(2) Bay of Storms

[Nudl9]

Few notes:
-Put some obstructions between each base so players can't milita rush each other.
-Dragons 10 become available 900s in, which is roughly 2 min after main is depleted of gold. Might even be fine balance with dragons if the map is small enough.
-My opinion, have 2 dragons camps, replace labs with summer mercs.
-Put non-sleeping creep on fountain such as a golem
-I would replace mana fountain with healing fountain
-Labs that close to base is asking for disaster = sappers destroy base
-Not a big fan of mana fountain, it gives bigger advantage to blue as mana is worth way more. Also nasty for MK.
I think the map could work well with dragons.
It's a small map so games should be quick and if the games stalls then you can play with dragons.
Needs a bit of polish though and probably mirrored sides.

 

[btp|Lancer]

I added some fixes from your notes. Thank you so much for your feedback. <3. If map is okay, could you rate or mark it as "aproved"?

 

[mafe]

So..... this is a somewhat experimental map.
-Are you aware you use random groups so that the buildings spawning on each side are symmetric? I imagine if one player gets a dragon roos and the other a merc camp, it probably benefits one player more than the other.
-Random Creep look ok. They could also be made symmetric.
-If the intention with the golem at the fountains was to prevent using them during the nights, then it does not work. The golems target acquisition range is so small so that units can still get in range of the fountain on the side where the golem is not. Given the location of the fountains, you could set the target acuquision range to normal (not blue) without causing problems, and prevent this potential issue instead.
-Itemdrops are unsual. They are okay-ish, but using such itemdrops comes with downsides which you will be able to read about in my melee mapping guide, once I'm updating it (soon (tm)).
-The terrain of the map is good in some places, but has a lot of room for improvement too.
-I would prefer if there were some valuable camps in central areas of the map. Right, all creeps except for four green camps are along the edges of the map.
-It also say that a starting location is incorrectly placed?

Overall I like the creative ideas, but I think even then, some changes could be made. Therefore I'm setting it to Awaiting update for now.
You might consider changing some of the stuff I mentioned, but if have explanation why don't want to change anything, I might reconsider and approve the map.

 

[btp|Lancer]

Thank you so much for the feedback. I did not aware of random problems. I just fixed the map as you mentioned, but only grouping buildings, not creeps. The golem target acquisition is fixed as well. Now it makes more sense.
Spawning locations had a minor bug and now it works properly.

I will type all the updates on my first post.

Thanks again. It makes me improve map making a lot

 

[mafe]

Hey, if you upload a new version, consider removing the old version. Currently there are two maps available with no clear indication as to which one is the new version.

Regarding the updates on the map itself:
-Random buildings are now symmetric. Good.
-Random units: I guess no everyone will like it, but it should not be a big issue. Maybe the lvl 3 creep near the base should not be a sea giant , as this guy has anchor smash which can be mean to footies/militia.
-It seems still possible to use the fountains at night, despite there being a non-sleeping golem, if you place the units on the other side on the fountain (respective to the golem). This did not work out as I expected. Maybe add another non-sleeping creep? Not sure.
-Terrain in the shawllo water areas ist still kinda monotonous.
-The editor no longer complains about the starting positions.
-Items are ok. Any reason why dou excluded the pendant of energy and the crystal balls from dropping at the expansions?

I also noticed now that there are several small chokepoints. Consider wideing (some of) them.

So as the imho most important part (random buildings) has been fixed, I believe the map is now good enough to be approved. Still, feel free to update it, possibly considering some of the stuff I just mentioned.

 

[btp|Lancer]

I made some changes according to the map contest. Less homogeneous, less simple, some extra decoration. Just that. I fixed the cliff problems I got on central-east and central-west sides.