Warcraft 3 patch 1.22

[Eccho]

I think it is becuase they didn't fix the major balance issues which so many have pointed out, and which they did nothing about.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

I said about the point of laddering, how the balances are not ok. From the point of maps, why didn't they create some more triggers, used even in WEU? Why not simplify these so that instead of having to create 2-3 triggers with many actions some to be done with just few

It's true and war3 has been abandoned since 2 years ago mb. And the HP bar sucks, if you play solo or not to say team, many HP bars will only make you not see what happens instead of the opposite. ALT rules in that case. The auto Replay - I don't forget to save a good game, so basicly it seems useless to me. The only good thing may be the saved game after disc, though what does it do? I doubt you can continue playing with the opponent after you get kicked off bnet and then load the game, or can you?

 

[PatruX]

I said about the point of laddering, how the balances are not ok. From the point of maps, why didn't they create some more triggers, used even in WEU? Why not simplify these so that instead of having to create 2-3 triggers with many actions some to be done with just few

It's true and war3 has been abandoned since 2 years ago mb. And the HP bar sucks, if you play solo or not to say team, many HP bars will only make you not see what happens instead of the opposite. ALT rules in that case. The auto Replay - I don't forget to save a good game, so basicly it seems useless to me. The only good thing may be the saved game after disc, though what does it do? I doubt you can continue playing with the opponent after you get kicked off bnet and then load the game, or can you?

I feel that many of those changes and additions in this patch were more DotA (or custom game) oriented than BNet.
And even if they weren't any good additions for you, it might've been for others, be open minded - not so self-centered.

 

[Eccho]

Meh... Have you forgot that "they do actually not support WE and it's contents"?. I believe they wont do anything more with it, while coding efficient jass will be the most common way soon

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

I feel that many of those changes and additions in this patch were more DotA (or custom game) oriented than BNet.
And even if they weren't any good additions for you, it might've been for others, be open minded - not so self-centered.

I am open minded. I am human and I don't like the elves being nerfed like that because I have elf buddies who may have left war3 lately just thanks to these changes. And now I feel bad coz there is no one to play with ...

Also more triggers are good for all

 

[Ash]

NElf were already unbalanced enough.

GG to little UD changes though, they've just made a tower rush -- as stupid as it sounds -- a little more plausible by changing the base armour.

 

[Teapot]

The patch doesn't work for me. Tells me something like: "Does not match file checksum" and that there's something wrong in a sound file.

If a new patch requires a game reinstallation, then that patch really SUCKS!

 

[SantaBla]

Why didn't we get an AMM change like the majority of players requested? What's the point of Westfall if nothing has changed since then?

 

[Mr. PWNAGE]

It fucked up my internet thats what it did.

So I downloaded it and my internet started going as slow as a mule with 5 broken legs with chains attaching it to Pluto...


Yeah I suck at making things like that...


Anyways! It stuffed my internet and now I can barely get this site to work...


>=(

 

[The_wand_mirror]

I somebody deleting my posts?

Im sure i posted in here, wtf!!

I can't log in to b.net anymore... is it the patch?

 

[Rui]

Night Elf didn't get buffed. We could say they got nerfed, somewhat.
Dryads are those units that I feel are too strong for level 2, but too easily killable for level 3.

Human towers needed the scout tower repair rate nerf, when Humans tower-rushed it was impossible to destroy the scout towers before they turned offensive, you either targeted the tower or the peasants, yet both would lead to you loosing time.

By the way, we don't know if Blizzard fixed JASS scripts or not, they changed their libraries and they didn't mention. I have also heard they changed a couple of things in-game.

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

This patch sucks a phat one. I can't play ANY RP game other than SotDRP (which was made by the dreaded, hacking Anarki and co). Every single time we tried RARP, it lagged up within 5 minutes of gametime. Any ideas as to why?

 

[Dr Super Good]

I)eadnerzhul, lagged as in?

I say it could be caused by some values being changed that it relied heavilly appon.

 

[Eccho]

By the way, we don't know if Blizzard fixed JASS scripts or not, they changed their libraries and they didn't mention. I have also heard they changed a couple of things in-game.

They did not fixed the JASS scripts I assume. When I compared the 1.21 and 1.22 blizzard.j, common.j, and common.ai they were all indentical in their byte size.

 

[HappyTauren]

Not about that, it could be some hardcoded shit. Like 0 being actual values, and not "infinity" for example, that already happened in one patch (tough it was vice-versa).

 

[Eccho]

oh, well but that's not possible for us to find out anyways right?

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

It was major lag that kept on coming for every player. I don't know why exactly it was caused... could it be that there's a problem with the triggers?

 

[Eccho]

Hm... I played last night and didn't have any problems. Since the errors appears to have affected some people and some not, this might be the same thing?

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

Well... I have an uber vista computer, I SHOULDN'T lag. Even when I host the game lags up.

 

[Ash]

Well... I have a vista computer, I should lag.

Fixed.

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

That's only with like the office version or whatever. I've got home premium-a minimal amount of problems. The worst I have is my Nvidia driver restarting itself sometimes, causing some abrupt but rather annoying crashes in some of my better games (Unreal Tournament 3, Oblivion, etc.) but doing nothing to ma Warcraft III and older RTS's (Age of Empires II, Age of Mythology, etc.). So therefore teh vista is not teh phail, or atleast not as bad as they say it is. I mean... I have it, I should know, right? RIGHT?! TELL ME I'M NOT RIGHT!

 

[Ash]

TELL ME I'M NOT RIGHT!

Vista Fails. dere u go.

Back on subject, I'm not sure why you're lagging. Blizzard changed things in the patch, I can only guess it'll be down to the map makers to sort it out, eventually.

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

And the strange thing is, it only happens with LoKRP and RARP... but SotDRP stays fine... hmmm...

 

[HINDYhat]

Well apparently, Blizzard changes a lot of hardcoded shit all the time. Seems this time, though, it just got buggier.

 

[HappyTauren]

Well apparently, Blizzard changes a lot of hardcoded shit all the time. Seems this time, though, it just got buggier.

Not about that, it could be some hardcoded shit. Like 0 being actual values, and not "infinity" for example, that already happened in one patch (tough it was vice-versa).

Fuck blizzard, I am going to mod mario 64 now.

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

Fuck blizzard, I am going to mod mario 64 now.

+Reputation for hilariousness!

 

[FoamyFan1023]

Hey...ever since the patch I can't host anymore...anybody got any suggestions on how to fix this? I had only been hosting for about two days before the patch happened...

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

Check your firewall.

 

[NhazUl]

A disappointment indeed. I patched a few times, one of which resulted in losing half of the ingame textures and red tint to all models, even the menu backdrops... I reinstalled and now am sticking to 1.21 because of newgen... and I'm waiting for a better patch.

 

[MGCǂSpectre]

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I don't have 'alien' problems and I don't know how you succeed in having them. Patch 1.22 is just fine, bad from the point of nerfs but all is skill when talking about melee. But maybe wooden PCs cause problems with the new patch.

 

[NhazUl]

Easy, man. Well, I suck at melee at all. I'll just not rush to update.

 

[AlatAriel]

Vista and the patch

I run 64 bit Vista (and do not want to hear how it sux or w/e.... lol) and the patch was a problem for me until I set the game to play as admin and in xp(sp2) mode. Once I did that, everything worked perfectly. If you are still having problems try it.

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

Luckily for me, I bought my computer off new egg (or got it as a gift, rather), so all the things I need came pre-installed.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Ash, WC3 runs EXELENTLY WELL in Vista with fewer bugs than in XP (no kespersky JNGP bug) atleast in my experience.

My vista PC can run wc3 at max (ingame settings) with 16q AA and 16 AF at 1680*1050res with no problems at all (constant max FPS) as far as lag goes in the most leaky of maps (parasite 2), atleast before the patch.

I shell try testing it right now infact to see if it has affect preformance at all.

So far updating went fine, DL took 10 seconds and instalation 2 seconds.
No detoration of speed noticed with logging into battlenet or at the main menu, now to find a game. . .

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

I lost my ability to host the previous day. I was able to host the day before THAT one, but I dunno... I'll try it again later. (Vista Home Premium).

And by the way, I've had the same experience with the game as Dr Super Good. But it's an old game... who CAN'T run it at max settings?

 

[Dr Super Good]

The fact is I am running it passed max. The actual time to render 1 frame is 4+ times more than on max settings.

 

[Kwah]

Now, THAT is not half bad.

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

I don't really see any difference. The games engine is old, ugly, and outdated. I SHOULD be able to run it without problems. I've got the Nvidia 8600 GT, which lets me run my uber games.

 

[Wuffle]

People waited 1 year for a patch,and it's dissapointing.

Orcs will now be reigning in Tournaments because of staff nerf/no more tower rushes,and OvU hasn't even changed!

Humans basically won't tower rush now,instead dragging game longer,maybe FE,but knight buff is so senseless when you nerfed their staff....

Undead gets good buffs I guess,zig and necro buff definatly encourages FE'ing.

Ne's are nerfed to death,exp bug will make ud vs ne imbalanced,Ne players prolly will switch to bear/hippo,staff nerf is bad for them too.

 

[Kwah]

I think that instead of playing melee maps we should all just forget about it, and make maps instead.

 

[Ash]

I think we've established 9001 times over that the patch sucks, I wish that people would read threads sometimes...

It always breaks up a good conversation :/

 

[EmawWyvern]

My patch hasn't had any problems so far, everything seems to be normal, to tell the truth I can't even notice what they changed. im USEast as well.

 

[Troll-Brain]

Well apparently, Blizzard changes a lot of hardcoded shit all the time. Seems this time, though, it just got buggier.

For example ?
Oh and i have got this message when i tried to open a map saved with the new patch. (I've patched but copy/paste the older worldedit.exe)

Careful

This map has been saved with a newer version of the editor.
Some data may not be compatible with this version.

Continue ? (yes or no)

Anyone has seen a change with the official editor or all change are hard coded ?

 

[Lich_King Wrath]

huh i have big problem with patch...
I installed it logged on B.Net and when i tryied play ladder i didn't have installed new maps -.-

 

[Chronicburn]

Well... I have an uber vista computer, I SHOULDN'T lag. Even when I host the game lags up.

Warcraft 3 was designed for xp, its not rare that you get errors in vista, i have lags too (also good vista computer)

 

[I)eadnerzhul]

It happens sometimes. The driver 'restarts' itself.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Warcraft 3 was designed for xp, its not rare that you get errors in vista, i have lags too (also good vista computer)

Funny, works perfectly with the new patch for me on vista.

 

[Eccho]

yeah, I totally agreed with you DSG.

However it did mess up on my xp... Regarding JNGP
Even though I copied we and found a 1.21 one, the syntax checkers stopped working, both we standard and the pJass (think its pJass?)
And yes everything is set as it should, but no.

Mwao, Im going to reinstall the game. Then it will hopefully work.

 

[Dr Super Good]

JNGP does not work. . . It used to before the patch but it does not work properly untill next version of JNGP fixes it.

 

[Eccho]

Alright, but it does work if you install 1.21, and then copy your 1.21 directory, and install 1.22 on the copied one. 100% sure on that, because it worked on my other comp.