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What champion would you like to see next?

Discussion in 'Heroes of the Storm' started by Razosh, May 22, 2015.

  1. Razosh

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    As you may know the next champion is set to be Johanna but the topic at hand is what champion would you like to see after her if you could choose anyone?

    If I could pick anyone I would pick Aegwynn. If you're not familiar with her she is the second most powerful of the mortal spell casters who've ever lived only outmatched by Queen Azshara. She started to train to become a guardian of Tirisfal at a young age and ended up serving the order for over 1 000 years. After her first year of training she had already mastered the Meitre scrolls. Even for the high elves it usually took decades before they were even allowed to read the scrolls for humans it was almost unheard of. Aegwynn single-handedly turned the order from puppets into their own respected order. She as well defeated the avatar of Sargeras in single combat and locked him up in the tomb of Sargeras where he remained chained until the second war. She is without any doubt the greatest human who has ever lived and her deeds far outshines those of Thoradin, Anduin Lothar, Jaina, Medivh or any other of her race.

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    My take; Arcturus Mengsk.

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    Moar love for starcraft!
     
  3. Dr Super Good

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    Dekard Cain for Diablo Support
    Mephisto for Diablo Assassin or Support
    Baal for Diablo Specialist or Assassin
    Belial for Diablo Support or Specialist
    Wizard (insert name) for Diablo Specialist or Assassin
    Monk (insert name) for Diablo Support or Assassin
    Kormac, Lyndon and Eirena (The Followers) for Diablo Support or Specialist
     
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    Samir Duran, Deathwing, Mal'Ganis and Maiev.
    Edit: And King Leoric.
     
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  5. Dr Super Good

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    Deathwing, Maiev and King Leoric are already hinted as possible future characters. It is unknown at this time if they were completely axed or are just not finished yet.
     
  6. Razosh

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    Somehow I doubt Thrall is in any way able to take on Deathwing. :D Remember Sindragosa shows up for 2 seconds so having a dragon more than a hundred times the height the size of a mortal seems a bit unfair. If they do decide to scale down the most powerful of beings on Azeroth I'd vote for Malygos or Yogg-Saron. But then again Aegwynn would also have to be scaled down, if she can best the avatar of Sargeras the Lich King wont be a problem.

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    Could you imagine Yogg-Sarons ultimate, madness overwhelming, takes control of an enemy champion for x seconds.
     
  7. Dr Super Good

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    Deathwing does not need to be scaled down. Considering some of his opponents include an angel, embodiments of pure evil, demi-god Nephalim, mutated alien creatures, highly advanced alien creatures and humans with technology from the distant future I do not see his power being out of place. Sure he is powerful, but tell that to the battleship Hyperion, and Sonya.

    He would probably be in the same toughness class as Azmodan (which is toughest non-buffed character) and a Specialist so similar damage class as well. Being a dragon mobility would probably be one of his specialties (similar to the Dwarven guy on a Gryphon) so one can suspect a slight compromise to damage (other Specialists can out damage him). He would probably have some "on-kill" or DoT trait.
     
  8. Razosh

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    This sounds more than just a bit stupid. You aim to tell me that a 200 meter tall dragon with magic, flying ability and a flame breath that can pierce through anything tested to date is of the same power level as what? An orc shaman whom needed 4 giant dragons and 25 players to defeat Deathwing? Some prime evils that could each be defeated by a single human? An Angel who's not powerful enough to defeat Diablo alone? Kerrigan who personally got beaten by Raynors men several times over and had to retreat and heal her wounds? A barbarian who couldn't even attack Deathwing since she has swords and he is flying?

    Deathwing could make the greatest dam one of the greatest buildings crafted in our time yet the hostile buildings would withstand his powers? Do you really think that a pandaren child is of the same power as an aspect?
     
  9. Dr Super Good

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    The Nephalim is not a human. Their power exceeds that of the prime evils and angels. Entire armies can be destroyed by but a single one they are that powerful. In Diablo II Demon Lords were not at full power either due to various reason which is why humans could beat them (they also were the winners, even though they died since they would eventually be reborn).

    Not his fault, we are missing Imperius who did solo Diablo.

    That was before her power up with primal power. And even then she could take a doom laser from a multi-hundred meter battle cruiser to the chest and only have minor injuries (while she ripped it apart instantly with psionic implosion). In fact the only reason she lost was because of Amon's Dr Narud who helped assemble an artefact designed to absorb her source of power (to resurrect Amon). Too bad Deathwing would not be smart enough to build such a thing. Considering Amon is "godlike" are we surprised Kerrigan was defeated once in that situation? Again when Raynor had to save her at the end of HotS that was because of Amon's artefact.

    Seeing how the Barbarian can create tornadoes which rip everything apart in his/her wake that is hardly a problem. In fact the only reason he would stand a chance is because of how nerfed the Barbarian is in Heroes of the Storm. If the Barbarian had proper Ancient Wrath of Waste gear on With Ancient Immortal King and 3 practically immortal Ancients...

    Li Li is not normally able to. Too bad she got so heavily buffed for Heroes of the Storm. In fact she is on the upper health range, near monsters like Diablo/Azmodan. She has more health than most assassins, support and specialists which is a huge surprise for a child. Yes she has more health with her cloth armor and panda fur than Tychus and Raynor which are wearing special alloy power armor from the future. Even the AI Li Li is a real pain to kill and usually ends up with the lowest death count.

    Also the other series are missing their real power players. Diablo does not have either Baal or Mephisto, both of which were more powerful than Diablo (especially Baal who is the literal incarnation of destruction itself). StarCraft is missing Executor Artanis, leader of the Protoss who's main base of operation is a planetary body sized ship (Deathwing is but a Dwarf compared with it) and Dr Narud (or Amon) who both possess knowledge unknown by mortals.

    If you really want power what about Mathael? Deathwing could not even damage him because Mathael's control over death made him intangible to assault of any kind. The only reason he lost was because the Nephalim convinced the sprits of the dead to help due to personal relationships, something Deathwing would not be able to do.

    Even Nova could do something to Deathwing. A shell from her high velocity futuristic sniper rifle would easily penetrate even meter thick scales of exotic materials. And if that does not work she can get a large orbital satellite to blow him up.

    A lot of the heroes in Heroes of the Storm are powerful by their own right and are major bosses. Deathwing certainly would be powerful, and would deal more damage and be tougher than Li Li. However he would likely be more than evenly matched by Azmodan or various other heroes.
     
  10. Razosh

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    Ok so your claim is that only a few champions are on the level of Deathwing that sounds more reasonable. It sounded like you meant that everyone was on the same level. The StarCraft heroes I do have more faith in when it comes to power, but since Hyperion isn't permanent I'm not really ready to buy that Raynor could best Deathwing. And if we are to take into account nuclear bombs and the Hyperion which is controlled by their allies and not Nova and Raynor than in all fairness we also have to account for the Old Gods helping Deathwing out. And aside from the Xel'Naga or the Pantheons there is nothing that I will even consider to have the same powers as the Old Gods. I'm also a little skeptical of Tyreal as he for some reason did not battle the weakened Diablo alone. As for the demon lords if we were to account for them as the prime evils and not as shards of a prime evil I think they would be at the level of the aspects. As for Sonya's tornadoes that's stretching it a little far they are a bit to small to catch a 200 meter tall dragon. :D Valla could possibly since she's an archer and she did solo Diablo when he was a prime evil.
     
  11. Dr Super Good

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    Raynor carries around a gun that is quite a significant size. Put simply it is an semi-automatic cannon, the kind that is usually fixed to large vehicles. Seeing how it is only possible to use such a weapon when wearing power armor (ignore various skins of Raynor) I do not think any dwarf, gnome or goblin made gun for Warcraft is anywhere near as effective. He used to carry around a physical cannon (his SC2 commando model has it) which can be considered a mobile tank turret but that was removed towards end of alpha.

    Raynor does have command over the Hyperion as well as his Raiders. Hence his Hyperion and Banshee support ultimate is fair. Anything else would be saying that Azmodan does not have an army or Zagara cannot call for Zerg reinforcements.

    He is a very competent fighter. Even in weakened mortal form he is shown to be able to break "demonic seals" with ease. When Diablo III was first released he could carry the party around through A3 on Inferno as he did pretty high damage before he was nerfed to basically no damage (to stop him carrying you around). One must remember that in Diablo II he was forbidden from interfering with mortals directly, hence why he sat back until the very end. That said he is not the best fighter amongst the angels, that title goes to Imperius the Angel of Valour.

    Size does not matter when they hit for >160 million damage critical. That is enough damage to kill all non-large normal mobs at T6 (maximum difficulty) in a single hit in 4 player mode. Seeing how a lot of them are produced every second even elites at T6 die almost instantly.

    Valla could also do it but suffers from toughness problems (about 1/10 of the toughness). She would have to juggle Smoke Screen with possibly some Natalyer build.

    Wizard would have no problem one hitting Deathwing thanks to the 6 billion critical meteors of doom. Nothing at T6 on 4 player difficulty short of a few select bosses (Adria, ones with forced transitions, some rift guardians) can survive more than a single hit and the hits are reasonably spam able.

    Additionally Deathwing will not be all that tough in a few expansions of WoW time.
     
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    Is funny that you are arguing with Deathwing's size and power...

    When Kerrigan is almost a demi-goddess herself and Diablo is the prime evil and ruler of the burning hells..
     
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    I would like to see Rexxar
     
  14. Dr Super Good

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    The version you use in Heroes of the Storm is either Diablo II or his original Hell form. He is purely the ruler of Fear.
     
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    in either way, I hope that the new hero would be Fenix.


    We need a StarCraft Warrior, if not? well, Gul'Dan come to my mind, only to hear this datamined line.

    "I'm taking your skull, Deal with it!" - Illidan
     
  16. Razosh

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    We're also missing a Diablo support character maybe Deckard Cain.
     
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    I would like to see Tosh and Selendis :D. Tosh would be an Assassin similar to Nova, but fighting at closer range (AOE psionic attack, shield, drain energy and summon spectres/psionic storm with silence), and it's really easy to give him 3 skins - normal Tosh, master Tosh (full spectre armor) and ghost Tosh :D. As for Selendis, she would be specialist that spawns some flying drones :D.
     
  18. Razosh

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    Yeah that would b real fun though I think Artanis is highest up on my list right now.
     
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    We need more Protoss!!! Artanis as warrior, Selendis as specialist and one more support that can heal - full protoss team :D
     
  20. Dr Super Good

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    Tosh would better suit specialist (or to a lesser extent support) than assassin. We already have 2 permanent stealth assassins, it is time for a different permanent stealth type.

    If she gets a hero then Swann and Stetman should also get one. Swann as specialist (or warrior) and Stetman as support.