Conquest of Northrend

[Moderator]

22:53, 16th Mar 2014
Orcnet: Good additions to the altered melee genres, approved and recommend as acceptable.

 

[Etzer]

Oh my god the filesize!

 

[Shadow.Storm]

the map doesn't even look like stormwind.

 

[Tleno]

Etzer, the filesize is still good enough... but seriously, what did you put in it so it's so big?!

And I'm happy to see Storwind map too... what's next in your maplist?

 

[SpankyDmonkey]

How exactly do you get into stormwind?

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

All factions have air-transports. Use them to get in then find the nearest levers to open the gate.

 

[RouGe_WiZaRD]

WOO HOO: i'll try this map next saturday.
AW: tommorow's monday again so i can't do anything with computers.

 

[greenfate]

Its really weird to see marine on stormwind, furthermore their attack are way too high.

 

[The_wand_mirror]

AW: tommorow's monday again so i can't do anything with computers.

That made sense.

Custom music? imports overkill much?

 

[rafaelrq]

Why don't you create a pack for these maps Uji? It would be better i think.

 

[takakenji]

Why don't you create a pack for these maps Uji? It would be better i think.

they need to be approved first

 

[GONZALORD]

I can't play it on lan cause the filesize is too big to the game limits!!!

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

To those who can't play it on LAN, have you upgrade your version lately?

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

As for the pack, you would look like after seeing the total size of all my maps even if I haven't added I*******e yet!

 

[pasqual]

i love your're maps!

 

[Moderator]

12:52, 8th Apr 2014
Orcnet: Approved as acceptable.

 

[light bolt30]

Use these BB Codes to help you improve the description, add some screenshots. Also an altered melee map at 7.54mb?! That shouldn't be right.

 

[Ironside]

I will agree with the above poster, for this reason I will vote for Needs Fix.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Barathrum, this doesn't need "needs fix", since it does contain the needed information, and the BB codes are only there to improve the look.

Edit :

As a member of the group Map Reviewers, I will be reviewing your map :

[+] Terrain [+]
[+] Originality [+]
[+] Fun [+]
[-] Some empty spots [+]
[-] Large File Size [-]
[-] Mines are not well placed [-]

I suggest you remove the preview image and the loading screen to reduce the file size.

Rating : 2/5
Status : Approval

 

[Vengeancekael]

As a member of the group Map Reviewers, I will be reviewing your map :

[+] Nice layout [+]
[+] Originality [+]
[+] Fun [+]
[-] Some flat spots [+]
[-] Large File Size [-]
[-] Mines are not well placed [-]

I suggest you remove the preview image and the loading screen to reduce the file size.

Rating : 2/5
Status : Approval

EDIT : Nevermind, rejection [Kl3sk is right]

 

[Ironside]

I do not agree completely, since without good description, map breaks the rules.

And his description is not on a grade that could be called minimal standard.

 

[Vengeancekael]

It is a good description it just doesn't have a good "look", you should blame the upload page which doesn't have Bold, Italic, color, etc. buttons.
Again, this map can be approved in its current state, the description can be improved later to look "better".

 

[Ironside]

Very well, I just PM the map to the moderator, he can decide.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Nevermind, rejection [Kl3sk is right].

 

[Ironside]

Alright then, I contacted moderator anyway, he'll do what he'll think is best.

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

I will work on the description ASAP. By the way, I can trim the file size by 1000kb but some Heroes will lose their Hero glows and the corrupted tree of life & ancient of war will have "ugly" attack animation while rooted. Is that ok?

 

[Ironside]

Don't double post, also ye description needs fixing, also I think it's a good idea to lose 1000 KB

 

[Kl3sk]

I will work on the description ASAP. By the way, I can trim the file size by 1000kb but some Heroes will lose their Hero glows and the corrupted tree of life & ancient of war will have "ugly" attack animation while uprooted. Is that ok?

~ Dear -Battle for Supremacy- author, Kael , Barathrum and lightbolt30 have all expressed their (somewhat contradictory) opinions, but I feel it is my duty as to make you understand why Kael suddenly changes his mind over the mater of approving / rejecting your map(s). Without further adieu :

I do not agree with Kael over the "approved" stamp to ANY of the Battle For Supremacy maps. None! If necessary, I may sound like a hypocrite when saying I tested only "Alterac Ruins" from the series and it was a completed and total let-down. What the author does is he just uploads the maps with incredible, misleading preview-images and tempts members to download them. In reality, none of these maps should be approved. As far as I'm concerned, Kael and any of our reviewers can give as much constructive criticism as they want, but I know one thing : Misleading Preview-Image (that adds to the file-size unjustified) + Timid Description + Terrible Terrain AND poor, unoriginal game-play =/= success.

* You will find this post on ap0calypse's profile. I hope this prevents future confusion or misunderstandings regarding all your BFS maps. You could say I'm being brutally honest with you. As advice : Stop uploading poor quality maps on the Hive. As a suggestion : Don't continue the BFS series and try creating REAL maps of your own (I'm not saying you didn't invest time and effort , I'm just saying that time and effort could have been used more wisely, as far as map-making goes).

~ To end this post : You've just double-posted.... Good day!

 

[Vengeancekael]

No hard feelings, I'm sure if you work on it a little bit more then you could upload it again

 

[Ironside]

Information:


As a Reviewer of the Map Reviewers Group, I joined the THW Cleaning Event.
I end up writing a fast review, or just posting the end state of the map, rating is not always included!


Current State for this map: Rejected


I will contact the moderator to Approve/Reject the map, depending on what you recieved.

 

[Moderator]

Orcnet

19:34, 14th May 2013

Comment

Review

Map Approved

Conquest of Northrend: Valiance Keep (No Version/s Stated) Rate Score Percent Letter 5/5 91-100 A Rate Score Percent Letter 4/5 81-90% B Rate Score Percent Letter 3/5 75-80% C Rate Score Percent Letter 2/5 70-74% D Rate Score Percent Letter 1/5 50-69% F Overview: Gameplay "Conquest of Northrend: Valiance Keep" is a Altered Melee game based on the story line of World of Warcraft's Wrath of the Lich King expansion where you take on a city named 'Valiance Keep' with the used of neutral creeps that were remade as a full grown race. "The Gameplay is very good and same goes to the remade of all of the default races into the inhabitants of the northrend area, no much problems and bug encountered during the tests of the races and all and useful AI as well." Terrain "The Terrain looks neat especially the middle part that is so called the 'Valiance Keep' although the wandering villagers can be problematic though." Management "Any else map is somewhat useful and very well detailed for another altered melee map for those who are daring to, this is another submission to be played." Total Score: Rate Score Percent Letter 11/15 87% B

 

[Forsaken]

7.99 MB lol
hey i really have like this Altered Melee, but i find a bug, the hero pyromancer can be summon more then 1 time . just this that i have find

nice map

 

[letgoit3]

THIS is awesome but ONE thing i hate that you didnt use the custom foots of dwarfes there 2 models a normal model and a mountain scouter , so pls fix the foot pls do it it will be better rating 7.5 (because footman of dwarfes)

LG Letgoit3

 

[Orcnet]

map approved see further details

 

[Davion24]

Another Series of altered melee. Loved your past maps. Little sad that there will be only one RIO. Keep it up

 

[Footman16]

This is great map that I would recommend to anyone who is a fun of custom races and lore. One question though what happened to your stromgarde keep map I can't find it here in the maps section.

I know I can download it from any of your maps just I can't find it on the hive.

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

This is great map that I would recommend to anyone who is a fun of custom races and lore. One question though what happened to your stromgarde keep map I can't find it here in the maps section.

I know I can download it from any of your maps just I can't find it on the hive.

I already have a lot of SfA maps and because the Stromgarde Keep one is just a map made by Blizzard, I didn't bother uploading it officially.

 

[Even]

Well, the only thing regrettable for the Nerubians is the jormungar model... Why not create it from a resized (and reskinned) dune worm? (well, if that's possible... this is just my two cents)

Btw, I think I found a bug with the Faceless One Harbinger (and perhaps with other heroes as well, haven't tried it): it can't level up beyond level 5 (once it reaches level 5, no XP is gained

 

[cleavinghammer]

The Town Hall doesn't have the Call to Arms ability.
Headhunter Spirits need Cannibalize researched.
The Crypt Flyer's second attack doesn't show up on its card when researched.
T3 Chitinous naga upgrades require a corrupted Tree of Ages.

Nice map (though rather lacking in snow), but I think there aren't enough creep camps.

 

[Sverkerman]

What you really should make is a campaign out of the races which you have created.

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

Btw, I think I found a bug with the Faceless One Harbinger (and perhaps with other heroes as well, haven't tried it): it can't level up beyond level 5 (once it reaches level 5, no XP is gained

Were you trying to level up killing creeps? Heroes can't level up beyond 5 killing creeps.

The Town Hall doesn't have the Call to Arms ability.
Headhunter Spirits need Cannibalize researched.
The Crypt Flyer's second attack doesn't show up on its card when researched.
T3 Chitinous naga upgrades require a corrupted Tree of Ages.

Only the starting Town Hall has Call to Arms. You'll have to upgrade to at least Keep for new ones. Others have already been fixed.

 

[Even]

Btw, I think I found a bug with the Faceless One Harbinger (and perhaps with other heroes as well, haven't tried it): it can't level up beyond level 5 (once it reaches level 5, no XP is gained

Were you trying to level up killing creeps? Heroes can't level up beyond 5 killing creeps.

Hmmmm... So you need to kill enemy units? Never knew that.. Thanks for your info, and sorry for the accusations xD

Also, about the thing I told you that you can create a jormungar by just editing the skin of the dune worm... Actually, it seems that without an extensive model edit, it's impossible to create a jormungar out of the dune worm (their model was just too different)

 

[cleavinghammer]

Possible AI bug: the Naga never seem to bother looking for creeps at all, only moving out of their base when they have a full attack force. Which leads to them steamrolling other armies with three level 1 heroes.

 

[takakenji]

u should upload ur northrend building icons

 

[Edge45]

Did you make the Tuskarr warlock (or shaman)

 

[Legal_Ease]

Good looking map! Great UI. I like to concept and the additional shop-type units you made. I will have to download it when I get home. +2 rep.

 

[I_am_Death]

7,96MB is that too heavy for a melee map ?

 

[Moderator]

Orcnet

08:56, 21th July 2013

Comment

Review

Map Approved

CoN: Wintergarde Keep (No Version/s Stated) Rate Score Percent Letter 5/5 91-100 A Rate Score Percent Letter 4/5 81-90% B Rate Score Percent Letter 3/5 75-80% C Rate Score Percent Letter 2/5 70-74% D Rate Score Percent Letter 1/5 50-69% F Overview: Gameplay "Another useful batch of altered melee of your doing, The expanded universe of each race is fascinating though I suggest you reduce much of all the neutral passive units running around the map, they can be bothersome at times and highly useful to necro ability type of units." Terrain "Map is based on a default warcraft 3 map, therefore you did well on gameplay not in terrain." Management "Overall, nice job with this expansion." Total Score: Rate Score Percent Letter 8/15 77% C

 

[Bloody Wolf]

Amazing.....its all i can say 10\5
you should try changing the tidal guardian model to the tentacled guardian
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/tentacled-guardian-235722/?prev=r=20&page=3