Where are the cinematic mapmakers?

[creyzi4zb12]

I wonder why there aren't any new cinematic maps submitted anymore. Before there were tons of users who create cutscene maps.
I noticed that there aren't that much users who create cutscenes anymore. Then again, maybe they're preparing a huge cinematic for the cine contest 2007.

 

[Arab4life]

I dont think this thread belongs in site discussion, this should be moved.

And there are lots of cutscene map makers, what you talking about? Go check the map section, theres dozens.

 

[Rui]

Perhaps they got bored? Most Cinematic makers were JASS scripters, they might have thought they learned and explored everything in Warcraft III, and left. As we know, Wc3 is getting boring and outdated.

 

[creyzi4zb12]

Yeah! Whatever happened to Infrane? rulerofiron99? Player72985? KingKlear? Teal? creyzi4zb12? Daemon? etc.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Infrane and anitarf is working on a project, so is player, kingklear seems to be gone, teal is nothing special, who the hell is daemon? and I don't know if iron is working on any cinematics but he is still around.

Alot of the cinematic makers are gone though.

 

[Rui]

Geez I blame World of Warcraft. I'm going to try that game just to find what's so cool about it.

 

[creyzi4zb12]

RagingSpeedHorn:
Daemon/Daemonkiller was the guy who created "Creatures of the Night." Definitely one of the earliest and best cutscenes ever made.
rulerofiron made Battle Cinematic
who's iron?
Player72985 = I haven't seen him for a while
KingKlear = disappeared after he made it second place in the latest cine contest.
Teal = Well, it's been years.....
creyzi4zb12 = is now making his Battle Royale 5 which will be up soon
TheGreatNoob = I've never really seen all his maps, but all of his known cutscenes were great.
PurgeandFire = I've never seen him too.

 

[Wolverabid]

Many cinematic authors have indeed moved on to other games or in real life itself, Bob27 being another good example. Fortunately, Warcraft III always continues to attract the interest of newcomers of all skill levels.

~ Thread moved to Warcraft III Discussion .

 

[Rui]

I think it should go in Warcraft III Discussion Forum instead.


I've been playing Warcraft III for 2-3 years and I still haven't learned everything. My goal was to make a mod, to somehow keep Wc3 up. Not with World Editor, I mean, a REAL mod. Like Revival of the High Elves, for example.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

RagingSpeedHorn:
Daemon/Daemonkiller was the guy who created "Creatures of the Night." Definitely one of the earliest and best cutscenes ever made.
rulerofiron made Battle Cinematic
who's iron?
Player72985 = I haven't seen him for a while
KingKlear = disappeared after he made it second place in the latest cine contest.
Teal = Well, it's been years.....
creyzi4zb12 = is now making his Battle Royale 5 which will be up soon
TheGreatNoob = I've never really seen all his maps, but all of his known cutscenes were great.
PurgeandFire = I've never seen him too.

iron = rulerofiron.

And player IS still around as I just said a few posts above, he and that panda guy is working on their cinematic project hosted at wc3campaigns.

And I remember Daemonkiller now, thanks.

 

[creyzi4zb12]

It seems as though warcraft 3 mapmakers are now slowly fading away. Well, not the players (there's always that DoTa game they call).
- But I really find warcraft 3's world editor as the best in the world. It's a shame most good manipulaters of making cutscenes in them are gone. I'm kinda new to cutscene making, I discovered the many things I could do with the camera and the GUI triggers on it. I don't do JASS BTW, and don't intend to learn.
Oh well, Warcraft 3 has been going on for 5 years now. I wouldn't be surprize if it deteriorates slowly now.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

It seems as though warcraft 3 mapmakers are now slowly fading away. Well, not the players (there's always that DoTa game they call).
- But I really find warcraft 3's world editor as the best in the world. It's a shame most good manipulaters of making cutscenes in them are gone. I'm kinda new to cutscene making, I discovered the many things I could do with the camera and the GUI triggers on it. I don't do JASS BTW, and don't intend to learn.
Oh well, Warcraft 3 has been going on for 5 years now. I wouldn't be surprize if it deteriorates slowly now.

New people are comming along with old people leaving, that's how it has always been and yes at some point Wc3 will die out but untill Sc2 comes I think modding will live on perfectly fine, so that's atleast a year or more. Perhaps Wc3 will even stay alive after Sc2, it all depends on the quality of the game and it's modability.

 

[creyzi4zb12]

I don't think SC2 will have a good editor system as WC3. From what I saw on the demo, I think SC2 is gonna be dependept of melee games.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Melee games will most probably be the strenght of Sc2 but I do think that the editor will be good on some other points where the Wc3 editor lacks.

 

[Shadow_Fox]

I don't think SC2 will have a good editor system as WC3. From what I saw on the demo, I think SC2 is gonna be dependept of melee games.

I agree with this, mainly because there are no heros, which were the focus of about 60% of WC maps.

 

[Rui]

True. Blizzard really gave an RPG feeling to Warcraft III when introducing Heroes and hero items, they did it to mix RTS with RPG, allowing the creation of multiple map types as we've seen. What would be AoS without heroes?

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

A hero-less AoS would not be very fun, as it almost kills the whole concept of AoS maps

 

[Dark.Revenant]

Starcraft has a boatload of UMS maps, too. Come to think of it, DotA (which is very dependent on heroes), was based off of AoS, which was a Wc3 copy of a Starcraft map. There have been RPG's on Starcraft, as well.

^^^ All without heroes

 

[Shadow_Fox]

Agreed but realize back when these maps were still played more often on SC, well the concept of a "hero" as we know it today didn't exist, so back then it would of worked fine, now it's like "lol wtf no hero?"

 

[Freakstylez]

I find the lack of heroes in Starcraft 2 to be disappointing. A step backwards, in my opinion.

 

[Palin_Twinblade]

Its because of WoW. I mean i have a 70 pally it was fun but all mmorpgs get boring. For some ppl takes them to get 4 level 70s lmao. But I say blizzard fucked up warcraft, and bad! Mmorpg was great idea but I say they should keep the main storyline out of it. I mean introducing illidan wtf!!! Now you can kill illidan every weekend with your buddies. We all know someday Arthas well be there and that is the only reason i've played WoW is for the storyline. I'm a big time lore follower. Also Medihv's tower is bs cause moroes is there but Medivh killed his ass right before the staircase. Then even inventing blood elves that aren't with Illidan? They are only alive because of him geez wtf. The Draenei look cool in full plate, but very bad on allience or even horde. Should just be creeps with the Burning Legion. Everyone knows even Blizzard That it was a risky move to bring Draenei into it and they blew it. Watched collectors edition dvd that comes with wow TBC. They even say it was "very risky" but they think they did a good job. Yeah goodjob guys you got couple million WoW players and thousands of wc3 players pissed off,GREAT JOB
But don't worry that new LOTR mmorpg will make the numbers of WoW drop big time. They released it perfect timing bout 3-4 months after TBC release so players r bit tired of expansion and not enough time for Blizzard to do something big. They will be working hard and fast on next expansion probly release it next year. If they don't it will be dumb on their part cause if people can create a mmorpg to stand up to WoW, there WILL be more.

 

[Andriejj]

Wait for Warhammer Online- this will be a good MMORPG... Warhammer lore and story is much more developed, and imo- more interesting, than the Warcrafts.

 

[Rui]

There are far best MMORPGs with a fixed price. I don't know what's so great about WoW, that's why I wanted to buy it; to see what's so great about it.

 

[Mini-Me]

From cinematic makers to starcraft2 to WoW. 'All roads lead to rome' goes the old saying. In these forums two modifications seem to apply, 'All discussions lead to WoW', 'All discussions lead to Dota'.

What do you guys think about dota btw? Lets hear some oppinions on that!

 

[Palin_Twinblade]

lol a mod going off topic too =P, well dota absolutely sucks. I hate it and main reason like alot of others is because if your hero falls behind in levels or items or kills your screwed no coming back up unless you have a leaver to give u some shit.

 

[Andriejj]

I hate DotA, because it doesn't let other maps break through.

I don't like it, because it's weak. Only few, really nice spells there, only few, really interesting heroes... And too much pressure on items- it's more about items than heroes and that's bad. Items should be an OPTION. And if they are important, the items system should make some sense and should be user-friendly. In DotA- it is not. Nothing tells you where the items you need for recipe are. And why the hell there is some fucking shop in the forest? It only annoys you, you have to run there to buy something, then you realise that the needed item is too expensive... That's stupid.

And DotA is ONLY about killing. There is nothing else there- you just buy items and kill- BORING. In DoE, ToB and AotZ you got pushing with help of the hired creeps. In EotAT you got loads of things to do except for ganking and killing...

Oh, and what was the problem with cinematic makers? ^^

 

[atropos007]

haha, mini-me was joking about going offtopic, but:

And DotA is ONLY about killing. There is nothing else there- you just buy items and kill- BORING. In DoE, ToB and AotZ you got pushing with help of the hired creeps. In EotAT you got loads of things to do except for ganking and killing...

That part of your post gave me a good laugh. DotA has many kill moments, but it is focused rather on farming with killing from time to time. And in ToB and AotZ killing is way easier, because you can leave your lane without consequences, you can hide in fog of war for years without consequences, and if you attack enemy hero, his creeps won't even help him.

 

[Rui]

From cinematic makers to starcraft2 to WoW. 'All roads lead to rome' goes the old saying. In these forums two modifications seem to apply, 'All discussions lead to WoW', 'All discussions lead to Dota'.

What do you guys think about dota btw? Lets hear some oppinions on that!

If you were frozen slowly, you would die, but not if you were frozen in 5 minutes.

To decipher; one thing is letting this discussion eventually fall into DotA, WoW and the rest, another thing is to jump to it on purpose.

Nothing tells you where the items you need for recipe are. And why the hell there is some fucking shop in the forest? It only annoys you, you have to run there to buy something, then you realise that the needed item is too expensive... That's stupid.

It is true that some heroes are old and aren't worth a fart, but the above is relative in a way. If you play DotA alot, you will already know the prices of the items you seek. The same for the recipes.

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

Indeed, let's stay on topic.

 

[Horn]

Don't forget Iron Ian!

 

[Horror.Man]

My God.. Iron_Ian. I remember him most among the top cinematic makers. I remember he also stopped mapping for his final cinematic when he got bored of it. I assume many people have moved on from Warcraft, and it's really a shame. Warcraft's golden age has come and gone...

 

[Rui]

If at least there was a Warcraft IV... damn my Warcraft III is having mass fatal errors again >.<

Blizzard should at least replace some of the melee maps. Those maps on the ladder are becoming so boring.

 

[Andriejj]

And where are the CAMPAIGN makers? Razorclaw_X is the last man standing, but I didn't really like his campaigns- some missions were awesome, but some of them- totally boring. And those cinematics- so damn LONG and BORING!!!

The best campaign maker was Med. Map Guy, but he abandoned mapping.

There is ONE interesting project- Random Reasons(password is password) from this page:

http://www.cryptikarma.com/

But it's still in progress... When 0.4 comes out I'll dl it.

 

[Rui]

Razorclaw_X is probably gone too. He should have at least released a BETA of Book 6 by now.

 

[Horn]

I'm still here!

 

[MySpaceBarBroke]

I'm still here!

You lie.

 

[Andriejj]

Razorclaw is not gone, check out campaigncreations.org forum. He's currently working on book 6.

 

[Horror.Man]

God, all this talk of campaigns makes me want to make one myself...

*Sigh* If only I had the help from an awesome website where a lot of brilliant minds worked... if only.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Med. Map Guy is neither gone, at least I saw him a little while ago at Wc3campaigns where he talked about some project. He just doesn't post much.

 

[Horror.Man]

I remember being apart of the Med. Map Guy hype a long time ago, and as far as I'm concerned his work is still the best on Wc3. It's funny, and he tells stories with that humor.

 

[creyzi4zb12]

Whattabout that D13'ZEL fellow? I kinda liked his maps.
I've never seen MedMapGuy make cinematics before. Except for his Joe's quest campaign cines!! I loved that game!!
And he's a Filipino!!
Also does anybody have any link of his Deandara's TALE map?

 

[Andriejj]

Go to http://war3.incgamers.com/ - there are his maps, though not sure if the really latest updates.

 

[Rui]

Deandra's Tale is on our database, check the Map Section.

 

[SantaBla]

By the way does anyone know if Phoenix_VIII stopped mapping? He made The Voyage Part 1 and Part 2 and some other maps... He was extremely good at terraining... If you just watch his map "cinematic tri-x" which is just a bunch of terrains being shown, you can see that he had really good skills...

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

There are so many of the Phoenix guys that I cannot remember who is who.

 

[creyzi4zb12]

LOL!! Yeah!! I kinda liked his Voyage story tho' I think u can find his farewell posts in maps.worldofwar.net in his Voyage Part 2 board.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Okay, cool. Only two Phoenix people that are still left is VII and IV I think. What is the deal with all of them having the same name anyways, you know the reason?

 

[Rui]

Pheo the Weo (IV) I know, but the others, I don't. No idea why they took that name anyway.

 

[Horn]

There's two and one spells it wrong

The rest are nobodies.

 

[ragingspeedhorn]

Thanks for clearing that up!