Announcements

[Tleno]

Oh, I forgot about the zerg... well, there is a building that trains units just like a regular buildings, but all kinds... and other... well yes, kinda like zerg...

 

[VeljkoM]

Or as tiberium 4 since it is high tech. Well i guess you'll have all kinds of golems and stuff like that.

 

[Tleno]

Right. I also was kinda inspired with Company Of Heroes. I really like the units it has and how they made the gameplay intresting and realistic...

 

[Chaos.]

Wrong Section. This is announcements, not race discussion.

So the resource section will be for all resource discussion including wips, resource finding, or resource suggestions.

So basically these 3 things (examples).
"Here is my latest wip of my model"
"Does any one know where I can find the troll bear rider model"
"What model should I use for my murloc siege unit."

All in favor.

 

[Tleno]

Oh, forgive me please. I just tough its the race discusssion. Well, still I think I don't have anything else to say so...

 

[VeljkoM]

After many moths of waiting (or in normal case forgetting) the Race contest has finally ended and results are posted.

 

[Wazzz]

To borrow a line from Starcraft 2:
Hell. It's about time.

The winners were Wraithling in first, Xiliger in second and our very own VeljkoM in third =D

 

[VeljkoM]

Hope we do better next time. Or maybe we should host it?

 

[Michael Peppers]

Congratulations, VeljkoM! =D

I hope I'll enter next time, that'd be fun =)

 

[Chaos.]

Woot, way to go Veljko. The next one probably won't be for a while if we have it, but if there is another one I would suggest doing a team race building contest. The reason being, is that the amount of entries will be cut in half (less judging) and the quality of the races will duplicate. (two people working on one race, meaning more will get accomplished.)

 

[Tleno]

Well Velj you won a third place. Pretty good I'd say.

 

[VeljkoM]

Thanks all. And the teamed race would be cool but what are the chances of that? Teach-tree contests were always solo...I think.

 

[Misha]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/natheras-162619/ ok.. lill sumthin' :3

 

[Michael Peppers]

Hi guys, I don't know if this is the right place to post this... anyway I've just released the first beta of my project, check it out here!

Feedback will be appreciated. =)

 

[Misha]

hmm this is interesting.. :3

 

[VeljkoM]

Well I am not fan of mods because if something goes wrong I don't have warcraft cd to reinstall.

But project itself sounds great.

 

[Michael Peppers]

Thanks, guys.

Don't worry about modifying anything, VeljkoM, my approach doesn't involve any "mpq moving" stuff, you just have to download the exe and use it, it's a SEMPQ afterall. =)

 

[VeljkoM]

Well I don't know what it is. I just don't want to lose regular Warcraft actually.

 

[Misha]

..this is like.. run a program on a single map and it'll install the race on just that map, right?

 

[Michael Peppers]

Nope, practically it's an executable, with an MPQ inside of it, that makes wc3 load said MPQ, along with the normal files. I had to include a modified Blizzard.j inside the MPQ to make melee maps use the Blood Elves instead of the Humans and to add triggered spells. It doesn't move nor modify any of the normal wc3 files.

But if you're unsure about that, you can still try the map I included instead of the SEMPQ, you may lose some *bling*, though.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well it is great race but somethings annoyed me. Like the cost of main building upgrade. The force field is kinda to bright. And phoenix unit doesn't attack air.

 

[Michael Peppers]

1. Yeah, I don't know how that could happen, sincerely, that has no sense. Will fix. (it's a map-only problem, btw)
2. Will look into it.
3. Heavy air units normally don't attack air.

 

[VeljkoM]

1. I know the cause. It is patch bug. The cost of upgrade is now I think cost of old building and new one. Town Hall + Keep=new cost
3. Actually that is just for chimera but that isn't a bug so it doesn't need to be changed.

 

[Michael Peppers]

Thanks for the feedback, btw. =)

As soon as I reinstall wc3 I'll fix that nasty bug. (I've fixed it in the SEMPQ now, but the map still suffers from that)

 

[VeljkoM]

I had that problem also with my race for competition. It is shocking to see 500 gold price.

 

[Michael Peppers]

Yeah, the weird fact is that I tested the race myself so many times... and I didn't see that bug... as always.

 

[VeljkoM]

What patch you use?

 

[Michael Peppers]

The latest. Probably I just assumed the values were correct, since they were in older maps. >_>

 

[VeljkoM]

Well old maps probably used older patch? Did you set in editor for map to use latest melee patch?

 

[Michael Peppers]

I don't remember, but I'll check for it. Thanks for all these infos!

 

[VeljkoM]

Well if it is helping the no problem.

 

[Chaos.]

Due to some RL plans, I will be inactive for the next 3 months. I will be travelling around visiting friends and family. So to avoid complete chaos due to the absence of a leader, I have decided to transfer the group ownership to VeljkoM. I see him as being the most fit for the job and I hope that he can keep this group more active then I could.
I can't really say how often I will be on because I don't really know if there will be internet where ever I am staying, but I will try my best to pop in every once and awhile. Good luck with your projects.

 

[VeljkoM]

Well I hope we'll get this place up and running. And there are seriously lot of deleted stuff...

 

[Chaos.]

lol, ya you will definetley see alot of that. This group was VERY spam infested when I became owner. That is why I don't want ot leave this group without an active owner. (It might start up again with the spam fests, lol)

 

[VeljkoM]

Well to be honest even the undeleted once are dead...

 

[Chaos.]

Pretty much. That's why a new leader with some motivation was needed; to revive this group and take it to it's full potential. I'm sure that you can delete a few more of the dead discussions.

 

[VeljkoM]

I'll give them a chase? Maybe inform the creators?

 

[Chaos.]

A while ago I PMed most of the creators asking if their project was still alive. I got rid of several dead ones that way. You should Try that again. You might be able to get rid of somemore.

 

[VeljkoM]

Why not vm?

 

[Chaos.]

Which ever.

 

[VeljkoM]

Announcement: All that are interest in race making I suggest checking the 4th Custom Race Contest . Anyone interest is welcomed to join.

 

[VeljkoM]

Ok seems this group need to be reminded of few guidelines and some basic race making rules.

First, this group has rules and I would like people to remember Rule #5

- Do not make new discussion unless the race is approved.

Reason is there are 17 discussions that you see. I on the other hand can see all 40. To make discussion I suggest first that race be in at least beta stage and by that I mean have playable map and at least some progress that people can test and give ideas. No more concepts that die after 4-5 posts. Use Race projects for concepts better.

Second there is tutorial on How to create custom race by first group owner Interceptor. These are guidelines you need to have in mind though there are a lot of things that should be considered like what abilities fit units and what heroes (also simply making OP ability and upgrade does not mean its balanced). You don't have to follow ever guideline if you can make balanced alternative. In fact it is good idea to think outside of box and make your race not clone of existing race. Also I suggest to use this system by Mephestrial for implementing new race. I may one day write more guidelines regarding what should and should not be done when making race.

Seeing as there is sudden interest again in this group I hope we all can make it functional again or at least help each other to actually create and finish new races.

 

[AIagremm]

Hello, I just came for a minute, to say that most of you are idiots who are incapable of reading the basic rules.

That is all.

 

[Tleno]

Seconded. This makes me feel nostalgic about old times, and even back then it was medicore...

 

[VeljkoM]

Let me make myself clear for the last time. No more new discussions. To get your race approved you must have playable demo. There are two Discussions for concepts already. And also let me point out that I am actually leader of this group, I am at top officer. I want this group to be serious not spam fest as Social Groups are already in bad situation and I can assure you most people on hive would like to see them removed. So please follow the painfully simple rules and show to everyone that Social Groups have potential.