Cruiser Command v0.93g

[onix_noob]

Omg from where i can find mercox merry christmas to all

 

[rover2341]

Many people would consider leaks, or at least their symptoms, to be bugs.

Not to get to off topic but to comment on what you said. Leaks to me are unimportant if in the vast majority of games (99%) are finished before the game has a noticeable slow down after the starts. If there is noticeable slow down, then I could see it being something requiring streamline. But if the game is running how it should besides slowing down a bit I wouldn't personally call it a bug.

 

[M0RT]

Well that's always true, if you have some custom movement systems (like, for example, the guided missiles), which run each 0.05 second or so, lags can become pretty noticable. In one of my first maps (simple flight simulator), leaks caused by the movement (and that was a single location leak every 0.1 second for each player) made the game unplayable after about 10 minutes (that was before I knew there was such thing as leaks )

To topic: I haven't seen a single game of Cruiser command on b.net (northrend) in ages, who is responsible for the GHost and why isn't it running?

 

[Tleno]

Well that's always true, if you have some custom movement systems (like, for example, the guided missiles), which run each 0.05 second or so, lags can become pretty noticable. In one of my first maps (simple flight simulator), leaks caused by the movement (and that was a single location leak every 0.1 second for each player) made the game unplayable after about 10 minutes (that was before I knew there was such thing as leaks )

To topic: I haven't seen a single game of Cruiser command on b.net (northrend) in ages, who is responsible for the GHost and why isn't it running?

I don't see it too, is anyone playing it at Northrend? Yeah, first I didn't knew about leaks too...

 

[onix_noob]

Well i found the mercox but now i found a bug. Some times when a player launch the plane (dunno which one but all of the time is converted to miner) he enter into space and all his controls are disabled. i play from 4-5 days this map and 2 days i was playing with another host and 3 days i was the host. The bug appear the 2 times when i was host and the players were in team 2 both of the times it happen. Hope you can check it and can you please expand the inventory of the robot that refine minerals it will be great because he is slow now

Edit: or you can make it to be little cheaper and with one inventory slot and to have upgrade for it's inventory slots to maximum 5 slots. Also another bug i forgot to mention, i have seen the robot to drop materials in the command center few times and then pick the up back. Note i haven't check if the materials are refined or no but i was team 1 all of the times, it happen 2-4 times for those few days

 

[callex]

I dont know if any of you have read the main page on the melee hack, but it describes the exact problem we've been having with Cruiser Command; causing the ship control and missile loading issues.

Many people who map WC3 probably have noticed how triggers can only execute so much code in one batch before the execution stops whether or not the end of the code was reached. Getting too many operations to run at once will result in WC3 hitting its stack size limit and so prevent any further execution of actions.

I'm just waiting on a buddy to finish his cruiser command music, and then I'll get back to fixing these problems!

 

[Archangel_Tidusx]

I'll be happy to beta test if you would like.
Just send a PM

 

[SasuhKun]

I would beta test too, but you propably already have your own.

 

[callex]

I usually just host publicly, because not all beta testers can be online when you need them ^^

The cruiser command music is finished! Z1pper@Northrend has done a fantastic job, you can listen to his work here: http://soundcloud.com/rainsurfer/sets/cc. Once my monday exam is out of the way, I'll get to work implementing the music and fixing these spawn issues.

 

[Ijon Tichy]

Great map! (Some ideas are from EVE Online, I'm right?)

I played alone but I have found something: when I was collecting ore from asteroids, I filled up the ship's cargo, but mining laser was still "damageing" asteroid. Is there is option "cancel / break collecting"?

And, ofc, I will gladly help in tests!

 

[SasuhKun]

That soundtrack is terrific.

Edit: It makes me feel strange. Also really brings that Star-Trek classic theme. No battle theme? D:

 

[callex]

Well, Zipper said he wasn't sure about it, but if there's a demand for a battle-theme I'm sure he'd be more than happy to cook one up!

 

[Cpt.ZnacK]

I Still Lovez This Map! =D...
We had a Mass Lan at our school...We played this a bit...It was EPIC

 

[Riptokus]

Great map! (Some ideas are from EVE Online, I'm right?)

I played alone but I have found something: when I was collecting ore from asteroids, I filled up the ship's cargo, but mining laser was still "damageing" asteroid. Is there is option "cancel / break collecting"?

And, ofc, I will gladly help in tests!

Accelerate or use the mining laser again. Both will cancel the mining.

I like the map, Usually I play with Fealorin's Bot. Looking forward to the update.

 

[callex]

Hmm, I guess it's about time I checked in and explained what I've been doing for the past three weeks or so; the music etc is in, it's really just the AI optimisation that needs doing. Some early experiments with different AI methods have turned into a mini-project of sorts however.
Sorry about the wait, but I'm still working away in the background here ^^

 

[Tleno]

Hey, so what about changing vessel's accelerate/deaccelerate with stop/max speed? I mean vessels don't need that movement precision as cruiser and it annoys to press the accelerate button lots of times to recieve the max speed.

 

[bureaulamp]

Suggestion:

Maybe you could add a possibility to board to add more diversity to the gameplay and strategy elements in the map.

The crew will respectively be able to build defence turrets and also items to sabotage the other cruiser.

If this were to be added there may need to be a thing to revive players since they might die, unless you use player controlled drones but then the defending crew might die too easy.

 

[SasuhKun]

problem of boarding: permanent death. Unless at that time robots or clones could be built. Then it would be ok.

 

[bureaulamp]

Yes, permanent death is indeed kind of a big issue.
It is already annoying without boarding because the noobs die to fire when they are controlling the cruiser lol

 

[Tleno]

Yes, and there is also a big problem that when all pilots or engineers die, you have to surrender since you can't do anything without item making/ generator controling or piloting the vessels or cruiser. So I'm asking you, can you replace the player class allowing to use something to giving bonus to it? You know, controled by you ship moves faster, engineering is more effective etc.

 

[Riptokus]

It'd be nice to have a trigger that checks for the presence of all the pilots/engineers, but I don't mind the permanent death. It adds another element to the game. If boarding is added, then some kind of internal security would be necessary.

 

[Ijon Tichy]

After some plays with non noob crew, I can write some points/ ideas:
- yamato is IMBA! It should be nerfed- I suggest a cooldown and/or energy cost.
- maybe add an upgrade for bettlecruiser to increase amount of energy in capacitor?
- once I was fireing proximity bombs (or something) by fighter and I almost kill myself: the bomb showed up behind me- speed of missiles should be "additive": if fighter (or battlecruiser) fires a missile it's speed should be equal to ship speed + missile starting speed.

 

[callex]

I've just released my mini-project, Natural Selection, if anyone is interested ^^. I'll hopefully have time to fix some of these issues now!

 

[vAnKaTa_G.G.]

One of my personal favorites!!! I first tried the map a month ago. I really liked it and now I play it almost every day. I think this map will have a great success in future!

 

[dls]

very very good map .. i like it, but i don´t have players on this map .. If can anybody play with me, write me icq 207100715 or in garena nickname "ales.." .... i have team with 4 meybe 5 players

 

[Lord of Shadow]

Cruiser Command Advanced

I had e-mailed Callex about some what I think to be great ideas for future versions, I was reading here and saw that some of those ideas were already mentioned by other users. I am actually here in this forum now because I had also asked callex for a website where I can keep myself informed of any updates related to Cruiser command. I seriously love the concept of this game, the all crew having to work together to achieve the best strategy to defeat the opposite team.


1- Invisibility
It would be interesting if the cruiser could become invisible. The cruiser would use up energy from the generator for this function and it would be unable to move.
Small Ships cannot go invisible.

And the Crew can also go invisible, you probably asking why? You will understand now.

In this case a new table would be created, the Radar. a player that engages the radar time will have an angle camera with limited range that always points to the region in front of the ship. In this view mode the player can see any invisible unit withint the range of view of the "radar".

The crew can research invisibility glasses, when activated it looks like night vision of NOTD (all greenish, but other colours could be chosen). In this view mode they are able to see any invisible spy within the mothership.

Upgrades: Energy efficiency of invisibility for the ship, Invisible time for crew, Invisibility glasses cool-down.

2- Invading
Here I offer many different ideas for how to invade the enemy:
-Spy ship, a very small, fragile and fast ship. May have the ability to go invisible for a very short period of time. This ship can be used to Dock into an enemy cruiser, here you have many ways to do it, the ship could physically show up there like the miners and fighters or it could simply teleport the player to inside the ship and the player to return to the ship would need to return to the same area where he appeared before to be teleported back, a colourful circle will mark the area, this circle is visiable to all players. (indeed the spy is a pilot)

Inside the ship the player can do many things. If the spy has engineer qualification, it can hack into the generator controls or the engineer control and modify power usage or steal missiles and resources. In this case resources of course must be able to outtake from the Cruiser. To hack into the enemy's computer it would require some time, the access is not instant like when you access your own mothership's computer, and also you cannot hack being invisible.

The spy can also attack units, and permanently kill it, as it can also be permanently killed during the operation. If the fight is melee or with weapons that is really not important, I believe simply melee fight would be better for start.

Now this comes a bit from Star-Trek ( for me you could call this game star trek lol) If your cruiser is invisible and the enemy cruiser is within your screen, you can teleport 1 unit to their ship, and this unit can only come back in case the cruiser still within range, the returning is done remotely by somebody in the cruiser. The player cannot self teleport back to its own cruiser.

Upgrades: Hacking time/unit fighting powers/ unit armor.

3- Robots
The spaceship could be a little larger, this would also prevent the problem with the robots that keep getting stuck if over 3.

The refining robots in the 0.7v are great, but maybe they should have a building time, otherwise its so quick to have them. Same thing for the Auto Ammo re-loaders.
Also Robots for defence inside the Cruiser in case a spy comes. The robots would not stand still and they would follow a patrol pathway around the ship. Their fighting capabilities are much better than crew, and they could also somehow alert the ship of the spy. Building them is demands high amounts of minerals, specially Merc and a lot of time to get one done. The only bad thing about them is their speed, they move very slow so that the spy has a chance to infiltrate the base. This robot would require an upgrade to be able to see invisible spies. Another option for this robot is instead of being an attack robot it could only be a sentinel that has better speed, no dmg, and naturally can detect invisible units.

A limit of these robots should be input in order to make the game balanced.

4- Towers
The Cruiser or the Fighter would be able to build tower stations, these Tower stations are costy and time expensive. The Towers are able to attack heavy missiles and they have quite high HP. They cannot recover HP and their attack rate is slow. They can also detect invisible cruisers if upgraded.

5-Mining Complex
With the cost required for all these new elements of the game and the need of the crew more concentrated in its war duties, it is hard to maintain miners out there in fragile vessels looking for rocks.


6-Anti spy system

Apart from the lights to see invisible units, the captain should be able to close specific doors. Also There could be Security Robots to be constructed, like any other robot there, but these would maintain a patroling movement and they would be able to see invisible without any help if upgraded.

I've also thought of things such as, Fixed towers around the map, stronger weapons(much more expensive), and stronger fighting vessels( required to be built).

Of course this would require that the size of the Cruiser increases, but I just think it would make an even more amazing game!!!


I recently had another idea: One thing that gets boring in the game is when the two cruisers run out of ammo, their shield is off and the only thing they do is hammering onto each other. I really believe there should be a non resources based kinda of "skill" which could be used to paralyze the other ship and provide a escape, it could be some sort of teleport like I mentioned before or invisibility... stunning... extra speed... or something like... use up all energy in the generator in order to teleport your ship away and cut the energy of the enemy for 5 seconds, of course a minimum energy stored would be required.

 

[crappypappy]

happy

lol this may sound weak/pathetic but i almost started crying when i saw natural slection was made by u thought u were done making this map

 

[Tleno]

Hmmm... guys do you ignore my suggestion to change those specializations like pilot or engineer so they would give you a bonus, but would not be required to use some of the objects... its really annoying when you don't have one of the specialization having players, so I recommend to get rid or change the system...

 

[Daveydude]

On the Bored Aussie server the MGL league has started up with cruiser command as map involved. Could I ask that the mining vessel getting stuck is fixed, proximity mines from fighters fixed, and the armourment droid fixed. That is all =D

 

[Etzer]

Lol, Mod review = Epic ("Seems like you have alot of free time") ;P

 

[ZKAmedic]

played something similar to this,i liked that and found i also like this good gaming 3/5

 

[Koloricsi]

lol, only 3/5, are u crazy? this game is like 7/5 all praise callex

 

[rover2341]

I treid playing this with my friends, and they arent big fans. But Its got a very unique style of game play. Its great. I just wish there would have been another update by now.

 

[robdrak]

Great map! But you can do some repair ability to remove rocks in damaged cruiser.

 

[Archangel_Tidusx]

Great map! But you can do some repair ability to remove rocks in damaged cruiser.

Repair matricies.

 

[Hunter9G]

Great map! But you can do some repair ability to remove rocks in damaged cruiser.

yea what archangel said. it right inside your engineering section. though maybe a free one should be auto given to both engineers.

 

[ZiggyMcjoney]

Fantastic map, a bit hard to play with a small crew though.

With only two cruisers however, occupying such a large space can prove a bit irritating when you're trying to hunt down your opponent.

Maybe add options for a smaller map size if you want a faster paced battle?

Either way, it's really well made. I really like this one, can't find any main faults in it. 4/5 from me!

Is there a way to clear rubble/put out fires from your ship? We couldn't get to our constructor because it was blocked by rubble, so we couldn't fire missiles to kill the opponent because they were all behind a wall of mashed spaceship.

 

[masterofra]

... READ THE DANG POSTS BEFORE ASKING A QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN ANSWERED MANY TIMES...

Anyway, You build repair matrixes from the constructor, and drop them around the ship, when the ship takes damage, pick them up, and use them on the rubble/fires. that will fix them.

 

[Hunter9G]

If you want ot play the game well you must always plan ahead. never just make the matrixes when you need them. make thme spread around the ship so that it is easier to use them once you get a bunch of rocks stuck in one place.

 

[Koloricsi]

I played this a long time ago, i cant find a good crew. Especially at the bot host in northrend(europe)

 

[Archangel_Tidusx]

Ive hosted and played this 9 times and won every single time. only knew 1-2 people in my crew and stiill owned lol.

 

[Hugomath]

I played 6 times and lost 1[they had a spy in my ship!!] But only with 3 players in each team ''/,so yeah it's hard to find any1 that plays it but is still very nice to "Roleplay" in this map =D. Also when are you gonna release the next version and what will be the new stuff? I'm curious =D

 

[callex]

Well all, the time has come for me to take flight to the galaxy editor, sorry I never got around to fixing those issues. I've uploaded my unprotected versions here for people to learn from/use as they see fit

Among the unprotecteds is the unreleased CC with music! I've lost the musician's wc3 name, but you can visit his soundcloud page here.

 

[Hunter9G]

Well Callex we will miss your awsome games.

'Till we buy SC2

 

[sephiroth1234]

Could you add an AI system to this map? I think this will be fun with playing AIs..... Apart from that your map is good, fun, and has a very unique gameplay!


I approve 5/5!

 

[M0RT]

Will you make a new version of CC in SC2? It seems to fit starcraft better and I have noticed only a single map that is taking place in space, Alien (I have been searching for such maps, as I am also developing an space-themed map), so there is a great opportunity for a more advanced version of cruiser command.

 

[Undead_Legionaire]

Is this a bug <<<<< How can I activate Mining Module I buy it then I press F1 and didn't see any structures or anything collecting minerals?

 

[Cicija16]

Dude this map is awesome, it would be Godlike if you can add planets, field battle, buying new ship(main and little), add some races(humans, orcs, androids).I have a tons of idea for that map add me if u want to hear some=) That would be awesome if u do that.

 

[Koloricsi]

Ur kinda late, callex is experimenting with galaxy editor, this will probably only updated in SC2

 

[TKF]

Is there any bugs in this version? I have played some versions and couldn't find any bugs of major importance. Anyway I wonder what the SC2 editor has to offer as I don't have a beta key.