Belgarath's Third Terrain Showcase

[Belgarath]

As it's no good posting 50 threads with terrains in them, I decided to open my third and hopefully final terrain showcase. It'll contain only what I think are good screen shots. Each one is labeled and numbered.

1. The Forest Hills - my first screen shot with actually good lighting.
2. The Long Way Home - my second well-lighted shot, of a couple of ships returning home.
3. The Forest Hills - Small Scale - the path winding through the Forest Hills.
4. The Tropical Island - where the people in The Long Way Home are coming from.
5. The Forest Road - a road winding through an unknown forest.
6. The Lost City - a lost city. Gave me a big idea for the challenge terrain.
7. The Ancient Wood - an ancient forest, done for a challenge terrain.
8. The Bushy Road - a road that was based on a forest road in Germany, just memories.
9 & 10. The Fall Path - a road through a forest. 100% playable, uses one custom model.
11. The Path - a path running through the expanse of Real Texture country. Uses RTES models.

 

[~Void~]

These are all pretty good, but there are a few things I have noticed.
They all look the same! Same doodads, mainly same tileset, same grass same fog same trees same light same theme.
Well that's really only one thing but you get what I mean

 

[DungeonM]

I think the Tropical Isle one looks the best. The rocks in the water look awesome and has a perfect color scheme. Overall they look really good.

 

[~Void~]

Also there is no tile variation :\

Make the paths rough dirt and the rest dirt so you see that cool tile transition at the edge of the path. Or at least put rocks there.

 

[Belgarath]

Well, I used rocks in a new screen. I was half tempted to make a cobble road out of rocks, but I didn't. The same theme stuff is supposed to be. It's sorta like my brand.

 

[Gilles]

I thought the same thing as Void. It's all the same thing, with slight variation. It's really good, but everything looks too similar. You need to branch out.

 

[Belgarath]

I do too. I know I have too little variation. :/

 

[~Void~]

The newest one doesn't look too good. I dunno why, it just doesn't... maybe it's the fog or the tints or whatever I dunno :\
And it doesn't look lost... it looks brand new...

 

[FamousPker49]

Wow, this is the absolute worst terrain gallery ever.... Jk. Although they all look the same, well except for the tropical island. But I suppose you have really nailed that combination of doodads and such. I still like it. Gj.

 

[Belgarath]

Eh, I like them. But I used variation in the forest. Haven't added the hatch yet, as I'm still going to do change some things about it.

 

[Oziris]

I like the last one!

 

[Rui]

This is definitely good. Sometimes an excessive amount or lack of doodads, but overall good. 9/10 for the pack.

 

[~Void~]

The newest one is definitely good, but some pointers.
Fors starters, moonlight isn't purple. ^_^
Also, the leaves on the tree are much different colored from the trunks. Looks unrealistic.
The grass model sucks, and so do the bushes. Change that.
The path just looks like the grass is COMPLETELY gone and there is just dirt. Looks really bad, you should add a thinning out effect, or pebbles, or something to make it looks complete.
Tile variation.

 

[Belgarath]

Don't see what's wrong with the grass. Dude, are you colour blind? It's bloody blue and who said it's moonlight? Bushes don't suck either. And it's an ancient forest, you dunno what magic's there to keep the grass off the road. As for tile variation, imagine this one without the grass ... not so appealing is it? The rough dirt is crap.

 

[Gilles]

You new terrain is a slight step away from the others, but still similar. Try making something totally different. They all use tallish grass, trees, and a path. The background and color variates.

 

[Belgarath]

Colour and background was what I was aiming for in that one - and doodad variation. Haven't used those doodads

 

[~Void~]

Don't see what's wrong with the grass. Dude, are you colour blind? It's bloody blue and who said it's moonlight? Bushes don't suck either. And it's an ancient forest, you dunno what magic's there to keep the grass off the road. As for tile variation, imagine this one without the grass ... not so appealing is it? The rough dirt is crap.

Sounds like laziness to me. You don't need to use whatever tileset you are using, you can use ashenvale or village, too.

 

[Belgarath]

Eh, I'm thinking about making a town or some temple. Inside and outside shots. Might be high res tho.

 

[Wolf.]

They are all ok, but they are missing something. Maybe there's just not anything interesting enough to focus on in the picture, they're all just grass, trees and light. And the blue light on the last one looks ugly, I suggest making it teal or something.
I dunno, don't listen to me. Not like I've done better!

 

[Belgarath]

Eh, all the terrains are sorta ... deleted. I move on quickly >_<
BTW, when have I ever denied being lazy?

 

[ghenjis]

The last one is really cool. I dig it.

 

[Belgarath]

I added a new screen, needa update post tho.

 

[Gilles]

Again, too bright, and I'm getting sick of those trees. It would be good if you hadn't posted anything before it, but as is, I dislike it because it's the same stuff.

 

[Belgarath]

It has tiles. That's new, ain't it?

 

[Japut3h]

Looks pretty nice.The others might not like the lack of variations,but you managed to use that to make it look cool.+rep!

 

[Gilles]

It has tiles. That's new, ain't it?

You are slowly breaking away for sure, but you haven't yet. Your one for the contest was quite different though.

Edit: Although everyone has a style. All my terrains look similar and so do Voids, and MadseN's, ect. So most of your terrains are going to have a similar feel, you just need to get away from the few doodads that you keep using.

 

[Troubadour]

you just need to get away from the few doodads that you keep using.

And the light! It looks good on a couple terrains, but where does it all come from? also it obscures quite a bit of the terrain at times and makes it a bit uninteresting, the one for the contest was a definite improvment.

 

[Oziris]

The last one has much much light! Delete the light u dont even see the sky...

 

[Craka_J]

Very well done. Love the lighting of the first screenshot too. However, the fifth terrain's path looks messy. The majority of those terrains are very good, though.

~Craka_J

 

[Belgarath]

*update: added two Fall Path terrains, of a map I'm making. Or maybe I'm not, it's just terrain ATM. 100% playable, uses 1 custom doodad (pine); I think the lantern in the first screen looks cool. (Far one)

 

[Oziris]

The last 2 are nice but i see someone flying trees.

 

[Belgarath]

Well I didn't know anyone's made some model flying a tree, but if you say so...
Don't see flying trees either. I'll make some new terrain today, after school.

 

[Naze]

I see you love working with vivid nature.

I think you could use shorter grass to your terrains... I think it would look better.

 

[~Void~]

White water rafting FTW!
Maybe that's what he was trying to say.

 

[Deathcom3s]

The last 2 are nice but i see someone flying trees.

Lol, i don't think you can fly trees, but if you say so.

Very nice terrain Belgarath. You've done well with the lighting +rep!

 

[Belgarath]

In that last one, as I said, the only custom doodad were the big pines. All WC3 effects otherwise. I was really surprised by the effects.
Or were you talking about the others?

 

[Nudl9]

Pff your overwhelming with fog on every screenie, same for other terrainers...

 

[Belgarath]

Whaddya mean overwhelming with fog?

 

[Deathcom3s]

He's just jealous because he can't do lighting. =P

 

[Belgarath]

Fog is different from lighting, mate. Don't confuse them.

 

[Nudl9]

Well anyway the sight limit is way to short, either fog or by super-mass-lightning-powa-go-yay!?

He's just jealous because he can't do lighting. =P

No

 

[Belgarath]

Actually, you can see until the end of the map / screen in nearly all of them. In the last two, it's just a curve.
Never thought you were jealous; and I'm pretty sure you can do lighting.

 

[Deathcom3s]

Well anyway the sight limit is way to short, either fog or by super-mass-lightning-powa-go-yay!?

See, he did mean lighting, kind-of

 

[Nudl9]

Well it just hurts me to hear each time a new guy comes by posting a screenie and someone tells him to: add fog!
Its like a lame (in my opinion) trend.

 

[Belgarath]

I used to never ever use fogs. My brother (Ivanneth) taught me while he was making his map.

 

[Deathcom3s]

Your brothers Ivanneth? Cool, didn't know that.

I didn't use fog in my first two terrains, even though i wouldn't call them terrains

 

[Craka_J]

I like the tree variation in the Fall ones. They're all great, except the dark forest terrain looks a little... plain, I guess would be the word I'm looking for. Try adding more trees, rocks, and other things that stand out more besides the grass. Plus, the path isn't very noticable. Not in a good way at least.

~Craka_J

 

[Belgarath]

*update: Added a new, high res, path picture. High Res AND lighting. Yay.

 

[~Void~]

Belgarath, you need to work on your lighting. Sunlight doesn't just come down in rays like that And you can see the individual light doodads. Especially in the very last one :\

And the one where the lights go behind the hill, well in my opinion lights should only be right in front of the camera, or if not, used sparingly. But hey, it's up to you, artistic license, right?

 

[Craka_J]

Just looked at your latest batch of terrains. They're not impressive really, but it looks like a very... clean terrain. Reminds me of a golf-course or something. I like it, but there are things about it that I don't like. The elevation under trees is scarce and I'm not a big fan of Ashenvale trees either for Warcraft III. Though, the tile variation was done neatly and blended nicely which is what I think gave the terrain overall a clean look to it.

But like I said, there wasn't much to be impressed by. It is a very basic terrain that happens to look pretty good. What can I say.

Your weakness is in lighting I suppose, as ~Void~ has said, and the placement of your environmental doodads such as Logs is somewhat slightly random. Unfortunately, I cannot explain myself. I rate the terrain a 6/10 since it was neat, but nothing cool.

~Craka_J