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Hi guys. My project CCFE has a Chaos Orc ladder race as some of you may know. However this race is unbalanced and has problems. Also their abilities suck. So I decided to remake the race and I came up with this ideas. However I am not sure if this new ideas are good. I fear that I am making the race too powerful and too unbalanced, and I also lack ideas and names for some key units. So I am here (again) asking for the opinion of the community.
Please give suggestions and ideas, I give rep++ to people who help.
You are not forced to read the whole, thing, just jump to the last part where I say the stuff I need, then use "ctrl + f" on this webpage to search the ability in the document.
I would like to have suggestions for units abilities and buildings.
Now this is what I need to find/know:
- Do you think this race is overpowered ?
- Cool name for Dark Stick ability ... lol
- Special ability for Red Dragon (supposed to be a counter for Frost Wyrm)
- Cool name for the special corrupted wyvern ability
- Cool icon for Stick ability from Wyvern
- Cool icon for Mindful Spear
- Cool icon for Ward longevity
- Do you think Mindful Spear is too strong against casters ?
- Do you think I should replace Spiked Barricades for something more original?
Modifications:
- Completely remade the description, now everything has more detail!
- Remade mindful spear ability
- Found an icon for Chaos Rage
- Made Battle Transe weaker
- Now people can download the file!
I think this is all =D
Please give suggestions and ideas, I give rep++ to people who help.
You are not forced to read the whole, thing, just jump to the last part where I say the stuff I need, then use "ctrl + f" on this webpage to search the ability in the document.
Based on:
Design Guide for a Fifth Race - Wc3campaigns
Buildings
Main
- Model: Orc Great Hall
- Icon: Orc Great Hall
- Funtion: Can gather resources and evlve to 3 tiers.
- Units:
- Fel Orc Peon
- Researches:
- Chaotic Rage
- BackPack
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 1
Fel Orc burrow
- Model: Orc burrow
- Icon: Orc burrow
- Funtion: Increases food. Can load peons to defend itself.
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 1
Fel Orc tower
- Model: Orc tower
- Icon: Orc tower
- Funtion: Basic defensive unit that attacks enemies
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 1
Corrupted fountain
- Model: Blood fountain
- Icon: Blood fountain
- Funtion: Sells items for the race. It is also a requirement for some units.
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 1
Fel Lumber Mill
- Model: Orc Lumber Mill
- Icon: Orc Lumber Mill
- Funtion: Serves as a drop point for lumber. Also has upgrades for the Fel Orcs.
- Researches:
- Spiked Barrciades
- Melee attack
- Melee armor
- Ranged attack
- Ranged armor
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 1
Chaos Barracks
- Model: Orc barracks
- Icon: Orc barracks
- Function: Trains basic warrior for the Chaos Orc race
- Units:
- Fel Orc Grunt
- Fel Berseker
- Chaos cart
- Researches:
- Inner Flame
- Inner Burn
- Driver License
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 1
Altar
- Model: Demon Portal (needs birth animation)
- Icon: Demon Portal
- Function: Trains and revives heroes
- Units:
- Summoner
- Chaos Warchief
- Chaos Blade Master
- Chaos Leader
- Researches: none
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 1
Possession Lodge
- Model: Orc Spirit Lodge
- Icon: Orc Spirit Lodge
- Function: Trains casters and also has upgrdas for them
- Units:
- Chaos Warmage
- Fel Seeker
- Researches:
- Chaos Warmage Adept training
- Chaos Warmage Master traning
- Fel Seekerk Adept training
- Fel Seeker Master training
- Skeletal Unholy strenght
- Ward Longevity
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 2
Chaos Bestiary
- Model: Orc Bestiary
- Icon: Orc Bestiary
- Function: Trains medium units with abilities for fast attacks and support. Also trains the shop unit.
- Units:
- Fel Orc Rider
- Fel Chaos Kodo beast
- Fel Dragon Rider
- Researches:
- Devil's Speed
- Battle Transe
- Throw spear
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 2
Chaos Dragon Roost
- Model: Red dragon roost (need birth, train, and death animations)
- Icon: Draon Roost
- Function: Trains the ultimate unit for the Chaos Orcs. Also has upgrade for it.
- Units:
- Red Dragon
- Researches:
- Dragon Ability 1: (need idea)
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 3
Corruption Core
- Model: Power Generator (lack birth, train and death animations)
- Icon: Power Generator
- Function: Trains a corrupted spirit wyvern and is a requirement for Dragon Roost. Also has abilities for the unit it trains.
- Units:
- Corrupted Wyvern Spirit
- Researches:
- Spirit stick (need cool name for ability)
- Abilities: Spiked Barricades
- Tier 3
Units
Fel Peon
- Description: Can harvest gold and lumber and it can also build structures. Can learn Greave ability and get inside burrows.
- Model: Fel Peon
- Icon: Fel Peon
- Abilities: Chaos Rage
Fel Grunt
- Description: Strong melee unit made to counter the Orc grunt but to be weaker in long term. Can learn Chaos Fire and Greave.
- Model: Fel Grunt
- Icon: Fel Grunt
- Abilities:
- Inner Flame
- Chaos Rage
Fel Berseker
- Description: Chaos Orc ranged unit. It is strong and has a great attack. Can learn Inner burn and Drive Cart.
- Model: Units\Demon\ChaosOrcRange\ChaosOrcRange.mdl
- Icon: Replaceabletextures\Commandbuttons\BTNDiabloCar.blp
- Abilities:
- Inner Burn
- Ride Cart
Chaos Cart
- Description: A siege unit for Chaos Orcs, just like the catapult.
- Model: Countraption machine
- Icon: Countraption machine
- Abilities: Get in (allows mix Fel Berseker with this unit)
Chaos Combination
- Description: A mix of the Chaos Berseker with the siege unit. This new unit is very good against buildings and air units, but weaker in melee combat.
- Model: Units\Other\DiabloCar\DiabloCar.mdl
- Icon: Countraption machine
- Abilities: Get Out (allows to separate the units again)
Fel Rider
- Description: Counterpart of the Orc rider, fast and deadly, specially good to harras. Can learn Devil's speed.
- Model: Fel Rider
- Icon: Fel Rider
- Abilities:
- Devil's Speed
- Chaos Rage
Fel Kodo Beast
- Description: Counterpart of the Orc Kodo Beast. Weak as a ranged unit, but excelent in support. Has devour and can learn Battle Transe.
- Model: Fel Kodo Beast
- Icon: Fel Kodo Beast
- Abilities:
- Battle Transe
- Devour
Fel Dragon Rider
- Description: A flying unit expert at making ranged assaults against other air units. It is also a good anti-caster. Can attack both ground and air units. Has Mindful Spear ability and can learn Throw spear.
- Model: Fel Orc Lancer - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
- Icon: BTNFelOrcEnforcer - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
- Abilities:
- Mindful Spear
- Throw Spear
Chaos Warmage
- Description: Ward casting unit made to be a dark counter of the Orc witch doctor. Can first cast "Draining Ward" which drains hp from enemy units near the ward. Can Learn "Soul Ward" and "Dark Stick".
- Model: Orc Warlock
- Icon: Orc Warlock
- Abilities:
- Drain Ward
- Soul Ward
- Dark Stick (need cool name)
Fel Seeker (need better name)k
- Description: Spellcasting unit made to be an alternative to the xaman. Can first cast "Firebolt" which damage and stuns enemy units for a short duration of time. Can learn "Burn" and "OnFire".
- Model: Fel warlock
- Icon: Fel Warlock
- Abilities:
- FireBolt
- Burn
- OnFire
Corrupted Wyvern Spirit
- Description: It is supposed to be as usefull as the undead ghost unit but it should be a born scouter and a master at confusing and escaping from the enemy.
- Model: Spirit Wyvern
- Icon: Spirit Wyvern
- Abilities:
- Invisibility
- True Sight
- Stick ability (need cool name xD)
Red Dragon
- Description: Might Air unit that has devour and is magic immune. Can also learn Drafon ability 1. (do you think that a flying unit with 3 abilities is too unbalanced? I think it is =S )
- Model: Red dragon level 10
- Icon: Red dragon
- Abilities:
- Devour
- Ability 1
Upgrades and abilities
Backpack
- Icon: backpack
- Description: Allows some Fel orc units to carry items
- Tier: 1
Chaotic Rage
- Icon: BTNBloodlust - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
- Description: Everytime a Fel Grunt, Fel Rider or a Fel peon attack an enemy unit, it has 15% to cause chaos damage to the unit.
- Tier: 2
Spiked Barricades
- Icon: Spiked barricades
- Description: Eveytime a melee unit attacks a building, it takes damage.
- Tier: 1
Inner Flame
- Icon: turn on immolation
- Description: Allows Fel Grunts to make a powerfull roar that will increase their armor depending on the number of allied Undead or Chaos units nearby. Maximumm armor bonus is 5.
- Tier: 2
Inner Burn
- Icon: turn immolation off
- Description: Allows Fel Bersekers to make a powerfull roar that will increase their attack depending on the number of allied Undead or Chaos units nearby. Maximumm attack bonus is 7.
- Tier: 2
Driver's License
- Icon: Load unit
- Description: Allows Fel Berserker to ride a Chaos Cart, thus forming a new unit with a siege attack against buildings and stronger against air. It is however weaker in combat.
- Tier: 2
Chaos Warmage Adept training
- Icon: Tome Book 1
- Description: Allows Chaos Warmage to cast Soul Ward. Soul Ward summons a skeleton from a corpse eveytime a unit dies near it. Also and increases their attack, mana and mana regeneration.
- Tier: 2
Chaos Warmage Master traning
- Icon: Tome Book 2
- Description: Allows Chaos Warmage to cast Dark Stick. Dark Stick decreases enemy units max hp by 2% and slows their movement speed by 20% as well.Also and increases their attack, mana and mana regeneration.
- Tier: 3
Fel Seekerk Adept training
- Icon: Roar item 1
- Description: Allows Fel Seeker to cast Burn. Burn burns all enemies in the target AOE for 3 hp/sec and decreases their armor by -2. If a unit that is being burned dies, it will explode and the effect of Burn will go to all enemy units near it. It also dispells magical buffs.
- Tier: 2
Fel Seeker Master training
- Icon: Roar item 2
- Description: Allwos Fel Seeker to cast OnFire. OnFire gives allies units +3 damage, increases hp regeneration, a fireshield that damages enemy units by 7 hp/sec and a fire AOE attack as well.
- Tier: 3
Skeletal Unholy strenght
- Icon: Champion Orc skeleton
- Description: Upgrades the skeletons summoned by Soul Ward, making them stronger. Their life time does not change.
- Tier: 2
Ward Longevity
- Icon: (need one)
- Description: Increases the life time of wards from the Chaos Warmage
- Tier: 3
Devil's Speed
- Icon: BTNHaste - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site
- Description: Allows Fel Riders to gain 2% extra movement speed per each allied Chaos or Undead unit nearby. The Fel Rider also loses his path size, so he can move through units. When doing this, if he moves through a unit, that unit get slowed by 20% o his speed for 5 seconds. Has a maximum stack of 25%. Lasts 15 seconds.
- Tier: 2
Battle Transe:
- Icon: (need one)
- Description: Allows the Fel Kodo beast to have an aura that increases allied units hp by 2%.
- Tier: 2
Mindful Spear
- Icon: (need passive Icon)
- Description:: When the Rider damages a unit, it poisons the mind of the unit, making it lose 4 mana per second (it is like poison ability but with mana. The chaos orcs like dispelling and anti-caster abilies, so this is a good one). If a caster with Midful spear casts a spell, he also loses adition 5% of his mana. When targeted on Summoned units, it poisons thier sould making them take 33% extra damage from all sources. Lasts 30 seconds.
- Tier: none, comes with the unit
Throw spear
- Icon: ReplaceableTextures\CommandButtons\BTNImpalingBolt.blp
- Description: Allows the Fel Dragon Rider to throw a big spear that will travel through the air, damaging other enemy air units it finds.
- Tier: 3
Spirit stick (need cool name for ability)
- Icon: (need good icon)
- Description: Allows the corrupted spirit to stick to a unit and allways follow it. It can unstick anytime he wants.
- Tier: 3
I would like to have suggestions for units abilities and buildings.
Now this is what I need to find/know:
- Do you think this race is overpowered ?
- Cool name for Dark Stick ability ... lol
- Special ability for Red Dragon (supposed to be a counter for Frost Wyrm)
- Cool name for the special corrupted wyvern ability
- Cool icon for Stick ability from Wyvern
- Cool icon for Mindful Spear
- Cool icon for Ward longevity
- Do you think Mindful Spear is too strong against casters ?
- Do you think I should replace Spiked Barricades for something more original?
Modifications:
- Completely remade the description, now everything has more detail!
- Remade mindful spear ability
- Found an icon for Chaos Rage
- Made Battle Transe weaker
- Now people can download the file!
I think this is all =D
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