[Discussion] Would you be interested in working in a community project?

[Statharas]

Make the warlock suggestion into a real idea and post it on the other thread

 

[Jolly_jumper]

Make the warlock suggestion into a real idea and post it on the other thread

I'm not sure how to write it any shorter without missing important details, let me know what you think and if you have some ideas spinning around i would love to hear them!

Sry, but idk how to, also it's not a finnished idea yet, i made it as a mode suggestion instead of a seperate game and i would like to hear what others think of it before i advance on the concept just to be dissapointed because noone really like the idea to begin with
If someone wanna suggest a shorter concept based on this idea pls do so!

Edit:
Btw i thought of another possible way of executing the idea if we descide to keep the red lava line in middle
What if we just start with 2 randoms spells per player(so if the game was 10v10 they'd start with 20 random spells in each spell area) and whenever someone use a spell a new random spell will spawn in their opponents spell area meaning you should not waste spells!!^^
It would also seem even more like the actual dodgeball game

 

[Binsu]

K. 2d or 3d? CUZ I WANNA DO SOMETHING. Finally. xD

I'll try and make some warlock hero concepts... how many types of different heroes actually? 3? 10? Do all have to be warlocks or can some be mages/necromancers/etc.?


Edit: Here's a.. hmm.. ok, I suck at making concepts so instead I just drew a picture :\ it should be something like a ghost cloaked warlock with a skull... uuh.. yeah.

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There can also be the basic cloaked hooded figure warlock with no face, just blackness. It's rather cool :\

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The basic dark magician .. hmm.

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And there's a ... summon or a character to play with, I'm not sure.. it looks more like a summon. A ghost summon:

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(it should have a "squarish" ethereal cloak)

Edit 4:

I made a scarecrow.. can't find much use in it though, it could be a summon that stays on one place and throws poison or... etc.??? or a main hero to play with? Whatever:

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Nice drawing skills you have and those are interesting concepts.

 

[morbent]

Ehm.. thanks, but it's not really a concept :\ just blurry and messy drawings. Anyway.. shouldn't we start doing something for the game :?

 

[Binsu]

Ehm.. thanks, but it's not really a concept :\ just blurry and messy drawings. Anyway.. shouldn't we start doing something for the game :?

Yes, we should because I have been noticing that we keep changing ideas even how this and that user gives a good idea of a game. Because of this, we cant even make progress. Maybe yes, but little.

 

[morbent]

so.. which idea do we pick?

 

[Statharas]

I will make a poll as soon as i am done with ME3 and possibly FC3, Borderlands (1+2). And maybe Skyrim.
God, I love this new computer.

 

[Xonok]

I will make a poll as soon as i am done with ME3 and possibly FC3, Borderlands (1+2). And maybe Skyrim.
God, I love this new computer.

I like cake.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Hey guys, I found a simple yet awesome tool for you guys to easily generate ideas based from simple game mechanics (since you should ALWAYS start making a game by thinking of its mechanics first). It gets 3 mechanics in random from a list of predefined mechanics to make a game idea.

Maybe you guys could create some ideas for this community project of yours.

Linky: http://inventwithpython.com/blog/20...f-game-mechanics-and-a-random-mechanic-mixer/

I don't know where to post it so I figured out this would be a good place.

 

[Binsu]

Hey guys, I found a simple yet awesome tool for you guys to easily generate ideas based from simple game mechanics (since you should ALWAYS start making a game by thinking of its mechanics first). It gets 3 mechanics in random from a list of predefined mechanics to make a game idea.

Maybe you guys could create some ideas for this community project of yours.

Linky: http://inventwithpython.com/blog/20...f-game-mechanics-and-a-random-mechanic-mixer/

I don't know where to post it so I figured out this would be a good place.

That's very useful, Drunken Jackal! Nice job, I can easily generate ideas for out game here... +REP for the link, Drunken_Jackal!

 

[Magtheridon96]

Let's vote on a development tool.

Here's a list of ones in order of how much I like them:

• C++
• C#
• Torque3D
• Torque2D
• Cry Engine
• Unreal
• Unity

Honestly, C++ and C# are the only languages I see fit for development.
C++ because it's close to metal and still awesome because of the STL, and C# because you can use XNA for Windows development (It even works for development on X-Box).

No Java please. That language is a world of singletons, managers and factories -> Bad design

You can suggest other languages of course, I'm just putting up a couple of common ones.

 

[MasterTrainer]

I like C++... we better go for that.

 

[morbent]

I don't even know wtf those stuff are. I abstain from voting. Moose.

edit: Stath, I envy you. It's soooo coooool to play ME3 for the first time, actually all the MEs. Too bad your fun will be ruined in the end. ME1 is still the best -.-

Please skip Skyrim and Borderlands for now and post that poll xD!!

edit: AAA A! WAIT. I Know what Unity is. I vote for Unity -.- it's quite cool for 3d games. and .. simple as far as I know from some friends :\

 

[gjpaixao13]

I agree with the C# idea
Also I can help with SQL and modeling the database.(If you choose to use it of course).
And instead of XNA, I think it could be better to code in Mono XNA, as Microsoft has dropped suport for XNA on Win 8. And it could be cross-plataform too.

Here's a link http://monogame.codeplex.com/

 

[MasterTrainer]

The Unity editor is far more complex than WE, mate. It requires lots of scripting just to get the networking part right.

I remember my first time using Unity. It's freakin' complicated- more complicated than the WE. Comparing the two in terms of complexity is like comparing Jupiter to our moon.

Hehe those were the days.. =)

 

[morbent]

Oh, so I was wrong.. or my friend is really good with Unity :\ Hmm.... Whatever, I'm not gonna vote for anything actually cuz I don't understand S&^* !

 

[Metalbear]

Am I the only one to think or this thread REALLY is turning to some worthless spam? It have been like how much ... 2 months? Have anyone ever made a single icon for the game, or a moaning sound of a man who have been punched? Weird stuff indeed. xd

 

[morbent]

Yes, it does feel a bit like that Metalbear :\ so, lets just post that poll, vote and start the chosen project!

 

[Statharas]

Am still waiting for people to further refine their ideas and post them on the other thread. Meanwhile discuss the ones on the other thread.

 

[MasterTrainer]

About the other thread- what do you people think about my idea?

 

[Binsu]

About the other thread- what do you people think about my idea?

Its quite good making us Hivers the character in a game we will create.

 

[morbent]

Yeah, it's cool but, it's kinda hard to make MasterTrainer, lets go for something simple... it will probably have to be 2d cuz we got no Model and Animation makers yet.

 

[Binsu]

Yeah, it's cool but, it's kinda hard to make MasterTrainer, lets go for something simple... it will probably have to be 2d cuz we got no Model and Animation makers yet.

I fully agreed but many do suggest 3D... so will we only go for the 2d ones?

 

[MasterTrainer]

Okay if that's hard to do then will it help if I changed the idea from 3d to 2d?

 

[morbent]

Oh no, it's not that, that's a problem with all the projects, the main problem here is that the game you're aiming for is too huge and hard to make xD we need something simple like a 2d side-scroller , go fight Mobs and take coins, etc. :] at least for now.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Okay okay... how about I ask this:

I call upon Statharas! Answer thy question when thou hath the time: What hath thee think about thy project suggestion?

Okay maybe I'd refine the idea and make it easier to do?

 

[morbent]

I call upon Statharas! Answer thy question when thou hath the time: What hath thee think about thy project suggestion?

wut? I didn't understand a thing xD

 

[MasterTrainer]

wut? I didn't understand a thing xD

Translation: Statharas! Answer my question when you have the time: What do you think about my project suggestion?

Also didn't we already agree on the Warlock suggestion?

 

[morbent]

Well. most of us did, but not all... so we need that poll :\ and some people just disappeared like DSG, so we don't yet know their opinions.

 

[MasterTrainer]

OKay- let me help you.

Let's get the poll up and running. People are losing patience. Make them wait more and maybe, just maybe, they'll lose faith in whatever this discussion thread. And/or maybe the suggestion thread.

 

[Amargaard]

(...) and some people just disappeared like DSG, (...)

Others, like me, just stood by watching as the discussion continued - We're still subscribed, we still follow this thread, and we're still interested in the project

 

[morbent]

hmm ok. VOTE! Everyone who is following this thread should vote xD it will help us choose and start the project at last

There are 2 main ideas, at least for me, because they seem like the easiest and are quite interesting:

- A warlock game - Small Arena, rounds, mages fight, spells + combinations for spells, etc.
- A hack and slash - 2D, collect coins, go kill cool mobs, has a little bit of story (could be a sidescroller, it seems more fitting)

 

[MasterTrainer]

Fudge- Okay I choose warlock is the coolest for me!

*Warrior Battlecry!*

 

[Amargaard]

*cough* Or a Mario-like game would be easy too *cough*

 

[MasterTrainer]

You know what- I know what we should do.

We should totally say that one idea will be the project- but in reality, that will be a pseudo-project; so the users that agree will agree and the user's who don't will protest.

I should have PMed this idea... dear me-dear me.

 

[morbent]

What? Ok ... I wanna draw. But what for? Warlock, or a sidescroller?

Here, I drew a 2d animation some time ago.. but I suck at making such stuff, so I vote for 3D xD! And it took too much time!

Stand

Attack

A sidescroller isn't that easy Amar.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Yes finally! Go Warlock! Warlock! Warlock!

 

[morbent]

Really? You 5000% sure? Ok.

How many types of characters will there be - 12, 20? I want a variety, it's waaay cooler. Should it include Necromancers, Mages and such or only warlocks? Also, what is the land like? Dark and rough right? But, should there also be some Sunken Ruins type terrain? Will there be places where to hide from the spells like towers, barricades, etc. or plain land just like in Warlock? Is there level height (for the terrain), which will affect the spells?

Answer all my questions please -.-
We need to know the limits and what the game will look like, we need to think of the base, for example, the terrain. Depending on the terrain we can make different spells and characters... or will the terrain be just like different maps?

Edit, add: Wow, I just noticed this

A lot.

Amargaard, avtoritet, BallisticTerrain, bethmachine, bhusta, bisnar13, Chaosy, Codric, cohadar, Daffa the Mage, DaggerBreath, darkceus, Donkey Zong, Dr Super Good, Drunken_Jackal, DwarfBoy, DZerpic, Ender, Foronisus, Freyleyes, Gen Bloodhorn, GhostThruster, gjpaixao13, gorillabull, grunt, Hadeis, HammerFist132, HerrStanev, I3obo, istvan921, IwillFap2u, Jackhamme, Jake Kessler, jrhetf4xb, juno, kari0003, Kirizaru, Lordkoon, Magtheridon96, Manuval, MasterTrainer, morbent, NehUen FireSong, NFWar, OculusGamer, owwweeennn, readytoeat, Rozll0rt, SeekAndDestroy, Statharas, stonneash, supertoinkz, SupremeGrandRuler, ThisPOT, Warlock_001, Witardo, WOWWARS, xorkatoss are for YES, and Adiktuz, Almia, Archange1, Astaroth Zion, Bourbon, CheckeredFlag, DeathChef, deepstrasz, Dogac, Doomlord, Dr.Killer, DSgamer, edo494, En_Tropy, Forsaken, Geries, GhostHunter123, Hell_Master, Ironside, JaBeN, Jolly_jumper, Kala, Lichkings slave, Marsal, MassiveMaster, MaTiJa97, Metalbear, MiniMage, Miss_Foxy, Moose23, nafre, Nromk, RiotZ, rover2341, rulerofiron99, Sin'dorei300, SniZupGun, syltman, Varle, wateverks, WhiteDeath, Xonok, Yayoi for MAYBE

- please come and comment!, I'm sure you have good ideas and can help the project with models, art, animations, music, sounds, terrain, whatever you can do +.-

Edit, add 2: Actually I think that most people aren't here to help because we have nothing to show them and they are unsure if this will get to anywhere. What we need is to make something. It doesn't matter what. Yet. We can use it in almost any sort of game.. for example, some terrain, some units, etc. We need ground to step on, less clouds.

Well, that's what I think.

 

[MasterTrainer]

I also want a variety among the characters. Other classes than mages should also be included. The land should, I think, should be leveled, and should affect the spells cast. For what it looks like, use your imagination. I was thinking like the Wizard Battle in Adventure Time (if you know what that is).

 

[morbent]

Sadly I don't.


I will see what it is, but I'm kinda lazy atm

Here, some classes: Stormcaller, Elementalist, Pyromancer, Battlemage, Summoner, Cultist, Magician, Spellbreaker, Spellbinder, Warlock, Wizard, Priest, Shaman, Druid, Wanderer, Illusionist.

(Some were taken from Titan Quest, but we can change them :\)

 

[Statharas]

Okay okay... how about I ask this:

I call upon Statharas! Answer thy question when thou hath the time: What hath thee think about thy project suggestion?

Okay maybe I'd refine the idea and make it easier to do?

Thy idea isth as horrid as a mane pierced by thy pikemen's halberds.

 

[MasterTrainer]

Sage, Tenebromancer (dark), Cyromancer (ice), Lumenomancer (light), Aeromancer (wind), Geomancer (Earth), Dynamancer (Energy/Lightning), Hydromancer (water)

Others:
Spellcrafter, Enchantress, Changeling/Shapeshifter, Invoker, Planeswalker, Sage, Pure Mage, Archmage and the Artificer (of Artifacts)

What do you think?

 

[morbent]

I'd rather use these Spellcrafter, Enchantress, Changeling/Shapeshifter, Invoker, Planeswalker, Sage, Pure Mage, Archmage cuz the others are from one type and if we add someone like, Mage, for example, he just wouldn't fit with the others. Pure Mage and Archmage, lets just use Archmag. Better, use Changeling, Shapeshifter s more like a druid.

 

[MasterTrainer]

I'd rather use these Spellcrafter, Enchantress, Changeling/Shapeshifter, Invoker, Planeswalker, Sage, Pure Mage, Archmage cuz the others are from one type and if we add someone like, Mage, for example, he just wouldn't fit with the others. Pure Mage and Archmage, lets just use Archmag. Better, use Changeling, Shapeshifter s more like a druid.

Cool, cool. =)

 

[morbent]

Ok, I'll try to draw some stuff tonight, but I got some SchoolWork to do so... :\ yeah, f*** that school.

also, I have one question: can some of the casters be non-humanoid? Like the Changeling? Or.. humanoid, but not that much

 

[MasterTrainer]

Actually having some non-humanoid characters can make the game a little different from the other games =)

 

[Jolly_jumper]

I think we should either make more basic/undefined ideas for the poll so there aren't too many options, or ppl should be able to vote for several ideas.

How many types of characters will there be - 12, 20? I want a variety, it's waaay cooler. Should it include Necromancers, Mages and such or only warlocks? Also, what is the land like? Dark and rough right? But, should there also be some Sunken Ruins type terrain? Will there be places where to hide from the spells like towers, barricades, etc. or plain land just like in Warlock? Is there level height (for the terrain), which will affect the spells?

The heroes could be any magical being as far as i'm concerned, but choice of heroes should definitely come before you descide on what type of terrain, the hero races would certainly affect that descision!^^
If we go for the Warlockbased gameplay the variety would not be in the different heroes but in the spells and terrain, especially if we wanna make the heroes different from eachother, but still keep them balanced.
I would suggest just making 3-4 heroes for start and possibly add some more later, spells however there should be plenty of!
The more spells the more difficult the balance, but i think thats gonna be fun though, if we get to the finer balance stage it means the project is a success imo
Balancing is an endless task which you can never really finnish from start, atleast not if you plan on adding to the game later which i hope we would be doing

Destructible barricades is pretty important to achieve variation both in terrains and gameplay, and there are plenty of those in warlock, the pillars
We could have other types aswell though, like walls or objects with certain special effects like teleporting the spells that go through to a certain point, deal massive AoE dmg to surrounding heroes when it gets destroyed etc.

I don't think there should be level height difference though, that'd make for alot of extra problems i think, and possibly make it very inconsistent

I think the ideas we have should be narrowed down smth like this:
-RPG game with chars based on Hive members
-RTS game
-Hack'N'Slash mariostyle
-Warlockbased gameplay

With links to the more elaborate descriptions

 

[MasterTrainer]

disagree to not agree =)

 

[Statharas]

There's a spot left for the poll, better clean up the warlock idea and post it there.
Ralle told me we can have around 20 choices

 

[MasterTrainer]

20 choices? Nice =)

I think one choice now is the Warlock idea...