Beholder

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16:08, 8th Jun 2012
DonDustin: the quality of the mesh and the textures is magnificant, but the file size could be a bit more effizient and the animations a bit more fluent
DonDustin: Decided to change the rating to 5/5 beecause the mesh and texture are too good for a 4/5 rating

 

[SuPa-]

I'll also be making a custom spell projectile and a custom attack projectile for this model.
Furthermore, the model will have death sounds once I get WC3 installed and am able to access the MPQ.

*I'm going to make an icon for this model too

 

[Marcos DAB]

[+] Custom Mesh.
[+] Custom Animations.
[+] Cosmetically perfect.

[-] File size is a bit exaggerated.
[-] The hair could move more in other animations as well as attack.


It would be difficult, but it could use not custom texture.

 

[Jack Of Hearts]

Wow.. Thanks... Surprised by what I got from a request..

This model's awesome, lol.

If possible I would like to request a few more animations.. (Perhaps it attacking with it's tendrils/Using them more?)

It's cool of you don't want to do that though..

 

[TaShadan]

awesome!
didnt test it yet, are the Teamcolors strong enough to recognize ingame?

 

[Jack Of Hearts]

awesome!
didnt test it yet, are the Teamcolors strong enough to recognize ingame?

Yep, the team colours are fine.

 

[Sin'dorei300]

It's f*cking awesome! This needs DC!

 

[I3lackDeath]

This is eyecandy. Great textures!

 

[morbent]

Awesome 5/5 +rep

 

[MiniMage]

Badass, nuff' said.

 

[JollyD]

extreme ! yes yes so cool

 

[RandomPogi]

Bet this would have gotten DC if not for the large filesize. +rep!

 

[SuPa-]

Nah, most DC models with custom textures have +100-200 more kb than this. But it's no big deal, just a rating

But for the file size, I'll play with texture compressions to try and reduce it while maintaining quality.

Jack of Hearts, I don' think that I'll be adding more animations, sorry! I'd have to re-do all of the time consuming effects. And animating 10 tentacles is a painnn in Milkshape.

 

[Luorax]

Wow, this is awesome!

May I request too, may I request too, may I request too? (Just kidding - although I could give you a few ideas if you think you much have time)

 

[Jack Of Hearts]

Lol, it's cool.

Thanks for this awesome model though. X)

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

i think this model is one of the best ive seen in terms of quality. beyond professional standards.

and i dont give idle complements.

 

[SuPa-]

By the way, thanks everyone for the comments! Glad that you all like it. And you're welcome Jack of Hearts, it was a fun model to make.

Luorax, you're free to PM me your ideas. If I like one I may model it.

Thanks for the praise Pyramidhe@d!

 

[Kam]

Wonderful model. I look forward to a version with in-game textures.

Edit: Does it have a death noise?

 

[Lordkoon]

We



require



DC!

 

[Misha]

this is quality like i usually see in skyrim

 

[SuPa-]

Hey Kam, it doesn't have a death noise quite yet. I'm going to add one when I get the chance (probably tonight).

 

[SpasMaster]

Perfectly executed. Amazing job. 5/5

 

[Matt]

I like it a lot, and I'm excited to see you're interested in making it even better.

It looks exactly like the concept that was requested of you. Once the changes are made, I expect this to be one of the next staple resources that appears in every demon map.

 

[Tickles]

That's some ridiculously amazing quality. How did it only get moderated 4/5? Tickles is sad I can understand why it didn't get DC yet, but not a 4/5.

Anyway, great job with it (especially animating all of those tentacles). You'll have to settle with +rep in place of the missing rating.

 

[SuPa-]

Updated, now with death sounds! Expect an icon soon.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

just take out the middle eye and change textures, you get a beholder lich

 

[Orcnet]

my eyes are beholded! )

 

[Gekigengar]

Dem Filesize

 

[Hell_Raider]

Woah, looks freaking awesome! Will test it later today then rate, but looking out 5/5 for its looks!

 

[Baelnorn]

It is really perfect, such a nice idea and great quality. Also, I love models based on Dungeons & Dragons.

 

[sonofjay]

We got a DC model with a gigantus 917kb filesize

Anyway this is one awesome model 5/5! +rep

 

[Taco]

too many textures

 

[Uncle Fester]

this is a truly good model, but the folesize is ruining it's good rating, i guess. No question, from me it gets a 5/5 due to the good work and the obvious efforts put into it. GJ

 

[Situ]

Yeah the filesize is high, but you can squisch the model and lower the textures by your own so you come to >250 kb in the map so this doesn´t maters^^. Its a realy realy great model and very usefull, good job

 

[InfernalTater]

This is awesome, but the file size is ridiculous for this type of model. I hope to see you remake it with in-game textures in the future.

Still, 5/5.

 

[Mgeterno11]

Beautiful and cool model. Really looks amazind and scary. Works perfectly in-game. 5/5

 

[xvarts]

It is good to see D&D models. If only there was a halfling model...

 

[Fire Eagle]

Unique model. But the file size is so big. Anyways, It's nice.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

DEAR PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THE FILE SIZES ARE TOO MUCH.

read

you guys do realise the "huge" file size is in direct relation with the 7 custom textures that it has?

and you do realise that this model in total, full animated, full custom textured with full working spectacular effects is 312kb. even smaller when imported in to the worled editor.

while this custom textured, non-animated attachment model is 204 kb

and this NON-custom, animated textured model is 253kb

and this crappily custom textured old version of the beholder that no one complains about the texture size is 768 kb.

so really, 312 kb is NOTHING. numerically speaking, you are "paying" around 60 kb more to have a fully fitting custom textured, custom effects, fully animated model in your map instead of just a custom model with an ingame texture. also having to use an ingame texture only model that need multiple textures instead of just a single one is really inefficient on your system. because instead of keeping 1 texture in the cache, you are keeping like 6.

60kb extra. for this awesome model. that is efficient and clean. are you people really going to complain about 60kb extra?

FURTHER ON WITH MY POINT.

lemme show you some fully animated and custom textured models. these dont have custom particle emitters and effects though.
328 kb
201kb
201kb
236kb
368kb
I would say these also average around from 200 to 300. 360 on some big ones. lets say average 250 for good measures.

NOW lets see some models with fully animated, custom textured and custom particle emitters.

NO OTHER ONES THAT I KNOW OF EXCEPT THIS ONE.

once again. 60kb extra for SET of custom particle emitters. do you guys really give a crap about 60 kb? especially when that 60 kb delivers such great effects?.

MORE ON
let us to some more math. map file size limit is what. 8mb? that is 8192kb
that is 26 off these full custom models that you can shove in. lets say get rid of about half for all the other crap that a map needs other than models. so like 13. arent you not happy that you can fit 13 fully custom models in your map instead of 14 or 15 of not so efficient ingame texture using models?

not to mention beholder is like a boss character. how do you even manage to fit 13 boss characters in a map?
and like i said, it is prolly even more compressed when in the editor.

so stop complaining about the file size. REALLY.

on another note. i see you are using some billboarded planes. if you can be bothered, you could prolly see about putting that effect texture somewhere on your main model texture. in the future. in one of the empty spaces. that would save even more file size. other than that, i dont see anything else

 

[Kam]

On the filesize note, it's even less when you use .mdx squisher. This is really a great model, the team color placement is brilliant.

 

[SuPa-]

Thanks for the further compliments guys, and yeah, the file size is a sacrifice for quality and uniqueness. I wanted to create my own effects and textures for this model, because well, it was fun and I can.

Pyramidhe@d, thanks for the explanation! I was going to make a similar post explaining the file size. And yeah, I probably could've included the EnergySpark. Too late now though :/ As for the EnergyBall textures, they needed to be individual textures because of the texture animation.

 

[Legion_King]

I would choose this model over WoW Beholder anytime. Great model!

 

[Kam]

I would suggest making the tentacles move around a little more during all of the animations.

 

[CBX Entertainment]

Now this guy kicks ass

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

looks like the anims need work afterall, supa-

 

[SuPa-]

I see what you did there

Sorry Kam! But I won't be making any changes to the animations for this model.

 

[Pyramidhe@d]

lazy bum bum.

its not like a beholder is a very action orientated creature anyways. it just floats around and dispenses death

 

[rcshaggy]

Reminds me of the creatures from World of Warcraft, and the ones from Doom.

 

[Fire Eagle]

DEAR PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THE FILE SIZES ARE TOO MUCH.

read

you guys do realise the "huge" file size is in direct relation with the 7 custom textures that it has?

and you do realise that this model in total, full animated, full custom textured with full working spectacular effects is 312kb. even smaller when imported in to the worled editor.

while this custom textured, non-animated attachment model is 204 kb

and this NON-custom, animated textured model is 253kb

and this crappily custom textured old version of the beholder that no one complains about the texture size is 768 kb.

so really, 312 kb is NOTHING. numerically speaking, you are "paying" around 60 kb more to have a fully fitting custom textured, custom effects, fully animated model in your map instead of just a custom model with an ingame texture. also having to use an ingame texture only model that need multiple textures instead of just a single one is really inefficient on your system. because instead of keeping 1 texture in the cache, you are keeping like 6.

60kb extra. for this awesome model. that is efficient and clean. are you people really going to complain about 60kb extra?

FURTHER ON WITH MY POINT.

lemme show you some fully animated and custom textured models. these dont have custom particle emitters and effects though.
328 kb
201kb
201kb
236kb
368kb
I would say these also average around from 200 to 300. 360 on some big ones. lets say average 250 for good measures.

NOW lets see some models with fully animated, custom textured and custom particle emitters.

NO OTHER ONES THAT I KNOW OF EXCEPT THIS ONE.

once again. 60kb extra for SET of custom particle emitters. do you guys really give a crap about 60 kb? especially when that 60 kb delivers such great effects?.

MORE ON
let us to some more math. map file size limit is what. 8mb? that is 8192kb
that is 26 off these full custom models that you can shove in. lets say get rid of about half for all the other crap that a map needs other than models. so like 13. arent you not happy that you can fit 13 fully custom models in your map instead of 14 or 15 of not so efficient ingame texture using models?

not to mention beholder is like a boss character. how do you even manage to fit 13 boss characters in a map?
and like i said, it is prolly even more compressed when in the editor.

so stop complaining about the file size. REALLY.

on another note. i see you are using some billboarded planes. if you can be bothered, you could prolly see about putting that effect texture somewhere on your main model texture. in the future. in one of the empty spaces. that would save even more file size. other than that, i dont see anything else

Oh, I see. I was just shocked to see a 300+ kb size cause i watched other models and I see that they have 150- kb.