Channel ability turn on/off function

[Chewii]

Hello there!
Do you guys have a clue how to modify (if you even can) the Channel ability so you can use the turn on/off function? Like the defend ability for footmen. I've tried many things but i can't get it to work :S
If this is possible please respond

Regards Chewii

 

[Nichilus]

nope, afaik it's not possible. Still, why don't you use Defend ability as the base then? Just set all fields to 0 and you're ready to go.

 

[_MB_]

I think you could for example use somethig like this. If it is not what you wanted, describe your problem more pls.

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order with no target
  • Conditions
    • (Issued order) Equal to (Order(defened))
  • Actions

and

• Untitled Trigger 001
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Is issued an order with no target
  • Conditions
    • (Issued order) Equal to (Order(undefened))
  • Actions

the first triggers when you order the footman to defend and to second one to deactivate that (obiously you can than alter the ability, if you want to use it for something else)

Edit: I probably slightly misunderstood the problem, but if you are skilled with triggers, you could do that in way I have shown above

 

[Chewii]

No it is not what i meant

nope, afaik it's not possible. Still, why don't you use Defend ability as the base then? Just set all fields to 0 and you're ready to go.

Because i want 2 abilities with turn on/off function, however using 2 abilities with the same order ID will interfere :s

 

[IcemanBo]

Because i want 2 abilities with turn on/off function

manashield, immolation, invulnerability, defense

What do you exactly need? If needed you also could create 2 seperated abilities, and only add 1 to unit.
If the unit uses the ability, you remove it and add the other ability. So you would simulate it.

 

[Chewii]

the problem with those are, if i use immolation the special effect will still be there nomatter what i do, same with divine sheild..

 

[IcemanBo]

You can remove the effect by removing the buff of the ability in object editor.

 

[Chewii]

You can remove the effect by removing the buff of the ability in object editor.

I did that, but it doesn't work. :/

 

[IcemanBo]

And if you go in category "buffs" in OE, search for divine shield and remove there the attachment for target?

 

[Chewii]

the effect disappears, however the invurnability is still on

 

[DysfunctionaI]

Probably because you forgot to remove the Duration, or it's set to zero, which will make it last forever. Set the Duration to 0.01

My favorite skill to use for stuff like this is Beserk.

 

[Chewii]

I want it to be able to toggle on and have it on forever if you'd like, like the defence spell for footmen. So it doesn't matter even if i set the duration to 0.01 seconds he will be invurnerable for 0.01 seconds and then it will automatically turn off. So i want it to be on forever but WITHOUT the invurnerability.

Does the beserk ability even have a turn off/on function?

 

[IcemanBo]

You want to have "it" forever? What is "it" here? I don't see the problem, if you don't want the 0.01 invul (even without buff) why not use other ability? :s

 

[Nichilus]

Because i want 2 abilities with turn on/off function, however using 2 abilities with the same order ID will interfere :s

There is ability called Magic Defense, which is the same as Defend (in terms of fields this ability has) but with different ID.

 

[pOke]

Do you just need to know the "state" of the unit or do you actually need defend/immolation etc.? You can just use channel, if its a hero learned ability you need 3 abilities, the dummy ability (the one the hero learns) should have visibility off and as many levels as necessary.

If you just need a unleveled ability that has "toggle" functionality, you use 2 abilities based on channel each with 2 levels, 1 level being visible and another level with the visibility checked off.

To explain this better I'll pretend we're making Defend and we are triggering the effects. So...The unit gets defend, now we add both channel based abilities, lets call them A and B. Have B initially set to level 2, so it is hidden from the command card (Denoting Defend is Off), A is present on the command card (Denoting we can turn on Defend by casting this) the option and waiting to be "activated" when the unit gets the order/starts the effect of an ability simply set the level of A to 2 and B to 1. This will effectively create a "toggable" ability.

 

[Chewii]

Oh thanks Nichilus, I didn't know that

yeah pOke that's true i could use abilities to add and remove the others, well thought!

 

[LordDz]

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