Contest: Icon Set for Gaias Retaliation Stats

[Zwiebelchen]

As I always felt that the Hero stat skills of Gaias Retaliation could deserve their own icons, I decided to make a small contest out of this.

Price:
The winner will be mentioned in the loading screen of the upcoming 1.1m version as Special Thanks person.
Also, the winner gains access to the exclusive closed beta tests of the upcoming 1.1m, 1.1n and 1.2 versions.

What do I have to do?
It's simple: Create custom stat 'skill' buttons for Gaias Retaliation. The Stats should be known, but to go sure, here's a list:

Strength
Intelligence
Agility
Wisdom
Constitution

You can find an extensive tutorial on creating icons here:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...complete-icon-tutorial-all-about-icons-37832/


Rules:

To allow me and others to have a quick look on your created icons, please post a quick picture with all of your icons together and put it into the attachments of your post.

Please notice that due to the copyright laws, I can not accept links or stuff that was created by other people. Your submissions must be self-made (which does not mean that the actual picture on your icons must be yours)!


Also, try to keep the same style of graphics for all of the icons. The better they match each other, the more likely it is for me to implement those icons into the game.

 

[Justicebringer]

Wow, this is interesting! When is the deadline?

 

[_lycan]

sounds nice, too bad i'm not an artist

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Wow, this is interesting! When is the deadline?

There is no deadline so far. It kinda works like "first come first serve", which means as soon as I get something that I feel looks appropriate, I will close this threat within one week.

 

[_lycan]

Even tho i know they suck and are simple edits i decided to at least try , Download link

and here are the btn icons (i didn't know what type were needed so i made all disbtn, pas, etc.):

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Even tho i know they suck and are simple edits i decided to at least try , Download link

and here are the btn icons (i didn't know what type were needed so i made all disbtn, pas, etc.):

Wow, first contribution. Might wanna tell us something about your ideas, especially why you chose this particular colors and which is which, etc.?

 

[_lycan]

Well actually they are very basic, intelligence is the blue one which has lot of blue sphere's reminding of water gloves, red one is strength, has some scarfs like from a gladiator, green is agility has kind of adrenaline surrounding it, constitution, well this stat i was confused what to do with the consitution concept so, since it's a sinonym of being healthy i decided to use the Yellow + with a windy effect, the wisdom one well since gaias is based in some kind of alternate past where mages and priests are the high class, i decided to use white one because mages and priests (with the exception of necromancers) use white magic, also sinonym of pureness).


anyways they are actually the obvious colors for the stats that were going to be used.

(also in the icon names it says what stat are every icon for)

 

[Jumbo]

I think the green one could easily be confused with constitution. Maybe give constitution icon some kind of "vitality" to it. I don't know how exactly though.. Otherwise looks good

 

[Vestra]

I like the strength one darkly, and your theme behind the wisdom one. Not so sure on the others, I don't find the colours appealing I guess. Pretty cool though!

 

[lNVlNClBLE]

Not bad Darkly. The intelligence one I'm not too fond of - it looks pretty confusing and hard to see.

 

[Tsumo]

Habe mal ein paar Icons aus Heroes of might&magic4 bearbeitet.
Falls Interesse bescheid geben...BLP und Rahmen müßte jemand anderes machen.
Die Bilder sind auch als PNG etc. bei mir gespeichert.
Können auch noch nachgeschärft werden.

Strenght

Agility

Constitution

Intelligence

Wisdom

Grüße olle Zwiebel

 

[Vestra]

lolol heroes of might and magic icons, awesome.
It would be better if gaias didn't use images from other games though imo

 

[Zwiebelchen]

I like the HoMM symbols, but they don't really fit into the icons, I think. Also, I feel it would not be cool to import stuff from other games into Gaias when its so easy to make custom icons.

 

[Tsumo]

If is so easy do it

 

[Hawajska]

If is so easy do it

If it it was said not to copy... than don't!

 

[Ihazdialup]

I do like darkly's icons, but im not too fond of the coors, maybe a more baby blue for intell, and more meadow green or w/e for the agil.

 

[viktorship94]

Even tho i know they suck and are simple edits i decided to at least try , Download link

and here are the btn icons (i didn't know what type were needed so i made all disbtn, pas, etc.):

Very Nice
I like it and also loved the "stories" behind each one ^^

 

[Justicebringer]

Good ones.I hope i can upload my pack
tomorrow.

 

[Tsumo]

If it it was said not to copy... than don't!

Its not copy...its edited idiot

 

[Hawajska]

Its not copy...its edited idiot

cuted for sure, not edited derp go to hell derp

and by not copy Z wanted peoples to make oryginal icons not "copy" in this case templete was copied from HoM&M IV.
I hope u'r not too stupid to understeand it.

 

[Vestra]

heroes 4 was easily the worst game in the series

 

[Hawajska]

I still hear soundtrack from heroes II^^

 

[AllR]

Hi, Zwieb. Here's my icon pack, although its not complete. e.g. 'disabled ones'. I'll try to get your interest, since, I want to win the 'price' for my own personal reasons of course. I'm really a big fan of yours, your map is so awesome! btw Happy New Year! >

 

[Vestra]

They're lovely icons but I'm not fond of any of those, for gaias anyway. They don't seem to really fit the lore or the gameplay.

 

[Ihazdialup]

Be perfect and I mean PERFECT for items, but not so much for the stats

 

[Vestra]

True that, but when items start looking TOO fancy, rpgs start to look tacky

 

[AllR]

Can't be help . Well, I agree to your opinions that importing these icons in GR, makes a feeling that 'this and that' are 'op'. But I'll try to improvise the icons. I'll post more when Zwieb conduct a review on my work. Really need suggestions

 

[Justicebringer]

Ah.

I have made only the agi and int icons. I dont no
if it fits to gaias or not.(i made them in haste so need to
fix a few thing)
If you like them a bit ill
continue the other attributes.

 

[GIMLI_2]

they look good

i wanna see the others!

 

[AllR]

Hello, folks. This is my new updated basic hero stat icons. I really want to make Gaias Retaliation hero stats more user-friendly, this will make the icons fool-proof. Opposed to my first work, this basic ones I think will be more welcomed in GR. Please, take your time to review my work, here it is. Suggestions are always welcome!

Edit: I have problems in converting .TGA to .BLP (All images are vertically reversed when converted to .BLP format) sorry for the incompetency, if anyone knows how-to-solve-this. Kindly, post in this thread.

/I'm using Warcraft3Viewer/

Notice: I managed to resolve this by converting .TGA to .BMP format then .BMP to .BLP, I hope you found this tip helpful.

 

[Jumbo]

The simple but consistent style is actually pretty neat. I like it AllR.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

@Justicebringer:
Nice job making icons from scratch. But I think they look a little bit sketchy. Maybe try to add some shading or 3d effects to them?

@AllR:
I like the consistent style, but I feel they look too simple, especially the text on them. The idea of using scrolls as a basis is good, however, why not add symbols instead of text to them?

 

[Jumbo]

@Zwei his point was to make it fool-proof i think

 

[AllR]

@Jumbo Yes, Jumbo your correct and thank you for the feedback.

@Zwieb First Zwieb, my real objective is to fool-proof the hero-stats, I've notice that some players whom I played with, accidentally click wrong buttons for stats, eventually their build is destroyed and have to reset which is too costly for starting players, which one of the reasons they quit. I believe this is a great implementation for Gaias, for the benefit of un-experienced players who wants to fully enjoy your map like me. For me simplicity is at its best, since they are just hero-stats, the player must feel that hero-stats is 'basic' and inferior to other essential skills that is part of vital-gameplay (which must be always superior to). I can change the concept of 'text' to 'symbols' but it will make the icons less fool-proof.

Story: I've been always recruiting potential players, and I've been challenged a countless times to make a loyal player of Gaias, while, cheating is a taboo for us, we never cheat, and we expel cheaters. We played your game sincerely. That's why we are looking forward to your updates. To make a game with a soul is an extraordinary feat, that's why I'm making efforts here and now.

Edit: Actually, it will not hurt to try, let's implement it and get some feedback from players. If they don't like the implementation, then improve it more, hence, we must always keep the balance of all things.

Note: If my icon pack will make it on 1.1m, please do special mention our group 'ACTIVE RPG-er GUID: 111966' thanks.

 

[Jumbo]

Zwei, think about the good old Baldurs Gate character stats UI. It had every stat spelled out STRENGTH, CONSTITUTION, CHARISMA, etc. so why not the same in Gaias? Of course this is an abbreviation in Gaias because of the icons, but still i think it fits very well.

 

[Vestra]

AllR, I don't think making them TOO full proof is the answer, but your use of colours is intriguing. Maybe a darker red for con, but use either the scrolls, or another shape, without text, so the stats remain the same icon, but with different emphasis on their colours, maybe an image on each scroll, such as a fist on strength, similar to the current WC3 stat icons, but make your own for wisdom and constitution?

Overall, people quitting games for simple mistakes isn't a reason to make them fool proof. If people aren't willing to read the stats carefully that's really their own fault in the process.

However, maybe giving the player a scroll that allows them one free stat restat would be a good option, so players have one chance to mess up if they're starting gaias for the first time.

 

[AllR]

@Vestra Your second statement is true enough. Well, I like your idea on your third statement, but isn't too much consideration for the players? Gaias gameplay is simple, however, I pursue my theme on hero-stat to prevent misclicks on stats, since, they are duplicated textures. Also, I realize that there is -repick and -load command, but due to that were simply avoiding repetition of gameplay, and you know what repetition feels like. What I'm stressing here is the simplicity of the icons that makes it 'Failure To Recognize Is Not an Option', I know symbols are meant for different languages, its usage is to communicate easily to other languages by texturized gestures like fist of 'strength' which is obvious.

Is this the one you are looking forward to? I might make more of this but in the case of Gaias it will not fit (correct me if I'm wrong), as Gaias theme and icon art is different with this one. If Zwieb will allow me, I can make more of this, and will implement in the future.

For now, I'll do rethink Zwieb idea and of course your 'first statement' suggestion. Thanks.

Icons

Wing (Agility)
Aegis (Constitution)
Fist (Strength)
Wand (Intelligence)
Cobra (Wisdom)

 

[Vestra]

I do like that one, it has a nice feel to it but I suggest you add the colours as I find they work well with keeping things universal for various cultures, i.e red for strength, green for agility, blue for intelligence. Those colours seem to have been used repeatedly. Really, considering the colours of mana and health I'd say green for Constitution and a light blue for Mana - both similar, if not exactly the same colour as the text used for the numbers in the hero display box. Then, the others are up to you, but I'd say red for strength, yellow for agility and purple or dark blue fro intelligence.

The problem with that image there is the fingers, it looks as though there are 5 folded in with one on the side, might want to make it four folded downwards!

Other than that, wonderful ideas AllR, I'm sure Zwieb will have something positive to say about the work you're putting in as much as I like your beautiful efforts in the end it comes down to him

Perhaps do a combination of the ideas? For example, a red Fist on a scroll for strength, a yellow 'Boot' for agility, and maybe something like a blue Eye for wisdom or make use of a green Cross for constitution. Having small detailed symbols on a nice white scroll might look appealing?

 

[AllR]

@Vestra Oh, reallly thank you for the kind words, but I'm intrigued why red is universal for strength, really I do like orange for strength stat, it dictates chaos and power, but you know we really have diff. preferences. I'd say a careful poll of colors is a must.

In Diablo I and Diablo II, the health bar is 'Red' while the mana bar is 'Blue' meaning, constitution is Red and wisdom is Blue, I know I know the theme of Diablo and Gaias are unique to each other, and Gaias must be unique in different ways, I like your way of thinking. I really like to change Intelligence to 'White' seems magic is pure in the mind of every mages. Hmm.. 'Yellow' for agility? I think the famous color for agility is 'Green', as I'd see for most games especially for DotA they use green for agility for most items. And I feel that green suits Agility, which is a different story for Gaias.

Yes, it will look good on scrolls, but much detailed like what I've posted today, I'd say not. It must be a different concept of art, like foot prints on the sand. The icon fist of 'Strength' for example are leveled on the main texture of scroll.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

@Vestra Your second statement is true enough. Well, I like your idea on your third statement, but isn't too much consideration for the players? Gaias gameplay is simple, however, I pursue my theme on hero-stat to prevent misclicks on stats, since, they are duplicated textures. Also, I realize that there is -repick and -load command, but due to that were simply avoiding repetition of gameplay, and you know what repetition feels like. What I'm stressing here is the simplicity of the icons that makes it 'Failure To Recognize Is Not an Option', I know symbols are meant for different languages, its usage is to communicate easily to other languages by texturized gestures like fist of 'strength' which is obvious.

Is this the one you are looking forward to? I might make more of this but in the case of Gaias it will not fit (correct me if I'm wrong), as Gaias theme and icon art is different with this one. If Zwieb will allow me, I can make more of this, and will implement in the future.

For now, I'll do rethink Zwieb idea and of course your 'first statement' suggestion. Thanks.

Edit: Don't mind the extra finger

THIS is exactly what I am looking for! Can you make icons for the other stats in the exact same style with different symbols on it? If you do, I will definitely implement those. I like the stone and rubble style. I'd say keep them in the same style to make it look more consistent. Colors would hurt in this special case, I think.

 

[AllR]

@Zwieb I can do that Zwieb Do we have a deadline? Do strength icon still need revisions? I'll work on what you requested. As soon as I've finished one of them, I'll update my post.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

@Zwieb I can do that Zwieb Do we have a deadline? Do strength icon still need revisions? I'll work on what you requested. As soon as I've finished one of them, I'll update my post.

Hmm, if you remove the additional finger on the strength icon, it's good to go.
And no, there's no deadline so far.

 

[AllR]

@Zwieb Please take a look at my work, just scroll up. I need your suggestions regarding Agility, Wisdom, and Constitution icon.

 

[Vestra]

Is that a dragon on agility? I can't really see that or wisdom very clearly, the constitution one is very nice though.

 

[AllR]

@Vestra Yes, its a sea dragon (agility). And the pyramid eye (wisdom).

Edit: So those two stats are the culprits. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll revise their textures soon.

 

[Vestra]

Maybe make the eye a little clearer and find an image more closely associated with agility. As nice as Sea Dragons are, I'm not sure they're associated with the attribute, or any gaias lore.

 

[AllR]

@Vestra Really? Where can I find these lores you mention? I wanna read it. I might find more new ideas and concepts base on Agility stat.

Side note: It might be cool if its lizard instead of dragon? Whaddya think?

 

[Vestra]

Well where have you seen anything about lizards and agility? I personally don't see the 2 working too well together. Lizards are fast, yes, but I believe Dragons and lizards are often associated with intelligence and wisdom, the latter being a familiar.

For agility, consider speed, evasion, what the stat has to offer to a player. Look at the classes that benefit from it, a hunter, an assassin, what do they share in common, and what could upcoming classes share in common, that could be represented on an icon - and icon both representing the stat, and the idea of agility classes as a whole.

 

[AllR]

@Vestra I thought about it now, and I think its the word 'Track and Stealth', I could represent it to an image but it takes a matter of time to do it. So just to make sure, I'll need to rest, since, its now very late in here. GtG!

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Iagree with the other comments. The shield for constitution is nice. The eye for wisdom is also a great idea (though it could be a little brighter so that its easier to be seen).
The dragon for agility? Mhh... I think something like boots or wings would be more suitable here.

Other than that I really like your work. Looks very good and I like the consistant art style. I'm definitely going to use those when they are done.