what system is wanted nowadays

[Diehard@Azeroth]

What type of system do you guys think most GUI users want nowadays? really feel like creating one, credit of idea goes to the brainstormer if admitted to systems section.

 

[xxdingo93xx]

I would say jump and knockback systems, basically the easy ones.

 

[Narrat0r]

Jump and inventory.

 

[Slaydon]

Full screen skill tree system.

 

[Paladon]

I would say jump and knockback systems

*cough*cough*

Missile System?

 

[Slaydon]

oh, its most wanted... Pickup Item System for Inventory. Jump system that jumps automaticly, dont need to do something like oblivion

 

[Restor]

Hmm, I think MUI system, but thats not very hard.

some FPS camera-mode system I think

 

[Asomath]

Full screen skill tree system.

Seconded

~Asomath

 

[Slaydon]

well, actually the skill tree system is pretty easy to create

 

[Asomath]

well, actually the skill tree system is pretty easy to create

Doesnt matter if it is easy, its still desirable. XD

~Asomath

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

hm... full skill tree system, how do you want it to work? like a tech-tree to appear and to select an ability which then gets added to the units?
the fps camera mode can be created... hmm values need to be changed when reaching walls though =)

 

[Slaydon]

i think he wants the button, double click to learn and so on, its just to use models from Inv systems and use them, i could even help

 

[Asomath]

Yeah, different tiers (levels) and such, like you would have in Diablo, or WoW, or any good RPG. The ability to scroll over and see the description of the ability would be cool as well.


~Asomath

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

haha isnt that almost exactly like the inventory system xD i think rather than using a multi-board or floating text for description il just use clicking and give the description there w/out using trackables. or is it about time i use trackables? I think there is a max of level 10 for items in wc, so 10 columns all branching up to a title called "Skills".
Or i can do it via units... thatll be interesting xD

 

[Slaydon]

nah, you wont need that. Just a boolean variable, setup trigger for every unit and loops

 

[Asomath]

We posted at the EXACT same time. You could do it any way you want.

~Asomath

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

so abil inventory via units, i dont think loops are needed tho, just some fancy buttons and using hotkeys to browse the "inventory". Thanks for amazing idea guys ^^ +rep, even Restor who suggested the fps... meh il just +rep you all!

 

[Slaydon]

well, you would need loops for an easier system, so whenever a button a pressed, Loop actions, then a if, checks if its that or that, if he got that, then do those actions, so you only need to use variables

 

[Asomath]

Looking at 10 learnable skills and a little small counter that says what ability level you have.

Oh no, I am adding things :O

~Asomath

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

to slaydon:
these loop checks arent required in the system im thinking of ))
to asomath:
The more, the merrier xD
---EDIT
thinking of adding it to a spell book ability to conserve space . btw all ideas will be credited.
though i dont understand, why would they want all this "eye-candy" when abilities can just be added to spell books in other ways that require much less triggering?

 

[Slaydon]

well, the loops are making it much easier, ive created a template map, all you have to do is to set the Variables, and create the actions that gives the unit that level and sets it to +1. You could use help from the hero selection guide, for the double click unit.

 

[Asomath]

I myself am using a very easy ability selection system for spellbooks. It just looks crappy.

A skill tree would give a much more professional look. It allows players to see what abilities they CAN get, and shows requirements for abilities so they can plan. It also helps in game mimicks to add better quality.

~Asomath

 

[Slaydon]

oh rite, forgot the Multiboard/Strings Variables

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

hmm... skill tree system it is then, tho dont expect much from me this week or so, since im trying to work on wc4 whenever i find my parnter on. thanks for advice asomath, il look into the template map slaydon ^^
edit~~
I looked into it slaydon, but this system can be much more efficient and require less triggers through integers and using one unit for it. if u want me to explain it to you i certainly can. though good job ^^ i would also suggest using a hashtable for it
btw nice freaking models man! lol
i think i would love to use a multiboard for it tho )

 

[Asomath]

Fantastic. Time is somthing I have now that SCII is pushed back.

~Asomath

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

Fantastic. Time is somthing I have now that SCII is pushed back.

~Asomath

lool usually people are dissapointed xD, but happy is good ;P

you want to work with me and my partner on wc4? )))

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

btw i think it can also be fully done on a multiboard which will be accessed by pressing hotkey (for spell) and including scrolling all abilities using arrow keys and highlighting

 

[Slaydon]

well, i can explain to you. I got a trigger that have a 1000 loop. Inside that loop it runs an If, and the If is a variable with 1000 arrays, so it checks which of the array thats true, and it will only run the array numbered action, so if he clicks unit nr 1, it will only run the triggers with the 1 array, and inside the if then else, in the then, it will learn spell/show text. and then you actually is done

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

so thats how u organized it, tbh (no offense of course) there is a much better way to do this, by integers and not by checking every time and by organizing the players action as if it was a diagram, adding, subtracting, changing integers based on what happens and using one unit, or even using just a multiboard with keys to track what is happening. i really suggest using a multiboard instead of importing alot and changing its values in user interface )) it will be great but would require a bit of time to organize the triggering.

 

[Asomath]

btw i think it can also be fully done on a multiboard which will be accessed by pressing hotkey (for spell) and including scrolling all abilities using arrow keys and highlighting

The more eye candy, and the smoother it runs the better. XD

~Asomath

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

The more eye candy, and the smoother it runs the better. XD

~Asomath

yea but it would take some time to organize like setting up string arrays and variable arrays or even organizing it in a hashtable so it could have unlimited abilities stored (even though itll max out the whole screen and abiltiies are mostly only 10, but i think 100 ability cap can be there as long as it fits, couple of abilities each row, hmm so was that being all extatic about joining our team of wc4? )

 

[Asomath]

Hmmm, not sure I can support another project. Im working on 4 right now, 2 public, 2 private XD

~Asomath

 

[Slaydon]

Was bored so i created 2 spells, and the setup is complete, well, atleast almost. will still need the Points So you can understand the Loop setup

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

ok i saw the loop setup, but still you can control navigation using an integer instead of having to loop all the time, i can give u an example if u want me to. wait a min... you arent using any keys to navigate in this one lolz
----- edit
ok i suggest you really use hashtables in this one with integers attached to the units and making spell values global instead of a variable each to minimize the looping process and to loop through spell ability types within a hashtable that can include unlimited units or use an array and doing it in the same technique.

 

[Slaydon]

I know how, but that would only require alot of if then elses, wont it?

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

o no it wont, just the beginning to identify spell, and then to use the scrolling integer to identify other spell values without any other if/then/elses

though i really suggest the navigating to reduce the actions by removing the looping process, it would be much more effective and the eye-candy in multiboards can be amazing too ^^

 

[Slaydon]

how would that work out?

 

[Diehard@Azeroth]

using the scrolling integer you mean?

-----edit
bro i gotta log off now, but for the scrolling integer you set it as a preset of 0 and add on the integer if it goes right so 0 1 2 3 4 5 and when u go left - 1, and if u go
7 8 9 10 11 12 up you do - 7 and down + 7
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as for the global variable you just set it SpellUnit[x] = x , from 1 to maxSpellUnit
if maxspellunit[custominteger] = selected unit, then work your way through from there using the stored values. I would suggest everything is empty and making the player being able to add his own spells inside of it so it would be like a storing spell type of system and being able to get it back into his inventory, but that would require much more work. Gl Hfz and happy mapping