Which is better Wii Or Xbox

[brad.dude03]

Exactly, it's a matter of preference. Each system has its flaws and its strengths and it depends on what your looking for. Both are good in their own ways. PS3 just sucks eggs. Rotten eggs.

 

[Durgon]

Well I havent gotten the xbox360 or the wii. So im just gonna say what I think about both. I think its awsome that the developers of the Wii are trying some new and different, when I first saw how you had too move around with the remote thing I was pretty stunned. However the Xbox360 look awsome with the new graphics and awsome games, Ive always been an xbox fan because there controllers were great for FPS games (Which I love), and the games appealed too me. So in my opinion its the xbox360.

 

[demonsofdante]

People seem to have the misconception that the Wii's motion control is solely for exercise. Wrong.

THe motion sensor was created to add a new type of gameplay to consoles and expand and peak beyond the horizon of button mashing console games. Wii boxing is the only game that causes any sort of aerobic work out. Other games have very basic movements that succeed in expanding gameplay. Point down while pressing A in DBZ causes you to trip your opponent, while pointing up causes an uppercut.

The shooting games take a good while to get used to but when youre done with that, its a nice change from the analog turning and aiming on other consoles.


The defining factor between Wii and Xbox is the games. Graphics only matter so much. Whats the point at lookign at real life detail and image clarity when you cant stand playing the game for 20 minutes at a time? The only Xbox game i hear about is Gears of War, which i hear is extremely short. (Lost Planet looks awesome but dont know anything about gameplay)

So far I have been extremely pleased with my Wii and accumulated over 200 hours on it the first month i had it (During school and homework). I'm looking forward to Mario Universe and the new Metroid game, and will probably play those nonstop untill i beat them. The sheer awesomeness of Super Smash Bros. makes me drool and is the sole reason i got the Wii.


At the moment it is all about potential as their positive and negative values pretty much equal out. What each company plans to do with the system and what games will be released for them will determine the success of the platform. Nintendo's games always simmered down after the initial release and the quality would declien greatly (Gameboy Barbie). If they dont make the same mistake with the Wii, it will continue to dominate as a console game.

 

[Mun'ki]

The defining factor between Wii and Xbox is the games. Graphics only matter so much. Whats the point at lookign at real life detail and image clarity when you cant stand playing the game for 20 minutes at a time? The only Xbox game i hear about is Gears of War, which i hear is extremely short. (Lost Planet looks awesome but dont know anything about gameplay)

Well it's always been said that Nintendo go for game play over graphics, but sometime crappy graphics make a game look good for example Wind Waker

 

[Numeror]

I've Seen the Wii and the xbox360 and i must tell you the xbox 360 is far better then the Wii. Just look on the tv show called game kings.

 

[MetalWarrior]

Well, I played both, and they are each as good as the other.
I like Wario Ware Inc. and Gear of War ^^

 

[EviL_BuddhA]

Consoles dont get me as rilled up as a pc theres nothing like playing in a torniment game best of 3 and your tied 1 to 1 your hands shake you start to have cold sweats and if you lose you may have to buy a new keyboard... you never get that experiance on a console game its a good thing and a bad thing but would never change fast paced stratergy games for a motion sensor controller or ok graphics of the xbox... im sorry to say but PC pwns so so much i played on xbox live and listening to 12 year olds high pitched voices are the most annoying thing ever(no offence to any 12 year olds out there) you dont get the option to not hear them without typing in there name that is long and stressfull!

it goes PC>WII>XBOX360
Gameplay over graphics you all agree with that beacouse were still
modding and playing a very very old game....(best rts ever made)

 

[Mun'ki]

He's right

 

[00m9]

Like ive said before Xbox is probably twice as good in graphics comapred to the wii. Its gamepaly its great etc. etc.
Wii is something so original. The funny thing about nintendo is they make all kinds of crazy krap. They made this 1 thing called the virtual boy it was a pair of goggles or a visor that yu put on your face. Its completly red and actually caused eye problems...Anyways ithink the Wii is 10x mroe original then Xbox. I also think bill gates need to stop making money becuase hes already at the point were he cant run out.

 

[NovaBlade]

My personal opinion:

Wii)
Good points - Inovative. Good internet connection (supposidly). New styles of games due to the Wiimote. Great price.
Bad Points - Poor graphics. Developers have just started realizing that the Wiimote isn't all its cracked up to be, and is actually rather poor technology wise. Not very powerful.
Bottom Line - You get what you pay for. The console is a good price, but not very powerful (15 times less powerful than the PS3). The Wiimote itself is a very innovative idea, but Nintendo just didn't do enough to make it work right. It messes up to often.

XBox 360)
Good Points - XBox Live FTW. Excellent games (Dead Rising!). Has a year headstart on all the other systems allowing it to have a much larger selection of games and giving developers more time to learn how to code for it to optimize it. Very powerful, even if not as powerful as the PS3.
Bad Points - A bit on the expensive side. Controller is not motion sensitive, but by the same not it does have vibration. Not innovative in any way, just a powerful system.
Bottom Line - It is what console gaming is supposed to be; powerful, simple, has excellent multiplayer capabilities and is fun.

In the end, I'd take the 360 over the Wii any day. I'd have to think hard of which one I'd want more though between the PS3 and 360, and I'd take a strong computer over all 3 systems combined any day of the week and twice on saturday.

 

[Mun'ki]

Hang on, good gameplay makes a game worthwhile, coupled with good graphics
But if we go Graphics over gameplay, then there really is no point to having a game other than to look at it

 

[Dr Super Good]

Ok I dropped from this convisations long ago but have returned. . .
I won an X box 360 for free recently at school and so will be able to experience one next week, when I receive it.

Wii seems ok but like I said can cause injuries and also skill is not a limating factor, fitness is.

X box 360 has better graphics and HD support which wii owners can only dream of and has a traditional controler system and so might appeal better if you are a less physical person.

The WII has good socal games and arcade support for fans of old games (like mario 64) but lacks your more realistic high res games (oblivion is but a dream for wii owners)

The X box 360 has alot of high quality graphics and better FPS than the WII but has less social games and also has limated free MP support.

Now my personal reviews.
Nentendo has gone a bit crazy with is now SSBB which features too many non cartoon like characters. Controler probably is a pain if you are slow and lack cordination and the graphics match that of my computer (hardly next generation)

Microsoft is too FPS orintated and has no good rpgs on their system like FF and oblivion is infinatly better on computer. The controler is old style so you can probably get used to it easily. The graphics are next generation, supporting HD tvs (only new ones) and hiqh quality settings.

But why I like computers better. . .
The WII is noticably under powered with no HD support and also the graphics lack aa or highly advanced lighting (it has decent but it is noticable that the lighting / shading is weaker than for 360 games).
The X box uses only DX9. . . Yes it uses DX9 which vista replaces with DX10 which can run up to 16% faster. Also vista comes with many drivers the X box 360 uses to replace the weaker XP versions and so in the next few years vista games can be expected to supass thoes of the 360 and even the PS3 as cards like the Geforce 8800 have shown (and that was only the FIRST DX10 card, better will come soon).

But if you are a less violent person, get WII since it has a larger range of harmless games.

If you like FPS or high quality graphics, get Xbox 360.

(off topic)
Now I have a 360, what shell I do with it? pah im sure ill find a game for it eventually.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

Seriously, quit with all the "The Wii disadvantages the physically unfit" for God's sake, you can't possibly be so damned fat that you can't move your arms to swing a controller a tiny bit. It is a completely ridiculous argument, and I have seen overweight people play Wii as easily as a thin person, and love it just as much.

And no, fitness doesn't tell you how good you do in a game on the Wii, it still relies on coordination, practice, and good skill, just like all older games. I mean, hand a controller to Arnold Schwarzenegger and tell him to play Wii bowling, according to you, he should be able to bowl a perfect 300, where as one of my overweight friends who has months of practice with the game should get a flat out 0.

Obviously this is not the case, and if you think it is, then you are clearly mentally ill.

 

[brad.dude03]

I completely agree with Chriz. All of this shit about the Wiimote causing injuries is TOTAL BS spun out by the media to give Nintendo some bad play. You'd have to be a total fucking creit to injure yourself WITH A GAME CONTROLLER. It's not that hard to use it correctly. Just tighten the bloody wrist strap, and hey, holy shit! It stays on! I never would have thought of that! I played the Wii for MANY hours over the course of a weekend at a LAN party, and never did the controller come out of my hands, and the band never came off, and my hands were no more sore afterwards then they were before. The very owner of this Wii console that I was playing on is overweight, and he manages to get along just freaking fine. And it all comes down to what you want:

Xbox 360: Great visuals, lots of horsepower (outdated horsepower now) and some good, solid games (gears of war, halo 3 anyone?). XBL is pretty sweet. HD doesn't really make much of a difference unless you plan on using the console as a media center....

Wii: Amazingly fun games, lots of classics, support for all the old ROMS steadily growing, innovative and terribly fun controller, jaw droppingly low price, and great fun all around.

PS3: Not even in this contest. The biggest waste of money on the market.

So it all comes down to it: Do you want nothing but graphics and horsepower? Or do you want fun, innovative and creative gameplay, for a great price. Everyone's different, except if you're a PS3 owner. I despise you if you're a PS3 owner because you just wasted a ton of money. Even more so if you think that the PS3 is the best console out there. Sony fanboys are total n00bs, Sony is crashing and burning and the PS3 is a gigantic flop, sort of like the PSP, eh? Trounced once again by Nintendo, with the help of Microsoft, this is another day where poo is held under the nose of the Sony execs... just about every day is this way for those n00bcakes.

 

[Trunkz]

It is well known that thousands of people world wide are reporting major injuries caused by playing the wii.
Theses include broken wrists, fingers, cut hands, and damage to the head.
It is also well known that people have made them selves sick playing the wii as the one kid im my class reports himself getting a migrane after playing the wii for too long. YES health and safety say if you feel dizzy take a rest but few obey it.
I once sprained my arm and although I could move my hand fine to type with I was unable to lift my arm up for about 1 month.
During that time I could still play game cube or wc3 or even Xbox 360 if I had wished or owned one.
But with the wii I would be unable to move my arm and thus would be unable to play games that require 2 controlers.

Also it gives a UNFAIR handicap for people who are phicialy unfit. On a computer all you need is to be able to move the mouse and type (hardly straining) and even for the gamecube all you had to do is move your fingers and that was all. I can play nonestop on the computer for 3 hours as I proved in the one Empire Earth game where I had a player speed of <300 (clicks per minute)
But people from my class who are alot fitter than me say that they felt tired after 30 minutes of playing and had to take a hour long rest and they are easily able to run around a football field for hours.

It was on the german news that over 300 people had some accdent involving playing the wii in germany alone in the first week of it being out. These include broken limbs and cut arms (YES someone did break a window playing wii by punching it accdently).

Also on local radio atleast 30 reports of wii injuries were reported and this is LOCAL not even for the entire country. . .

And I admit I never played on the wii since where I live they do not have alot of demos (alteast in places that do not make me feel ill) and so I never touched one.
But I have seen them in use and yes I have seen Wario Ware: Smooth Moves be played on TV and it seems not very fun seeing that it is compriesed entirly of mini games what require stupid hand movements to be done fast (AGAIN disadvantaging the unfit) so with that I rest my case.

Currently the only thing I think nentindos phicical movement has created which is good is the DS since the touchpad gives great divercity and allows for games to use it like a mouse.

Also I fear the wii in some ways since if it proves to reduces obecity it could become a manditory thing to poses where I live but this is beside the point and also is not supported by facts.

This is only my opinion and so no one needs to agree with it but it is strongly how I feel.

can someone say I exagerate a little to much?? Im totally over weight and i can play the Wii for hours... and unfair? all u do is move your arms around... most ppl move just as much being so hyper playing video games... So dont come here with all that crap...WiiALL THE WAY!!!!!!

 

[brad.dude03]

Totally agree, as I said above, the shit about injuries caused by the Wii is a total load of bullshit. And how does the Wii give you a migrane? The visuals are no different then those of any other console... so this friend of yours, dr. super good, must be a total fucking liar, or he was having a seizure caused by the nice pwetty flashy colours.

 

[VampireHeart]

Wii kicks X Box's booty all day long! Whats so new about stationary controlers? Motion cencer is the way of the FUTURE!

 

[brad.dude03]

It's spelt 'sensor' not 'cencer' but anyway. And Xbox is good, but that's if you want lots and lots of horsepower, amazing graphics and some good games. The Wii is for people that want a fun console with amazing games, and they couldn't give a rats ass about how the graphics look or not. Wii innovates with new ideas, but Xbox makes the best out of old ones.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

I completely agree with Chriz. All of this shit about the Wiimote causing injuries is TOTAL BS spun out by the media to give Nintendo some bad play. You'd have to be a total fucking creit to injure yourself WITH A GAME CONTROLLER. It's not that hard to use it correctly. Just tighten the bloody wrist strap, and hey, holy shit! It stays on! I never would have thought of that! I played the Wii for MANY hours over the course of a weekend at a LAN party, and never did the controller come out of my hands, and the band never came off, and my hands were no more sore afterwards then they were before. The very owner of this Wii console that I was playing on is overweight, and he manages to get along just freaking fine. And it all comes down to what you want:

Xbox 360: Great visuals, lots of horsepower (outdated horsepower now) and some good, solid games (gears of war, halo 3 anyone?). XBL is pretty sweet. HD doesn't really make much of a difference unless you plan on using the console as a media center....

Wii: Amazingly fun games, lots of classics, support for all the old ROMS steadily growing, innovative and terribly fun controller, jaw droppingly low price, and great fun all around.

PS3: Not even in this contest. The biggest waste of money on the market.

So it all comes down to it: Do you want nothing but graphics and horsepower? Or do you want fun, innovative and creative gameplay, for a great price. Everyone's different, except if you're a PS3 owner. I despise you if you're a PS3 owner because you just wasted a ton of money. Even more so if you think that the PS3 is the best console out there. Sony fanboys are total n00bs, Sony is crashing and burning and the PS3 is a gigantic flop, sort of like the PSP, eh? Trounced once again by Nintendo, with the help of Microsoft, this is another day where poo is held under the nose of the Sony execs... just about every day is this way for those n00bcakes.

I have a newfound love for you brad. <3

 

[MetalWarrior]

WOOOOOOOOTTT
Wii injury? Those persons just have to control their own movements. XD
It'S not the fault of the Wii if their too dumb to play it safely.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Why is everyone so pro WII?
Everyone thinks the controlers are ok but if they are ok why did people in factories used to get repetive stress syndrome which was caused by moving their arms in a simlar way continously?

The WII is still to new for people to prove medical issues but as other objects (not nescacarily game systems), once tested for 10 years, have been proventhat health issues can occure.

When the TV was first made, no one had any idea that sitting to close to one can perminatly damage your eyes.
When radioactive elements were discovered no one had any idea that they could harm people.
Only recently have vegetables been proven to reduce the lightly hood of medical issues like cancer.

And anyway it was only one in a huge list of things and you KEEP GOING FOR THAT PART OF WHAT I SAY!
The WII is not the 1337 of the game systems, it is a box which produces low res 3D graphics but with decent complexity.
Can a WII be programed to run supreme commanders? no since it is too week (not strong enough).
It is good for simple graphic rpgs like FF10-12 would work great on it (if they were made), party games like mario party, sport games like golf, low powered FPS like a res evil or 2, ,and many misc game types.

There is no way you will find oblivion going to WII or sonic the hedgehog (for PS3 and X box 360) going to WII.
Maybe some old strat games could be exported like empire earth or starcraft but no ways will it run anything top of the range for PC even if it was well exported.
SO everyone stop being so for WII since it is not the best, they all have advantages and dis advantages and with the WII it is noticably the controler and power which is a disadvantage.

All other consoles also do have dis advantages so do not think im crule to WII or anything but since everyone is talking about WII here, there is no point of mentioning other concels.
Also the controlers could easily be made for a computer since all they are are a piece of hardware which when made right could be attached to a computer to give a computer the same WII controler motion capabilites.
WII is best if you have an out of date PC with limated money since it gives you "semi" next gen graphics at a reasonable price.

Why cant people just max a big box and call it the "wii playbox 4D" which is your computer, ps3, ps2, ps1, game cube, wii, X box and Xbox 360. . .
Since im sick of all theses Which is better descussions where wii fan boys keep replying in.
And did anyone even bother reading the rest of my post past the part I talked about the controler?

And I am the first to admit that PCs are not the best since my PC is giving me shit with supreme commanders (crashing every min ingame) but no ways is the WII the best.
Also remember that a PC can emulate all old consles for free which you normal have to pay for on the WII.
I hope very much that SSBB for the WII uses the game cube controlers otherwise the only reason I will get a WII for is if some mega good game magicaly is made for it or my game cube breaks since a WII emulates one.

Now enough with the WII fan boys.
PS3 is not a waste of money, it is still new and YOU try buying a blueray player + supper computer now?
You can easily run into 1500£ to make a computer as strong as a PS3.
Only problem with PS3 is the lack of games and programability issues which will soon be fixed.

And like I said ALL OLD ROMS can be run one a computer and played even better than on their orignal systems them selves.
And yes the XBOX 360 is out powerd now, but by what? YOU GUESSED IT! Windows vista with slied nvedia gefore 8 8800 XGTs, quad core processor and 4 gb of ram.
That should max all games in existence for the computer with AA up to 16 and AF up to 32 for all games that are older than 1 year.

Now take into account the games more!
Price is one thing but is is not everything since with the WII you get what you pay for, maybe not game wise but graphic wise.
Now hope this has enlightened everyone and if you actualy BOTHER to read this before replying, think carefully and not "OH my WII is uber since it has the game types I like".

And DO NOT think im the only one who is not a major WII fan boy, many people in my classes say the X box 360 beats WII by far and they own BOTH.
And currently the only reason I am going to own an X box 360 is due to an event I won at school and normaly I would not own any since they have no good games.

A mod should close this topic since it has dragged on for long enough and is engouraging flamming and abuse, and thoes are not polite.

 

[Burger_Bling]

Brad and Chriz are right. WHO THE HELL WOULD INJURED BY A FREAKIN CONTROLLER. And Wii has some great games. I hate First-Person-Shooters but now with the Wii I LOVE THEM and Wii is the scratching the surface of Virtual Reality(Thats good).Xbox 360 has some awsome games with sweet graphics like Oblivian but Wii all the way

 

[Em!]

Jesus is this still going on, ehm who cares ur arguements isn´t going to make a diffirence.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

I still say your arguments are bullshit. And you keep saying that the Wii isn't good enough to run high graphics games and such, maybe that's because it wasn't intended to be a graphics powerhouse? OMG NO WAI.

Nintendo isn't one for games like oblivion and supcom, that's not their style. And why should they bring these onto their system, when people who like those games can get an Xbox or computer instead? Seriously, no system is going to have every game known to man, I could say the Xbox has no Mario or Zelda games, and as such it sucks. Same argument.

And you keep saying also that the controller is a disadvantage, the system was made based around the damn controller for crying out loud! That's the whole point and appeal this system has, can you not see it?

And stop bringing computers into this discussion, this is talking about consoles, of course you can upgrade your computer into a monster, but this isn't the case with consoles.

And ever think that maybe it's not Wii fanbois, but just that you (for some strange unknown reason (maybe your cat died from a flying wiimote or something)) have an extreme dislike for the Wii, without even playing it? (At least that's what I think from what you've posted before.)

 

[brad.dude03]

OMG NO WAI.

ROFL. Just to add to what Chriz has said, the PS3 is an amazing flop. The thing is NOT anywhere near being a supercomputer, the cell technology sucks, and all it has is more floaters then the 360, which are completely useless when it comes to games. It has 7 cores... zomfg whoopee... the number of cores doesn't matter unless you want to run a ton of shit at once, for games it doesn't make much difference. The Xbox's TriCore processor totally owns the PS3. Shitty games, shitty price and shitty bugs make this another reason for the Sony execs just to commit suicide and rid the world of their filth ahead of time.

The ONLY reason that Sony is still in business as I speak (who knows, they might have filed for bankruptcy by now, one can only hope) is because people are buying the console to use as a Blu-Ray player. It is far cheaper then the cheapest Blu-Ray player available on the market, so if you're a noob and you choose blu-ray over HD-DVD, well good for you, you're a noob.

 

[Mecheon]

Why is everyone so pro WII?
Everyone thinks the controlers are ok but if they are ok why did people in factories used to get repetive stress syndrome which was caused by moving their arms in a simlar way continously?

So people in factories used to move their arms rapidly to achieve things while pointing a TV-remote like thing at them to accomplish things?? Based upon this I'm guessing repetitive stress syndrome was suffered heavily by sword fighters in the medieval era

The WII is still to new for people to prove medical issues but as other objects (not nescacarily game systems), once tested for 10 years, have been proventhat health issues can occure.

When the TV was first made, no one had any idea that sitting to close to one can perminatly damage your eyes.
When radioactive elements were discovered no one had any idea that they could harm people.
Only recently have vegetables been proven to reduce the lightly hood of medical issues like cancer.

All completely irrelevant to this conversation

And anyway it was only one in a huge list of things and you KEEP GOING FOR THAT PART OF WHAT I SAY!

Fine, I'll tear apart your entire post

The WII is not the 1337 of the game systems, it is a box which produces low res 3D graphics but with decent complexity.

No, its a box which produces awesome gameplay

Can a WII be programed to run supreme commanders? no since it is too week (not strong enough).

Never heard of the game, therefore it must suck. However, I presume that the Wii could infact be programmed to run it. I see no evidence towards the Wii being not strong enough to run this game, seeing as you haven't provided anything ABOUT this game

It is good for simple graphic rpgs like FF10-12 would work great on it (if they were made), party games like mario party, sport games like golf, low powered FPS like a res evil or 2, ,and many misc game types.

You fail for calling Resident Evil a FPS. Also, FF12 is HARDLY a "simple graphic rpg"

There is no way you will find oblivion going to WII

Is that because its Microsoft's product pretty much?

or sonic the hedgehog (for PS3 and X box 360) going to WII.

Funny how the Sonic game on the Wii is one of the most universally well accepted Sonic games recently, while the PS3/X Box one sucks, according to ALL accounts. You'll have a hard time finding someone who LIKES that waste of development time that is the XBox360/PS3 one

Maybe some old strat games could be exported like empire earth or starcraft but no ways will it run anything top of the range for PC even if it was well exported.

Neither will any console, EVER. PCs will ALWAYS be far more powerful than a console

SO everyone stop being so for WII since it is not the best, they all have advantages and dis advantages and with the WII it is noticably the controler and power which is a disadvantage.

So the Wii's most widely loved feature, the controller, is apparantly a disadvantage? Bizzare

All other consoles also do have dis advantages so do not think im crule to WII or anything but since everyone is talking about WII here, there is no point of mentioning other concels.

Your choice. Less for me to rip into

Also the controlers could easily be made for a computer since all they are are a piece of hardware which when made right could be attached to a computer to give a computer the same WII controler motion capabilites.

Prove it. Go and design a motion-controlled PC remote

WII is best if you have an out of date PC with limated money since it gives you "semi" next gen graphics at a reasonable price.

Once again, you put too much weight on graphics. You're understating the Wii's power heavily, seeing as I would easily consider Twilight Princess to be full next-gen and not your limited one

Oh, and the Wii's also great for those of you who want to play fun games

Why cant people just max a big box and call it the "wii playbox 4D" which is your computer, ps3, ps2, ps1, game cube, wii, X box and Xbox 360. . .
Since im sick of all theses Which is better descussions where wii fan boys keep replying in.

Simple economics is why. Sony's ignoring them with its overpriced PS3

And did anyone even bother reading the rest of my post past the part I talked about the controler?

You've posted a lot of posts about the controller. They generally all tend to use faulty logic, so you'll need to point out which one exactly

[quote[And I am the first to admit that PCs are not the best since my PC is giving me shit with supreme commanders (crashing every min ingame) but no ways is the WII the best.[/quote]

Funny how this was a debate between the 360 and the Wii and not PCs, isn't it?

Also remember that a PC can emulate all old consles for free which you normal have to pay for on the WII.

Funny how your "free" version is actually illegal, and the Wii is using the legal method. You're merely stating here that its better to steal a game from a store as opposed to paying for it

I hope very much that SSBB for the WII uses the game cube controlers otherwise the only reason I will get a WII for is if some mega good game magicaly is made for it or my game cube breaks since a WII emulates one.

Your loss

Now enough with the WII fan boys.

Only when you stop with your faulty logic and untruths

PS3 is not a waste of money, it is still new and YOU try buying a blueray player + supper computer now?

Well, that'd be expensive, but I hardly see how it relates here. I mean, if I brought a PS3, then I wouldn't have a super computer, but instead just have a glorified BluRay player, which could turn out useless if BluRay looses the current format war

I'd prefer just buying a super computer on its own as opposed to a glorified BluRay player, thank you very much

You can easily run into 1500£ to make a computer as strong as a PS3.
Only problem with PS3 is the lack of games and programability issues which will soon be fixed.

I bet I could make a better computer than the PS3 for less than a PS3

And like I said ALL OLD ROMS can be run one a computer and played even better than on their orignal systems them selves.

Guess what? THAT'S STILL ILLEGAL!

And yes the XBOX 360 is out powerd now, but by what? YOU GUESSED IT! Windows vista with slied nvedia gefore 8 8800 XGTs, quad core processor and 4 gb of ram.

Vista sucks. That is all

That should max all games in existence for the computer with AA up to 16 and AF up to 32 for all games that are older than 1 year.

... So wait, you want people to go BACK to already developed games and reprogram them to use systems which not everyone has?

Fail

Now take into account the games more!
Price is one thing but is is not everything since with the WII you get what you pay for, maybe not game wise but graphic wise.

I got more than what I payed for with my Wii games

Now hope this has enlightened everyone and if you actualy BOTHER to read this before replying, think carefully and not "OH my WII is uber since it has the game types I like".

Ok, I'll just stick to "Jeez, Super Good's faulty logic hurts my BRAIN so much that I'm going to have to publically embarress him

And DO NOT think im the only one who is not a major WII fan boy, many people in my classes say the X box 360 beats WII by far and they own BOTH.
And currently the only reason I am going to own an X box 360 is due to an event I won at school and normaly I would not own any since they have no good games.

Good for people in your class. The fact is that you brought the PS3 into this argument and haven't provided one lick of evidence to support it. If people in your class came here and backed up their evidence, there wouldn't be any argument. The fact is you're attempting to support something which most of the Internet loathes

Also, the XBox360 has plenty of good games

A mod should close this topic since it has dragged on for long enough and is engouraging flamming and abuse, and thoes are not polite.

I'm tempted to, but I just wanted to point this out. You know, incase I close it directly after this post to get the last laugh in?

But I won't. I'm not always like that

 

[brad.dude03]

Mecheon pretty much summed it up. I did make a very long reply such as this, but it got deleted in the server merge. Oh well, Mech summed it up anyway.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

Aye, what Mech said.

 

[MetalWarrior]

PAWNED!!! XD
really, that must strike hard. lol

 

[GST_Nemisis]

i read a quote about the wii remote being hard to replicate for the pc, well infact the pc had a version of the wii remote AGES before it came out. it was called the gyration mouse and was very very unpopular. it was more of a novelty than a mouse but it was still very cool. here is a sweet artical about a nintendo power glove/gyration mouse hybrid which is like a glove version of the wii remote:

http://www.zerosign.net/index.php/powerglove-mouse/

and here is a wii version that has only recently been made....

http://www.slashgear.com/wii-power-glove-092860.php

as you can see the gyration mouse version has been around for alot longer and is considerably cooler because it actually took alot of inginuity and skill to make, where as the wii version is just a wii remote with some hacked buttons...

finally here is a gyration mouse, just incase you wanted to by one:

http://www.gyration.com/en-US/ProductDetail.html?modelnum=GC1005M&accshow=3

if you havent realised by now, the wii remote was built on this pre-existing tech. i wouldnt be surprised if nintendo made a deal with thompson (who make the gyration mouse on that site i posted) to get the circuit design, im sure they are too lazy to built one from scratch.....to much research, too much money. still there you go, u want a wii remote for ur pc? well theres one called they gyration mouse or just get a wii remote and plug it into ur pc :roll:

and FYI supreme commanders is perhaps one of the greatest games every made and as a gamer you should know what it is, it is the sequal to a game called total annihilation which was the first one of the first games to use 3D models and was the first RTS to have 3D graphics and landscapes. it also started a whole generation of modding concepts and is to this day one of the best games of all time, like goldeneye, you heard of goldeneye? you should know this stuff.

 

[brad.dude03]

Goldeneye is wtfpwn by the way. Aside from Mario Kart, Super Mario 64, Mario Party 1 through 2, Shadows of the Empire and Rogue Squadron 3D, Goldeneye is one of the best games ever made. Then there were a whole ton that I liked like Starwars Podracing and Lego Racers (damn was that game fun xD). Nintendo sure was successful with that N64. Hopefully rhe Wii will turn out better then the Gamecube anyway, as not even Nintendo's greatness could make me buy that thing.

 

[Deleted member 126647]

Gtfo, I loved Gamecube to death, still do.

 

[brad.dude03]

Meh, gamecube was underpowered, too colourful and din't have many good games. And Mario Sunshine blew freaking chunks. Nowhere near as good as Super Mario 64. Xbox was the better way to go then, and the way my xbox is now (hacked up to the extreme) I regret nothing.

 

[demonsofdante]

I hope Nintendo's not gonna make the same mistake they made with the GC, in releasing all the good games at once, and leaving nothing left to play in the following months.

Gamecube had Super Smash brothers, Mario Sunshine (Which was fun until halfway through), and that was pretty much it. Hopefully we'll continue seeing great games for the Wii as time goes by.


<--Pre-ordering Mario Galaxy and SSBB if i can

 

[Sansui]

Wii sucks. I agree with the spore developer that said its a piece of shit. You can not develop next gen games on this system. and looking at that the only worthy system is the PS3.


sure wii would have rocked ps2 and xbox. but ps3 and xbox1.5 not so much.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

depends how you define "next gen"

if you think ps3 and xbox360 are next gen well then what would u call games like crysis and alan wake? super uber next gens next gen?

i personally think next gen games are games that are pushing the current limits of graphics, physics and interface. the xbox 360 and ps3 do not bring anything that is close to next gen if you consider the pc. now i realise this argument isnt about the pc, but fact is, pc gamers are the only people who are truly "next gen". when it comes to consoles it is more of a refinement of a already well known process.

the only thing next gen about any of the consoles is the ps3 blue ray which could fail miserably, the actually processing ability is so old that my pc beats a ps3 and its almost 2 years old and only cost £200 more. the wii remote, which as i showed in my last post in the thread, has already been developed for pc, a LONG time ago, it is just refining the gyration mouse for gamers.

so it really does come down to definition, if you are like me then the only real reason to buy a ps3 is for FF13 or perhaps blue ray, a wii is only useful for its remote and a xbox360 is worthless overpriced junk. not that the ps3 is any less over priced...

a wii beats both the other consoles because A. it is really really really fun and B. its sensibly priced.

 

[Eggy]

Playstation3.

PERIOD.

 

[Sansui]

but the wii isnt really really fun. Its fun for a lil bit and then loses its glory. Granted drunk wii will always be fun but drunk video games period are fun.
talking games: wii has no good games.
Only one system will have sports games and good strategy rpgs and thats ps3.

xbox1.5 only has fps games and thats owned by PC.
oh and crysis doesn't look that great from the screens i saw.

 

[brad.dude03]

Hah! I dunno wtf screens you saw n00b but Crysis looks WTFPWN. Amazing, amazing graphics. Wii has all kinds of great games (uh hello, twilight princess, old roms anyone?) and the ps3 is a worthless piece of shit. The only reason anyone should ever buy that thing is to get a cheap blu ray player, and that might end up flopping as bad as the ps3 anyway, so why even bother.

 

[Tonks]

You all put way too much emphasis on these "next generation" games and graphics. Really, it's all bullshit. Apparently none of you kids have spent several hours playing N64 games, like SSB Original, Mario Kart, etc.. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting these idiotic statements about some graphics and next gen bs.

Sansui; Read Dr Super Good's posts, then read Mecheon's posts, then GTFO!
Or, better yet, continue your vaguely stated arguments and get told. If you're going to try to defend yourself, stop making up shit and make some solid statements that somebody will agree with. Oh, you're defending Ps3. You can't make solid statements that anyone would agree with.

oh and crysis doesn't look that great from the screens i saw.

If you're judging a game by screenshots, then you're beyond retarded.

talking games: wii has no good games.

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I honestly can't think of anything to say to this, it's just... moronic.

 

[Shadow_Fox]

You all put way too much emphasis on these "next generation" games and graphics. Really, it's all bullshit. Apparently none of you kids have spent several hours playing N64 games, like SSB Original, Mario Kart, etc.. Otherwise you wouldn't be posting these idiotic statements about some graphics and next gen bs.

Yep...i still play all the N64 games on occasion on an emulator (it is legal..), (since my thing is packed in a box). And honestly ive played xbox and n64, the quality of the games on the N64 are MUCH better then the ones on the XBOX. Games like Banjo Kazooie, Mario Kart, Star Fox, Zelda, Ogre Battle, Goldeneye, etc...Classics, and in all honesty GRAPHICS MEAN NOTHING!

 

[Sansui]

Its not graphics lil boys its power. wii doesnt have it so it cant have as complex and sexy games. sorry wii doesnt have any good games.

k thanks sit down and stfu. stupid nintendo fan boys. silly silly.

 

[Mecheon]

Yep...i still play all the N64 games on occasion on an emulator (it is legal..), (since my thing is packed in a box)

Doesn't change the fact its illegal unless you dump the roms yourself

talking games: wii has no good games.

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

Ok, it falls flat if you get far into the game and only picks up around the end, but its still a great game

 

[Kuhneghetz]

According to the news I saw today, the European release of PS3 will have less quality than the American and the Japanese release. 1000 of older Playstation games will not be compatible with PS3 and there will be less amount of European PS3 games than the amount of US and Jap games. Plus the European console will be more expensive.

In other words, it's gonna fail.

 

[Tonks]

Its not graphics lil boys its power. wii doesnt have it so it cant have as complex and sexy games. sorry wii doesnt have any good games.

Power? Explain yourself, fool! You're making vague, in-the-dark statements that make absolutely no sense.

wii doesnt have it so it cant have as complex and sexy games.

Complex makes sexy, or sexy makes complex? You're confusing me. Why are complex games the only 'good' games? Personally I prefer the simple ones, full of good, clean, fun.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

i think the law about roms is, if you own the rom its legal to keep it for as long as you want. if you dont you can only use it for 24 hours then you have to delete it. i think its this because some of the disclaimers to websites for roms force you to agree to these terms before you can enter.

Its not graphics lil boys its power. wii doesnt have it so it cant have as complex and sexy games. sorry wii doesnt have any good games.

power? POWER?!?!? WTF DOES THAT MEAN?!?!?!

you dont have to like the wii's games but u cant go around saying its "its not graphics its power" when that is the stupidest statement you could make. the reason the ps3 and xbox360 have such huge processors is because they want amazing graphics and physics. ok let me just make it nice and clear, the Xbox360 and ps3 were designed to have amazing graphics, its practically all they do, Xbox even suffered massive overheating problems costing millions of dolars in refunds just to get amazing graphics, processing power = graphics, it is ALL about graphics for those two consoles. thats the bottom line. wii is not about graphics its about fun, it only has a 729mhz processor compared to the 3.2ghz monsters in the xbox and ps3. it is less powerfull, but the wii's kick ass sales shows that people care about value, fun and new ideals. i know i do. i mean, a game that looks like its real is all well and good, but i would still break out the goldeneye because it is fun, and thats what the wii is, thats what counts.

 

[Mun'ki]

I think he's trying to be Dr Super Good

 

[brad.dude03]

Yeah, pulling a Dr. Super Good is not a good idea when you have intelligent people that actually have facts to back up their claims arguing against you. Graphics and physics technology do NOT dictate whether a game is good or not.

If I had to choose betweena game like Ghost Recon Asdvance Warfighter and a game like Goldeneye or Mario Kart, I totally would choose the N64 games, because they are more FUN. Games don't have to have super crazy graphics and amazing physics to be amazing, and these n64 games prove this. Back in the days, before consoles, people would sped hours and hours playing in arcades playing simple games like pong and pacman, and they loved it because the design is great, and the game captivates its audience, even though it uses very simplistic graphics, etc. I don't care about having super ultra realistic games on the Wii, I want games that are FUN. Look at a game like Swat 4. Good graphics, very realistic, horrible game. The gameplay is boring, you walk very very slowly and a lot of things happen quite at random. "but it has teh l33thaxxbbq graffx and fisx!!1!11!1!!!" you say. It doesn't matter, the game still blows. Why? BECAUSE THE GAMEPLAY BLOWS. It doesn't matter how good graphics, physics realism, any of that is, unless the gameplay is good, the game will fail.

PS The PS3 has already flopped. It's dive bombing here in North America, because it tried to compete against the Wii. Stupid, stupid Sony.

 

[GST_Nemisis]

i think sony may be in with a chance, but they are truly on a knife edge. for the ps3 to survive this war with its head held high its needs alot of luck and some good games. blue ray mustnt fail, if blue ray goes down the drain, the ps3 will become obsolete. fourtunatly blue ray has already been developed and looks promising, but its still a big risk from sony. i think sony will be ok with this because alot of developers have gone to blue ray after seeing its potential, did you know that blue ray disks have a potential to store 200gb on 8 layers, thats amazing. it needs some trademark games, some classics that will be considered worthy of the money you paid for the consol, i personally am considering buying a ps3 just for FF13. it also needs to get a bit cheaper, predictions say that it will be almost half its current price in a year, i might buy one then...if sony gets in gear and sorts its system out it could be good, but now it seems a waste...

 

[brad.dude03]

exactly why i'm not buying a console atm. They'll all be half price in some holiday bundle by next christmas, and then is the time to scoop one up