WoW Kil'jaeden

[Moderator]

12:43, 2nd Apr 2013
Misha: soo.. his tail is too stiff, try tinkering with a global animation to give it just a little bit of movement. also he does not disappear on death but rather gets stuck as mini-him with wings stretched up. the particle count could be a tad smaller (mainly black and green ones, you could compensate by making 'em bigger a lill?) and his portrait head could be a little bit more closer to original? works ok ingame so tend to these and it'll be good to go
a large portion of the tail is still stiff, maybe you could rearrange those tail bones to give it a better flow? and he still doesn't disappear before the death anim finishes

changes made, resource approved. good job :]

 

[JesusHipster]

Best your model so far.

 

[hemmedo]

awesome +rep....totally satisfy my needs....but do you have this one with eredar animation?..it could've been better actually in compare to dreadlord's?

 

[takakenji]

i like dreadlords better it fits for the claws

 

[hemmedo]

yea but kil'jaeden is a warlock...he is supposed to use his magical powers not claws..since there is no intelligence hero in wc3 that uses melee attack...
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...2d1268947720-takakenjis-models-kiljaeden2.png
this wip was better at that point.
still appreciated,though.

 

[Sin'dorei300]

Looks great, gj!

 

[WhiteDeath]

Very good job.5/5

 

[-Grendel]

the wings are not moving at all. given that its based on the dreadlord, you should've kept its animations. also, the kil jaeden mesh are semi transparent. minor flaw though.
i like the addition of semi transparent wings.

 

[PROXY]

Indeed, your best model.

I suggest changing the feet a bit more so they differ at least a bit of the original ones. Also, as Grendel said, animate the wings.

Oh, and make the shoulder pads a bit more epic.

 

[takakenji]

the wings are not moving at all.

i actually dont know how to animate them because when i transferred the animations they still used kil;jaedens bones not the dreadlords so there were no bones for wings, so if anyone could help me with that thatd be good

 

[takakenji]

wings now animated

 

[WindowsVistaSucks]

Should make a second version that has no legs too. That'll be cool.

 

[rcshaggy]

Should make a second version that has no legs too. That'll be cool.

That would be interesting for Warcraft III, but I do like the idea.

You sure did outdone yourself with this model as well, because it looks so different compared to the Warcraft III to the World of Warcraft one.

 

[WindowsVistaSucks]

That would be interesting for Warcraft III, but I do like the idea.

We need some boss monsters on here that are like that.

 

[Elprede]

Something does not feel right about this model. I think the head is much smaller compared to the body. Still, it is a great model.

 

[Adaethus]

Okay tested it ingame, here are a few flaws.

- It doesn't have any sort of portrait.

- Spell Slam animation plays the Firelord hero death sound near the end, which is very weird.

- Spell animation plays the heavy foot stomp sound effect.

- Lower half of the body is not affected by lighting, nor are his hands.

- Death and dissipate animations are a huge mess, also he uses the dreadlord death sound, I'm not sure whether that was intended or not.

- He seems to make quite many footprints, they all are clumped up in the same place though.

Suggestions, fix all above pointers if possible, also add the heavy foot stomp sound effect when he's walking, you know, the one aboms and Archimonde uses to make him feel more menacing.

 

[knight26]

I agree to some users saying how good this might actually look with Dreadlord animations, mesh and bones.
But fact is you did a great job with this, its very useful. And I think you should try to update it more, especially after the Doomlord Karthus's notes ^

 

[hemmedo]

what i (or we) desire;
1.Kil'jaeden leaves fiery track marks when he walks in his basic wc3 model...i dont know whether this have that or not
2.please, make it with classic eredar animations. that makes him more dominating like Doomlord Karthus talked about.
3.eredar walking sound please

 

[NelsonLaJe]

Great Job man, nice work 5/5 + REP

 

[takakenji]

Okay tested it ingame, here are a few flaws.

- It doesn't have any sort of portrait.

- Spell Slam animation plays the Firelord hero death sound near the end, which is very weird.

- Spell animation plays the heavy foot stomp sound effect.

- Lower half of the body is not affected by lighting, nor are his hands.

- Death and dissipate animations are a huge mess, also he uses the dreadlord death sound, I'm not sure whether that was intended or not.

- He seems to make quite many footprints, they all are clumped up in the same place though.

Suggestions, fix all above pointers if possible, also add the heavy foot stomp sound effect when he's walking, you know, the one aboms and Archimonde uses to make him feel more menacing.

everything fixed, except the heavy footstomps. i tried to add them, but no matter what i did they would not play the sound in game, and i have no idea what to do. if anyone could help that'd be good

also, one minor problen, the wings in the death animation do not properly shrink. i have no idea how to fix this either, and i found no problems in any geoset animations or anything, so i don't know where i'm suppose to fix this

 

[KaplanHorus]

Nice idea !

 

[Uncle Fester]

everything fixed, except the heavy footstomps. i tried to add them, but no matter what i did they would not play the sound in game, and i have no idea what to do. if anyone could help that'd be good

also, one minor problen, the wings in the death animation do not properly shrink. i have no idea how to fix this either, and i found no problems in any geoset animations or anything, so i don't know where i'm suppose to fix this

well, there's a very simple way to fix all these problems at once: just convert this guy into an .mdl model. Open a usual Dreadlord, or better Tichondrius (i think he's bigger than the usual ones) and save it as .mdl. Afterwards, mix the 2 models (Tichondrius and your Kilj) using Geoset Merger. Just make sure that the Base model is Tichondrius, NOT Kilj! The ''Geoset'' is Kilj. Geoset Merger is just aptly named. You can merge 2 entire models at once, not just one geoset. The texture path should be left empty. Texturing is easier in Magos. The Bone option can also be ignored if desired.

If you're done so far, open the result in Magos and do the texturing (Pitfall: the new model uses only one skin, but each of its geosets can get an own Material! Be aware of that . Also, keep in mind that your model will now have both meshes, Tichondrius and Kilj's. More on this at the end). When done, save your model as .mdx and open it with a program named MDLVIS (just google it). In MDLVIS, you first assign each of your model's vertices to the corresponding bone. When this is finished, delete the old mesh (Tichondrius's mesh).

After that, do all the other stuff like death sound, foot steps, foot prints, particle emitters, etc. Be warned: if the original mesh (in this case Tichondrius's mesh) is removed in MDLVIS, the corresponding Geoset Animations will also disappear, so if you have any of those, it's wise to make the new mesh use them before the old is deleted! The Material Layers & Textures from the old mesh will still be there. If finished in MDLVIS, you can additionally select the ''Optimize'' option, but this is not a must.

I hope this of help for you.

 

[takakenji]

is there any simpler way instead of having to redo a lot of the model?

reassigning every bone and doing all the textures and particles again is a lot of work

 

[timothyhuth]

I don't see why this is getting good ratings, the wings are just off of a Dreadlord and it looks like all you did was change a tiny bit of color.
1/5

 

[takakenji]

I don't see why this is getting good ratings, the wings are just off of a Dreadlord and it looks like all you did was change a tiny bit of color.
1/5

dont ever review another model please

 

[Uncle Fester]

is there any simpler way instead of having to redo a lot of the model?

reassigning every bone and doing all the textures and particles again is a lot of work

Dunno, maybe adding bones to the wings and then CnPing the values from Dreadlord's wing's rotation in the Node Manager, but this is also a lot of work if the models have different sequences. The way i gave you brings the best results, it's not the simplest, however.

I don't see why this is getting good ratings, the wings are just off of a Dreadlord and it looks like all you did was change a tiny bit of color.
1/5

Jealous or what?

 

[Lordofth3cl4n]

Amazing model 6/5!

 

[WindowsVistaSucks]

I don't see why this is getting good ratings, the wings are just off of a Dreadlord and it looks like all you did was change a tiny bit of color.
1/5

Who the shit are you?

 

[The General]

nice model good job

 

[Biggrouse]

well done

 

[Baddog_cujo]

Something does not feel right about this model. I think the head is much smaller compared to the body. Still, it is a great model.

to me the body head ratio looks pretty much the same as the wow Kil'jaeden.

good job. 4/5

 

[Conflate]

very cool model great job

 

[Heinvers]

Good indeed!

 

[MasterTrainer]

Really brings out memories of WoW... good job =D

 

[Mgeterno11]

Loons amazing, much better than the original hero. The textures are also well-done, good job. 5/5

 

[izaiphovias]

Great recreation of Kil'jaeden... He really looks a lot better like this (as he is in WoW). I just think you should change the golden colored parts of his armor to silver, the same applies to the horns, for in WoW the armor is actually more silver'ish than golden and the horns are colored as bones.

 

[Vinz]

Yeah, the head is a little big. But still, GODLIKE!

 

[Lord_Marrowgrath]

Omg 5/6 +rep!

 

[sniper_zero]

I just can't get over how awesome this model looks. Who knew an Eredar head would look so good slapped onto a Dreadlord's body? The skin tone's a bit uneven though so I think you should work on that. Other than that, why is this model still pending?

 

[DUTY OF RS]

Doesn't look like the WoW model lol.
But i like the model u created =D very good 5/5
+ The claws of his are might to sharpy?

 

[G0L3M]

LOL Kil´jaeden´s face look better in WC3 than WOW

 

[799972734]

Uhhh,I think maybe the wings are too small.Maybe it can be bigger.

 

[NelsonLaJe]

I think it would be nice if the '' Death Animition '' of Doom Guard

 

[Letgoit2]

yea but kil'jaeden is a warlock...he is supposed to use his magical powers not claws..since there is no intelligence hero in wc3 that uses melee attack...
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...2d1268947720-takakenjis-models-kiljaeden2.png
this wip was better at that point.
still appreciated,though.

where can i find this model : O

 

[DUTY OF RS]

This is my Favourite model, is use it as my Demon King model. Use it as a name; Faekomn. lol. But i really love this one and you get a 5/5 from me! =D
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[Legeon]

It's nice and great.

 

[deepstrasz]

Oh yes. Really wanted one to a least be somewhat similar to the one in the Warcraft II manual.