super fast, so I just kept waiting and sending in my hero's summons to kill the enemies one at a time (which took very long).

This is one of the few campaigns I've played that actually fit the feel and style of the original campaigns, which is awesome.

 

[tomoraider]

My new favorite campaign. Loved the custom units, cutsom abilities, and the voices. Especially the voices in the cinematic, were those the original voice actors? It almost sounded like they were sound clips taken from some other story.

I noticed maybe about 5 times grammatical errors in the text on the cinematic. Things like "now it is time for you death," or something like that.

On the level with the portals, that the player has to close, I noticed Thrall can step into the same circle of power multiple times and it still increases portals closed. Also on that level I actually ran out of gold with 2 enemy bases still left standing, so I cheated a little to finish.

On the last level, most of my men died super fast, so I just kept waiting and sending in my hero's summons to kill the enemies one at a time (which took very long).

This is one of the few campaigns I've played that actually fit the feel and style of the original campaigns, which is awesome.

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. And those are voices from World of Warcraft.

 

[Nightmare2077]

Sorry if this bug has already been reported:
In mission 5 where you have to close the portals via Thrall, if he starts closing it and then dies there seems to be a glitch:
1. The lines continue though Thrall is dead and the portal is no longer in the process of being closed (lines like "hold on, Sylvanas! just a bit more")
2. Then after i resurrected Tarall he stepped into a DIFFERENT circle of power, the one bound to an already closed (i.e. non-existing) portal, and the process started. So i closed the same "portal" the seconds time, and it counted towards the main objective.

Other things are fine, good job!

 

[tomoraider]

Sorry if this bug has already been reported:
In mission 5 where you have to close the portals via Thrall, if he starts closing it and then dies there seems to be a glitch:
1. The lines continue though Thrall is dead and the portal is no longer in the process of being closed (lines like "hold on, Sylvanas! just a bit more")
2. Then after i resurrected Tarall he stepped into a DIFFERENT circle of power, the one bound to an already closed (i.e. non-existing) portal, and the process started. So i closed the same "portal" the seconds time, and it counted towards the main objective.

Other things are fine, good job!

Thanks for reporting that, but I think someone already mentioned it, though I'm not sure.

 

[X59]

Pretty interesting campaign and it starts off strong but doesn't stay strong.
Don't get me wrong going to Northrend, facing off against the Lich King, Anub'Arak, Kel'Thuzad, and the rest of the Scourge felt powerful but it was off set by the Varimathras plot continuing past Ch. 5 and took attention away from it. Because in all honesty Varimathas felt like the disc 1 boss and then we had the time skip between Ch. 5 and 6, and the Lich King felt like the disc 2 boss. As such having Varimathas appearing and then facing him in Icecrown itself was weird and made me feel like a ping pong ball because were fighting the Scourge, then the Legion, and then Scourge.

Furthermore the Phaelynne story line was in all honesty weak. Unlike other characters who find themselves in positions of power due to a series of events, we never saw the series of events that made Sylvannas make Phaelynne her right hand and adviser. After all we saw why James Raynor became a leader of a group of Terrans in Starcraft and how Rexxar went from wanderer into the Champion of the Horde in the Founding of Durotar campaign, but here we have Sylvannas out of the blue and randomly making someone she doesn't really know her right hand over Forsaken who've been with Sylvannas since the beginning of her fight against the Dreadlords.

At the same the thought of Phaelynne becoming the Jailer of the Damned is so funny that it's sad because she's shown that she can become enslaved to a demon's will. Even worse is that when Varimathras is defeated in Icecrown Sylvanas mentions that she will see him again and as we've seen Phaelynne always succumbs to Varimathras's control.

Meanwhile I did find some bugs in the campaign:
-In Ch. 3
*If Varimathas becomes surrounded by friendly units he is unable to move forward and destroy the gate. As such the only way to continue is to hit the escape key and then destroy the gate with my units, including Phaelynne.

-Ch. 4
*Darkclaw's items are seen before he is killed.
*Varimathras's acolytes stop harvesting gold when he teams up with Balnazzar.

-In Ch. 9
*Even though I completed the Sindragosa optional quest and received the item, the quest menu did not show it as completed.

-Ch. 10
*Jaina begins her Mount Hyjal aid speech and Kel'Thuzad asks if King Arthas needs assistance before the intro on the Alliance-Horde meeting.

-Ch. 11
*The necromancer units says that our brethren need assistance before the intro cinematic begins.
*Sylvanas's first dialogue is up for like two seconds before Phaelynne randomly says burn, which no one reacts to.
*Neither the undead units or demons (escape for Lord Marrowgain and the demons who destroyed the gate) attack. They just stand and die. This only fixed itself when I defeated my second boss (Phaelynne)
*I am unable to control my units and can only use my heroes. This only fixed itself when I defeated by second boss (Phaelynne), which bright my units to me.
*I acquired an extra Apothecary after defeating Varimathras.

 

[tomoraider]

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I liked the Varimathras plot and it was basically the Putress plot from WoW, but I did it differently in my campaign. I actually did Varimathras pretty bad in Chapter 4 and 5 since you don't get to fight him as a boss fight. Which is why I intend to change this once I do an update to this, and why Phaelynne became the right hand advisor will also be explained better. And I don't think her story was weak. I liked it, but it just needed to be explained a bit better.

 

[X59]

I liked the Varimathras plot and it was basically the Putress plot from WoW, but I did it differently in my campaign. I actually did Varimathras pretty bad in Chapter 4 and 5 since you don't get to fight him as a boss fight. Which is why I intend to change this once I do an update to this, and why Phaelynne became the right hand advisor will also be explained better. And I don't think her story was weak. I liked it, but it just needed to be explained a bit better.

While I saw the elements of the Putress plot (the Wrathgate), I felt that Varimathras took attention away from the Lich King. With that said my view on the Varimathras plot after chapter 5 could of been colored by bias since I liked the Lich King and enjoyed fighting the Scourge. Meanwhile I'm glad to hear that you will update this to reflect why Phaelynne became Sylvanas's right hand and adviser. After all sometimes how well a story line is explained can determine how strong it is. So if you just make that story line more detailed, then I think that it would be stronger.

 

[tomoraider]

While I saw the elements of the Putress plot (the Wrathgate), I felt that Varimathras took attention away from the Lich King. With that said my view on the Varimathras plot after chapter 5 could of been colored by bias since I liked the Lich King and enjoyed fighting the Scourge. Meanwhile I'm glad to hear that you will update this to reflect why Phaelynne became Sylvanas's right hand and adviser. After all sometimes how well a story line is explained can determine how strong it is. So if you just make that story line more detailed, then I think that it would be stronger.

Yeah, I consider the storyline the most important aspect of my campaigns. The storyline in this one is good in my opinion, just needs some better explaining. I'm thinking of maybe making Varimathras a bit of a more subtle enemy during the Northrend part, or something like that, because as you said it takes away the focus from the war with the Lich King.

Actually, when I was going over what could/should be changed in the campaign, I realised it really didn't make much sense as to why did Phaelynne suddenly become a right hand advisor. I think her storyline is pretty much the only part of this story that needs some work, while other just need some polishing.

Also, I'm sorry if I may have come of as harsh in my response before, I wasn't feeling particularly great when I responded.

 

[X59]

Yeah, I consider the storyline the most important aspect of my campaigns. The storyline in this one is good in my opinion, just needs some better explaining. I'm thinking of maybe making Varimathras a bit of a more subtle enemy during the Northrend part, or something like that, because as you said it takes away the focus from the war with the Lich King.

Actually, when I was going over what could/should be changed in the campaign, I realised it really didn't make much sense as to why did Phaelynne suddenly become a right hand advisor. I think her storyline is pretty much the only part of this story that needs some work, while other just need some polishing.

Also, I'm sorry if I may have come of as harsh in my response before, I wasn't feeling particularly great when I responded.

Your forgiven and in all honesty you didn't come off as harsh but more of an author defending their story in a good way. To be more specific, while presenting why you liked it you did admit that things could of been explained better and most importantly you were respectful in your post.

 

[Thechinkeat]

Tomoraider this maybe your best made campaign ever !!! Do you plan made another Forsaken campaign such as Battle of Gilness in the future ? xD

 

[tomoraider]

Tomoraider this maybe your best made campaign ever !!! Do you plan made another Forsaken campaign such as Battle of Gilness in the future ? xD

Thanks, glad you liked it, but I don't have any plans for that.

 

[shenron276]

This campaign is done on a pro level... Good job! I found no major bugs that would make the campaign unplayable. Story is awesome, cinematics and dialogues are on a Blizzard level... 5/5 from me

 

[tomoraider]

This campaign is done on a pro level... Good job! I found no major bugs that would make the campaign unplayable. Story is awesome, cinematics and dialogues are on a Blizzard level... 5/5 from me

Thanks, glad you liked it

 

[cleavinghammer]

Will you make an updated version of this one as well?

 

[tomoraider]

Will you make an updated version of this one as well?

Yeah, but it won't be as big as RotBE's update. But it will still change quite a few things.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Are Darkclaw and Thrall among them?

 

[tomoraider]

Are Darkclaw and Thrall among them?

Yup, their stories will be changed a little.

 

[NelsonLaJe]

.-.
BUG
http://postimg.org/image/b3qvsuqul/

 

[tomoraider]

.-.
BUG
http://postimg.org/image/b3qvsuqul/

Not a bug, you don't have to destroy farms.

Or do you mean the acolyte fixing it? It's because you probably set that he fixes buildings automatically, and during the cinematic I have to make red and blue players allies so that they don't attack each other. So, it's not a bug.

 

[Footman16]

You could make them neutral or the farms invulnerable.

 

[Zeroplague]

An idea

This campaign is good. but I didn't like the end of the campaign while phaelny become lich queen. Why you not make the enchanted version like your other campaign "Rise of blood elf".More great if you use storyline in WOW. Finale chapter Baron became the lich king like in the WOW.