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Am I the only one who hates anime?

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I dont understand why it is so popular, its just an art style with spiky hair and way too feminine men, i suppose i get why 10 year olds like it because its what pokemon is but there are adults who are fascinated with it! Its become way too big a trend, like crocs or long hair for guys, there is no reason for it! Ever time i walk into a book store there is a whole freaking section devoted to this stuff and how to draw it!

And because of it, half of all RPGs i see are based on Anime, rarely do we see an RPG like Fallout or KOTOR because they are all Final Fantasy style with magic and things.

Im just wondering if there is something im missing? Is there something amazing about it that i simply dont get?

Here's some so called anime logic that made me upset on their insult on normal cartoons,but yet their the one with less logic.

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SRSLY?! If your mother hates anime,which you love,will you kill her,just for the sake of anime hospitality? You anime fans are just too loco.



So,erm,I hope I don't get any infraction for this,because I'm just criticizing anime logic.
 

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Fuck it, I'll get slightly into it:

I don't even understand the first picture.

You can't tell the gender IRL either too bad.
This is a guy: (Mana-sama)
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It's not racist you just watch the wrong animes.
Here is the main character of the anime "afro samurai"
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And this is the main character of "jordmungand"
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The fourth picture is a joke, heard of it?

Feel free to hate anime, but please have non-retarded reasons for doing so.
 
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I won't say it is completely realistic but it is at least sometimes more realistic than cartoons. Either the storyline or the art which portrays the real life closer than cartoon's does.

About the gender differences, it is true that we can hardly differ which is female and which is male. But that won't be a big problem, will it? It's just like you're looking at a very beautiful boy in real life and you think that he's a girl.

Racism? Some anime contains tan-skinned character as well. But white characters appear more often probably because Japanese girls often have a bright skin. And it only makes sense simply because anime belongs to Japanese culture.

And the fourth picture of yours. Don't mind them, they are just stupid people.
 

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You complain about anime being bad because you can't see the gender..
But if you can't tell in real life.. why would you be able to in anime? it makes no sense.
Even if you still fail too agree with this, it's not a reason to hate anime.

If it only applies to "some" anime, why bring it up in a post that criticize anime as a whole?

I'll admit that certain anime got some really weird stuff in it, such as "Seikon no Qwaser". However that does not make all anime bad.
One bad/weird hollywood movie does not make all hollywood movies bad.

TLDR: Don't generalize.

The art-style is something you can hate anime for indeed since it applies to 99.99% of anime. That's valid, but the rest of your reasoning seems bullshit to me.
 
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Very Well.
Yes, Anime are more realistic than cartoons.

About the gender differences, it is true that we can hardly differ which is female and which is male. But that won't be a big problem, will it? It's just like you're looking at a very beautiful boy in real life and you think that he's a girl.
Agreed. That's how some Anime works

And the third picture, it is Simply because most Japanese has bright skin, so it took influence to Anime, which is our culture. Agreed with what Rheiko said.
There is many dark-skinned Anime characters, actually.

The fourth picture... well yes, there's a famous Otaku criminal back in 1980's. So yeah, it might be an influence to this stupid pictures

Well, adults here loved it! All ages loved Anime! Isn't that great?
 
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Your arguments are hasty generalizations. It's invalid
You can't make generalizations with such small sample, in fact it doesn't even represent anime as a whole. Your arguments only represents a small fraction.
Also anime isn't just only for kids.

Not everything in anime can be realistic and so does cartoon.

There times when we got confused with the genders of some characters, but its not really a problem at all.

Anime is not racist at all. Isn't it obvious because anime came from Japan and of course it would most likely reflect their culture.
Japanese see anime characters as being Japanese. It is other people who think they are white.
Also calling anime racists because of the skin tone of the characters, very great basis.

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Your last picture, that's just really a joke.
 
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I just equally love cartoons and anime.

While your arguments are this and that, there are also cartoons which contain racism or gender-unknown thing. More importantly, I believe anime just gives you 'more feels' when watching it... it's just those feels are something you're always related to and learning from something based on their experience (either be it direct or indirect). Cartoons give off the same feeling but it's outclassed by anime when you become older (not all though, some cartoons are just that great.)

That's what I think.
 

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I just equally love cartoons and anime.

While your arguments are this and that, there are also cartoons which contain racism or gender-unknown thing. More importantly, I believe anime just gives you 'more feels' when watching it... it's just those feels are something you're always related to and learning from something based on their experience (either be it direct or indirect). Cartoons give off the same feeling but it's outclassed by anime when you become older.

That's what I think.

The better cartoons such as RWBY and Avatar can easily match the popular anime series, though the cartoons I like are counted on one hand.
(okay, fine RWBY is kind of animated but it got a cartoon-ish style)
 
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I won't say that I hate anime, I just not really enjoy it. Actually what I can't enjoy is the character voice. I don't know how my brother can watch anime all day with headphone -_-
And with English dubbing it's even worse. So I much prefer manga XD

And about anime logic, it's more like animator laziness. They are really lazy, well not lazy, they make them in rush because deadlines. There are many mistake they made if you wanted to watch every detail there.

I guess I won't say much. Actually some cartoon's style are looks like anime, with less saturated color and a bit proportion thingy. In DC cartoon I watched, the style are more simpler (like anime) comparing to their older cartoon. I guess it has something to do with "modern" theme thingy (less is more, also blocky)
 
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Guys, calm down.

Sure he's bringing up some not-so-good arguments but he is asking you
to explain what he's not getting, he actually want's to know what makes
so many people like it.

I can relate, or that's to say, a younger me could relate. I absolutely hated
it myself for a very long time. And I'm pretty sure my reason for not liking
it was xenophobia, or prejudice. What little I had seen and experienced
seemed so strange, so alien, to me that it didn't make sense. And thus,
I reacted in the most basic and primal manner possible: Hate.

We always hate what we cannot understand.

The gist is to understand that anime is so much more than what you think it is,
and at the very same time not as much as you think it is. Fundamentally anime
is an art-style, just like any other art-styles are art-styles. And art-styles can be
used by anyone anywhere to create whatever reality they want to create. Such
as everything from the things you were pointing out, illogical and slightly racist,
extremely violent and even degrading images and stories. But it can also be used
to create beautiful, logical and interesting things.

It's just that it is mainly an Asian invention and mostly practiced by Asians that
makes it seem so different, and thus an adjustment phase is required to fully
accept it and understand it. Granted you are not Asian yourself.

Just as with the movie concept, there is bad and good anime, as there is bad and good
movies. There is porn movies, there is hentai anime, there is vulgar movies, there is
vulgar anime, there is philosophical, action-based and romantic movies, etc.

The best way to not hate something is to find some aspect of it that you love,
so instead of asking "what is it that I don't understand?" you should rather be
asking "what anime could I actually enjoy?" Because we all don't understand
so much.
 

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Genre is irrelevant, if it can stand on it's own merit, it is good, if it can't, it isn't. There is some good anime, and a loot of pure trash, same goes for all entertainment media.
Pretty much this. What you hate is probably the general online fandom, which is pretty much shit for any given topic. If the anime you watch doesn't chime well with you, you're probably watching the wrong stuff and probably for the wrong demographic. All anime is the same like Ren & Stimpy or King of the Hill is the same as Thomas the Tank Engine.
 
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Anime is just umbrella therm for any animation from Japan, it isn't a genre to be collectively liked or disliked, it is like saying that you hate all movies. Now why Japanese animation enjoys different treatment than western animation well lets try to see.

1) Content
Regarding story and general content anime has more genres that aim for other audiences besides little children unlike Western Animation that has stigma for being for kids only for a really long time. Because Western animation is made mostly for amusement and not for telling a story. Yes Western Animation has adult aimed cartoons but those were mostly exceptions while prejudice still remained that cartoons are for children and again even mature cartoons in western animation are often comedic in nature with mature simply meaning humor that your kid should not see. Today it is getting different but Anime still has advantage that it had way earlier more animes that targeted teen or older audiences with intention of telling stories instead of just amusement.
Also important to mention that animes being from Japan are influenced by Japanese culture and that can be sometimes hard to get used to.
Interestingly though Western animation did not started as something just for kids.

2) Appearance
Regarding appearance, anime has more limited variation than western animation and this is the reason why all anime gets lumped under one category (named anime). Even though it isn't exactly true because there are style variations between anime, but they just aren't as exaggerated like in western animation. Also anime often (not always) can suffer from "Same Face Syndrome" so characters get exaggerated hairstyles with unnatural colors and very large expressive eyes to set them apart (also it is easier). Western animation doesn't really have to worry about Same Face Syndrome, it instead needs to worry about "Are they supposed to be human?" syndrome.
Yes sometimes males can also use female anime face but this is done intentionally because either it is a young male or because it is funny, I don't know. But female looking men are not a rule at all and thinking that is just wrong and actually guys tend to have more face templates than females.
Now about "races" or as I like to think of them "skin colors" (not going to debate about it here). It is completely normal and to be expected that country without sizeable black population tends to not have black people in their media. It isn't malice it is simple because the thought never occurred because why would it?
Japanese and white people on the other hand are shown in anime to be quite similar (Americans and Europeans tend to be blonde which may lead to unfortunate implications), and of course Japanese characters lack the squinted eyes because anime depends on exaggerated eyes to convey emotions. Chinese people on the other hand (at least in older times) do have squinted eyes.

3) Anime RPGs
Oh and about Anime Rpgs? Well that is because they are made in Japan, doesn't take a genius to figure out why they look like anime. There is clear divide between JRPGs (ex. Final Fantasy) and WRPGs (ex. Dragons Age). Personally I prefer western RPGs because of gameplay since the old school JRPGs get repetitive to me after some time but that is my opinion and not a fact.

Conclusion: Reasons why someone would collectively dislike anime can be dislike of art styles and specific Japanese tropes. Valid but subjective reasons.
Now disliking specific anime genre is a completely different story but disliking one genre shouldn't make you dislike whole animation industry. Shocking surprise some anime can be crap! If you dislike super hero movies or comedies does that mean that every movie suddenly is shit and you should never watch live action media?

Yes I was very bored when I wrote this. Why did you read this?
 
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Anime is just umbrella therm for any animation from Japan, it isn't a genre to be collectively liked or disliked, it is like saying that you hate all movies. Now why Japanese animation enjoys different treatment than western animation well lets try to see.

1) Content
Regarding story and general content anime has more genres that aim for other audiences besides little children unlike Western Animation that has stigma for being for kids only for a really long time. Because Western animation is made mostly for amusement and not for telling a story. Yes Western Animation has adult aimed cartoons but those were mostly exceptions while prejudice still remained that cartoons are for children and again even mature cartoons in western animation are often comedic in nature with mature simply meaning humor that your kid should not see. Today it is getting different but Anime still has advantage that it had way earlier more animes that targeted teen or older audiences with intention of telling stories instead of just amusement.
Also important to mention that animes being from Japan are influenced by Japanese culture and that can be sometimes hard to get used to.
Interestingly though Western animation did not started as something just for kids.

2) Appearance
Regarding appearance, anime has more limited variation than western animation and this is the reason why all anime gets lumped under one category (named anime). Even though it isn't exactly true because there are style variations between anime, but they just aren't as exaggerated like in western animation. Also anime often (not always) can suffer from "Same Face Syndrome" so characters get exaggerated hairstyles with unnatural colors and very large expressive eyes to set them apart (also it is easier). Western animation doesn't really have to worry about Same Face Syndrome, it instead needs to worry about "Are they supposed to be human?" syndrome.
Yes sometimes males can also use female anime face but this is done intentionally because either it is a young male or because it is funny, I don't know. But female looking men are not a rule at all and thinking that is just wrong and actually guys tend to have more face templates than females.
Now about "races" or as I like to think of them "skin colors" (not going to debate about it here). It is completely normal and to be expected that country without sizeable black population tends to not have black people in their media. It isn't malice it is simple because the thought never occurred because why would it?
Japanese and white people on the other hand are shown in anime to be quite similar (Americans and Europeans tend to be blonde which may lead to unfortunate implications), and of course Japanese characters lack the squinted eyes because anime depends on exaggerated eyes to convey emotions. Chinese people on the other hand (at least in older times) do have squinted eyes.

3) Anime RPGs
Oh and about Anime Rpgs? Well that is because they are made in Japan, doesn't take a genius to figure out why they look like anime. There is clear divide between JRPGs (ex. Final Fantasy) and WRPGs (ex. Dragons Age). Personally I prefer western RPGs because of gameplay since the old school JRPGs get repetitive to me after some time but that is my opinion and not a fact.

Conclusion: Reasons why someone would collectively dislike anime can be dislike of art styles and specific Japanese tropes. Valid but subjective reasons.
Now disliking specific anime genre is a completely different story but disliking one genre shouldn't make you dislike whole animation industry. Shocking surprise some anime can be crap! If you dislike super hero movies or comedies does that mean that every movie suddenly is shit and you should never watch live action media?

Yes I was very bored when I wrote this. Why did you read this?

I have been waiting for this.
 
In my humble opinion, a lot of anime-haters are blinded by shounen or popular animes like One piece, Naruto, Fairy Tail, SAO etc. Meanwhile, a lot of more mature themed anime are not so well known and talked about among peers.

While the list below may/may not fit the 'mature' genre, these are the animes that in my perspective brought a lot of good messages. (please keep in mind that I don't watch anime regularly, so my list is very limited)
- Clannad (A little boring in first season, 2nd season gets better)
- Fate Zero
- Fate Stay Night UBW
- My Teen Romantic Comedy SNAFU
- Monogatari Series
- Durarara!!
- Rokka no Yuusha

and so on.

Also, animes that are adapted from visual novels generally had better content and plot, compared to those adapted from mangas, so you could try search for it.
 
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No and I will be objective AS ever (and Avatar is an exception, that is not carrying any annoyable trait).

Am I the only one who hates anime?
No... believe me, especially if you think as a planet size... you are not alone. Even I dislike, but not hate the anime "community" with few exception for their boastful, arrogant and wild attitude... do not tell me other examples, I researched this... seeking people in online and real life, and yeah there are a stereotype, which fits at least eight men out of ten.

I dont understand why it is so popular, its just an art style with spiky hair and way too feminine men
Japanese people liked Europeans, they liked to made their characters as european. In the worst animes these writers (not just japanese) create abnormal-bodied women or men... and it is only the beginning.

i suppose i get why 10 year olds like it because its what pokemon is but there are adults who are fascinated with it!
People can like warcraft or transformers or game of thrones! There are always be a people, who like a story, whatever wrong or good is that in an objective perspective.

Its become way too big a trend, like crocs or long hair for guys, there is no reason for it!
This is not necessary for mention, sorry. :D Hair is just irrelevant, if not harm any people...

Ever time i walk into a book store there is a whole freaking section devoted to this stuff and how to draw it!
As I said, numerous fanbase write the rules.

And because of it, half of all RPGs i see are based on Anime, rarely do we see an RPG like Fallout or KOTOR because they are all Final Fantasy style with magic and things

Let's see, the most known RPGs (Zelda go back to the cell! For now...)
Witcher (not anime)
Mass Effect (not anime)
WOW (not totally anime, but Mists are suspicious)
Elder Scrolls (not anime)
Diablo (wait a sec... not anime)
You have a plenty of choice above!

Im just wondering if there is something im missing? Is there something amazing about it that i simply dont get?
Western cartoons are very picture and event-based, they have no proper plot or characters, just some dumb animal, who attack the other animal or a simply deepened story by mere a level.

Here's some so called anime logic that made me upset on their insult on normal cartoons,but yet their the one with less logic.
It is made for fun like that cutscenes in Family Guy for example.

Some anime contains racism Show
Yeah, I WANT AN AFRO-AMERICAN NARUTO NOW! AND THIS ACTOR SHOULD SERVES AS A BASEMENT TO THE DRAWERS:
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In my humble opinion, a lot of anime-haters are blinded by shounen or popular animes like One piece, Naruto, Fairy Tail, SAO etc. Meanwhile, a lot of more mature themed anime are not so well known and talked about among peers.
Yeah, but the popularity of the ones bring it to the west.

these are the animes that in my perspective brought a lot of good messages.
Never denied this... :)

And for PS, yeah there are plenty of shonen stories... containing the world-destroying super-ultima-prime-mega vessels of destruction, who can destroy entire continents, but ends a fight with creased clothes.
For the another side with fool romances, one-sided annoying people and meaningless events, boring persons with unrealistic worldview, usually followed with disdain of the another outsider.
 
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oh gosh, again with this racism thing. It just shows how amero-centric world is today. Only because there are so many loud black people, doesn't mean they should be included everywhere else too. Some countries just don't have them, for example random countries like Macedonia and Latvia, except for temporary football players there are basically no black people living there (maybe a bit more because this immigrant crisis), these countries are small, rather poor and have no colonial history thus no oppression against them.

About anime, some people love and some hate japanese cartoons, like some love and some hate polish cartoons.
 
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Again to the subjectivity... :D Every topic will end on it. (And that m character is may be an interesting, if not total hilarious naruto)
 

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Anime != Anime, that's all I have to say.
There is so much fucked up stuff and as well beautiful anime with heart-warming love.
Even the style and design is very different from anime to anime.
If you say you hate anime, I dare to say you haven't tasted every kind of it.
Anime would be dead if you judge it based on Pokemon, Naruto and Yu-Gi-Oh!
Just don't do that. It is like saying you hate fruits because you hate apples.
 
In western countries, we've got the overall feel that cartoon/anime are for kids. If we look at most cartoons, they're made for kids, except a few comedy ones (the Simpsons, Southpark, etc...), same goes for animation movies, they target mainly young audiences.
Also, anime's US versions (which sometimes is used as base for EU version) are sometimes modified for younger audiences. Take 4Kids, while distributing/dubbing animes, they are also removing more 'mature' stuff from the screen (Deaths in Yu-Gi-Oh replaced by some "trapped in the shadow world" stuff, removal of guns, alcohol, cigarettes, violent scenes, etc...).

In Japan, animes aren't simply kids stuff, as there is animes for all ages/audience. As in ones for kids (Kodomo), ones for teens (Shonen/Shojo), ones for adults (Seinen/Josei). So, they're not only for kids, it just depends on the anime itself. If most people think they're for kids, that's only because we're used to cartoons and western animation movies that happen to be mainly for kids. Japanese culture is different from the European/American culture we've got.

If a lot of RPGs and games are made in an 'Anime-style', that's because they're coming from Japan (sometimes Korea too), and so yeah they've got a japanese style.
 
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If a lot of RPGs and games are made in an 'Anime-style'
Bastion, Transistor, Ori, FF, Zelda, Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm Revolution... frankly the newer ones (Witcher, GTA V, Mass Effect, Portal, Dishonored) usurped them for their "throne".

In Japan, animes aren't simply kids stuff, as there is animes for all ages/audience.
True, I saw many anime. All of them has a same trait, even if the plot and the environment is different: Admiration of European appearance and the overly-weird body traits, as well as the metaphors, which refferred to the Japanese culture of the medieval ages.
 
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It was a sense of your humour. :) So it have a sense too... :)
Or it is words and numbers, which following eachother by a strange rule. (Another sense)
 

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It was a sense of your humour. :) So it have a sense too... :)
Or it is words and numbers, which following eachother by a strange rule. (Another sense)

Hmmm I see.... *gives chocolate*
 

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You complain about anime being bad because you can't see the gender..
But if you can't tell in real life.. why would you be able to in anime? (...)
You can't...? o_O Besides a few exceptions, it's usually pretty obvious whether someone's male or female, just from the structure of someone's face/skull (and that's assuming the guy lacks a beard). Then, if you're still having doubts, you can look elsewhere... :ogre_hurrhurr:

Now, on the topic itself. I like stories where there's limits to characters' powers. When there's no way to predict where someone's capabilities end, it only becomes hard to relate to them, which just makes the story uninteresting. Because, like a friend of mine said, most good stories are made up by its characters.

There are plenty of good animes though. Why don't you try Death Note for example? Death Note is a masterpiece. If you're looking into animes with logic, that's one you've got to try. It's friggin' hard to keep up with their reasoning! Only watched it last summer, but it's easily one of my favorites right now. Its soundtrack's pretty good too.

I've got to confess I've got a bias against things like Naruto because there's no Naruto wc3 map I ever played that didn't suck. Then, the thing with naruto spellpax. Kinda suggests the majority of people who watch it aren't... committed, let's call it that.
 
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Before we start, I suggest listening to this for the complete chobiboBS atmosphere :D


I dont understand why it is so popular, its just an art style with spiky hair and way too feminine men
It didn't use to be like that, go watch 80's and/or 90's anime, you'll see that the trend was sylvester stallone + bruce lee characters, complete with the shouting and "killer stare".

The current trend is the ikemen bs that you see now.

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-== Final Fantasy ==-

Also, final fantasy used to be not about pretty boys, till it got fu... changed to something else. The magic bullshit isn't anime derived, you see shit like magic on elder scrolls games too y'know. Also, FF games didn't have magic, they had magick... okay that was a joke lol.

-== Pokemon ==-

I collected all 150 pokemon during the "Gold - Silver" era legit, and collecting it required friends with pokemon too. It wasn't just about the anime, the games were the selling point. Ash was just a mascot for the game. I always found it annoying how other kids would know what elemental weakness a pokemon had, or what the evolution tree was, without playing the game but just because they fucking watched the anime. It served no real purpose for them, but for us who have toiled to "catch 'em all!", it was something we had to know or the trainers all over kanto would fuck us up and send us back to the pokecenter, not to mention being jeered at by your peers for losing against them. In those days, my classmates who were aspiring trainers would walk up to me and say; "Master chobs, show me the way!" and I would nod...

It was just that... Ash was "super effective" as a mascot.

-== Rare Fallout-like or Kotor or BUGGY games ==-

I have to quote Delita Heiral on this one:

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... or the fucking devs.

-== Parting Words ==-

Don't commit any hate crimes, like shooting anime otaku's heads aight? Also, real men don't whine, so quit complainin' and start shovelin'... unless they were trained for... GORILLA WARFARE!

Sincerely,
Chobibo, Poketard
 
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