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Vacation Wars - Goblins vs Dwarves

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Well, I was supposed to help a friend with creating a map and ended up making it myself instead. However, it has some kind of bug that doesn't allow me to test it anymore.

I'd appreciate any help i can get. I'm using the latest Jass NewGen 5d editor with the newest jass helper added on. It keeps bugging me. It should work, but it doesn't. It did before, so I don't really get it.

For whoever is interested, download the map and try it out. Can you play the map? I've crammed in some fancy systems and spells in there, so the map is kinda big.

As for story, well, it's more like an improved angel arena with a goblin vs dwarves twist to it all. Pretty much all heroes got custom spells, with the exception of the misc heroes and a few others that I can't fix due to the problem with testing.

Aaaaaaanyway, here's the map.

Edit:
Sorry for the bumps, for those that are curious how the game looks like, i'll add a screenshot for you guys to look at. Taken before the bug.

Edit x2:
For all you lazy people who can't scroll down.. download the 2.3 version. (The problem is fixed in this version.. it works there.) I'll upload it in this post as well.

Edit x3:
People keep downloading the 2.2 instead of the 2.3.. so i'm removing the 2.2
 

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1: Don't bump this every few minutes, its against the rules.
2: You can only bump every 48 hours according to the rules stated above.
3: When you bumped this, it was one of the first 8 topics anyways. So the bumps are not necessary.
4: I'll check out the map and see what I can find.

EDIT: I have no idea what the issue is (for those who wont download the map, it will attempt to load the map but return to the menu screen). It could the the fact that your map is 4 000kb, or you may have a broken, but undetected, line of JASS (I don't do jass) or some broken triggers (maybe an infinite loop or too, but it wouldn't stop the game from loading). The best suggestion I could give is: disable/cut the most recent triggers you created and try the game (IOW manually figure out which trigger is causing the problem) and then posting it in the Trigger&Scripts section.
 
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I've crammed in some fancy systems and spells in there, so the map is kinda big.

When you import some system to your map, always test your map. I do believe you have import or alter an jass script which cause the error of it.

nobody going to read all those vjass code just to find the errors, try to disable 1 jass trigger at a time, saves it and then test the map. If you found out the map to be playable after you disable certain trigger, then post the trigger code here.
 
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Hmm.

Well, it worked yesterday. There was some bugs with the current JNPG so I reinstalled it, then it didn't work. I still don't get why.
Come to think of it.. I might know what the problem is.. Will be editing this post after I've tried it.

Edit:
Fixed the map. I had the table library script, but nothing that really used it..
Try it out, comment and tell me what you think.. or quite possibly if you have any ideas.
 

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I don't get this.. There's over a hundred views on this project, meaning. A hundred people has seen this topic and left without saying anything..

Or downloading for that matter. The bigger projects is draining all the attention so that the little projects have no real purpose or are being forgotten.
My patience is running low, if I can't find help on this website, I'll look for a new one.
 
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That is because this thread look like a complete failure. Elaborate your map further instead of saying "I've crammed in some fancy systems and spells in there, so the map is kinda big." because such a description show the lack of professionalism and incentive towards your own map.

My patience is running low, if I can't find help on this website, I'll look for a new one.

I hate to burst your bubble, you are going to get the same result no matter which site you are on if you continue to post your thread that way. Here is an example of how your thread should look like.

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/map-development-202/everwood-unique-orpg-66835/

After I download your map and view the entire scripting, I don't think I want to play it at all. Your map have a huge memory leak in scripting which could resulted into an heavy fps drop, rendering it to be impossible to be playable after a period of time.

I suggest you to fix the memory leak first, the inefficient trigger are your first priority at this moment.
 
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Errr.

Exactly how do i do that? I'd say 99.999% is downloaded. The downloaded spells and systems was approved, so if they leak.. Well, I don't know how to fix it.
I'd appreciate a little more constructive criticism pointing out flaws and a way to fix them. I mean, had I known about the leaks, I'd fix that.. if i knew how.. which i don't.

Don't get me wrong, your opinion is nice and for pointing out the flaw, although not being very specific, it's something that needs to be fixed.. Just point me into the right direction and I'll get right on that.
Besides.. Why do I have to make the thread look sparkly and shiny and spam pictures just to get people to help me? It's kind a work in progress.. which is why i uploaded it in need of criticism and ideas.

I'm not a frigging advertising industry presenting a project, I'm a common man who made a map on a warcraft forum. I guess you are used to sparkly and overly elaborated rpg stories. Since I don't really have one, what do you expect me to do? I mean, okay, the forum is a majourity of twelve year olds who like shiny things, but come on. Can't you help me, without the sparkles?

After I download your map and view the entire scripting, I don't think I want to play it at all. Your map have a huge memory leak in scripting which could resulted into an heavy fps drop, rendering it to be impossible to be playable after a period of time.

I suggest you to fix the memory leak first, the inefficient trigger are your first priority at this moment.

How did you try the map without downloading it btw? the 2.3 version haven't been downloaded even once.
 
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The downloaded spells and systems was approved, so if they leak.. Well, I don't know how to fix it.

Those import spells/system doesn't leak, but those trigger you does is the one who leak.

Don't get me wrong, your opinion is nice and for pointing out the flaw, although not being very specific, it's something that needs to be fixed.. Just point me into the right direction and I'll get right on that.

I am not being specific or detail about it because memory leak are common and it was a basic knowledge for every map maker to knew about it and knew how to fix it. If you don't know about it especially when 80-90% of your trigger are leaking, there must be something wrong with you.

Besides.. Why do I have to make the thread look sparkly and shiny and spam pictures just to get people to help me? It's kind a work in progress.. which is why i uploaded it in need of criticism and ideas.

Like I say, you need to show professionalism in your work. Have ever anybody goes to job interview dressing in pajamas?

An organize description with proper structure show how much work and how detail you are when it comes to the development of the map. Posting such a poor description gives an rather negative impression to viewer that "You don't gives a fuck about the map as long as it was finish".

When you gives the person such a impression, they must have though "This map is a total failure and not worth to be play".

Prove? Hundreds of view and 0 reply for more than 24 hours, needless to say more?

If you want people to play your map or even help you, then proves to the people that you are serious about it. Surely that map making was a hobby, but you got to be serious and you got to have the incentives as well or it would never been completed or even if it does; would be in poor state.

Besides, map making are not restricted to one sector only.

I mean, okay, the forum is a majourity of twelve year olds who like shiny things, but come on. Can't you help me, without the sparkles?

You obviously have a wrong idea and definition of proper description. An proper description are description that are well organize instead of having a messy paragraph or a wall of text.

If you have no idea on what I mean, check our tutorial section. It have plenty of helpful guide of what to do and what not to do.

How did you try the map without downloading it btw? the 2.3 version haven't been downloaded even once.

I was viewing 2.2 before you even release the 2.3

I can assured you that you would continue to receive such a negative response regardless of which site you are on unless you take the incentive to improve it.

I'm a common man who made a map on a warcraft forum.

So does thousand of people over here including me.
 
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Hmm.

Actually, this is my third map. Got a link to those tutorial pages btw?
As for downloaded spells, they are working flawlessly. I've created like.. one or two from scratch.

As for leaks, are you sure you got the latest JNPG? Because there's a shitload of errors and messages if your jasshelper isn't brand new.

Also, try the frigging 2.3 version. That one should have less problems. If not, could you point out a few just to help me with what I have to look for?
 
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Actually, this is my third map. Got a link to those tutorial pages btw?

I have the urge to post rick astley video and say the line "Don't tell me you're too blind to see". -.-

It was at the bottom of the forum list.

As for leaks, are you sure you got the latest JNPG?

You obviously don't have idea about leaks.

JNGP work as a compiler and program tool to script JASS/VJASS and got nothing to do with the leaks.
 
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I have the urge to post rick astley video and say the line "Don't tell me you're too blind to see". -.-

It was at the bottom of the forum list.



You obviously don't have idea about leaks.

JNGP work as a compiler and program tool to script JASS/VJASS and got nothing to do with the leaks.

Of course i have no frigging idea about leaks. I told you i didn't.
 
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kk.. may any 1 tell me what leaks in his map?

the only spell i found leaking was fatal strike, and i fixed it for him, and i sent him it, he'll probably upload it later, so.. if you find any leak somewhere, tell me what it is.. ill fix it for him..
 
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Ha HA! Now would be a good time to bump. Dardas did some double checking and found numerous leaks, the thing is, it seems to be from the map i based it on. Meaning that angel arena leaks worse than a dam does when it's generating electricity. Gonna contact him as soon as I can, not tomorrow, but the day after that. With that said..

BUMP!

Will edit the first post and add the newest version when I can.
 
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