Two Mur'gul Slave models?

[Hermit]

Multiple Mur'gul Slave models?

I noticed there are two different versions of the Mur'gul Slave model.
The first one has few small spikes on its back:

The second one has much longer spikes, like all other Mur'guls:

I only have the one with small spikes and i saw the other one all over the internet. Is the other one previous or beta version, or is it hidden somewhere in the MPQ? I would really like to have the other one, can i get it somehow?

 

[TriggerHappy]

I can't find it either.

You can try changing the RGB tint of the other murlocs with longer spikes to look like that, or look for Warcraft 3 Beta online and search the MPQ archives it has.
Oh, and this should probably be in WEHZ.

 

[Hermit]

RGB tint can darken, but can't lighten units (because white tint is impossible). By the way it is the only weaponless and shieldless mur'gul, and even if I change the texture of a different one, it would have completely different animations (Other mur'guls and murlocs don't have gold carrying, lumber carrying, work/repair,... animations, so they can't be worker/builder units). Also, the second one has more sinister looking face (visible on my screenshot), and just looks cooler than the first one, imo.

 

[saphiree]

Maybe one of them is the model which is used in the campaign where you have to escape an island with a runner, and the murlocs have different dig sites.

 

[Hermit]

Sadly they don't appear in campaign maps, well not in my campaign at least.
I attached some new screenshots of the model:


I also found out another mysterious murloc model exists(or existed).
It has a flipper thing on its back instead of spikes:

Does anyone know what happened to these models and are they even possible to find?

 

[Footman16]

If you go to the object editor under the model file you'll find extra versions. If you double click it you will get two boxes one will say Frozen Throne the other Reign of Chaos. The RoC is the flipper one the Frozen Throne the spiked one.

 

[Hermit]

If you go to the object editor under the model file you'll find extra versions. If you double click it you will get two boxes one will say Frozen Throne the other Reign of Chaos. The RoC is the flipper one the Frozen Throne the spiked one.

Mur'gul Slave model does not have any versions i already checked that field (Art - Model File - Extra Versions) and browsed the MPQ archive but nothing.

 

[Hermit]

Bump...

 

[Footman16]

Have you tried getting the maps themselves out of the MPQ and checking if there are any imports?

 

[Hermit]

Yes i tried that, but all imports are Naga player score screen icons or AI scripts, no sign of any models.

 

[StoPCampinGn00b]

Maybe they can tell you.

 

[Hermit]

That was entertaining, but not very helpful.

 

[Hermit]

Bump...

 

[Kino]

Is your model detail setting set to low/medium by any chance?

 

[Hermit]

Is your model detail setting set to low/medium by any chance?

I would have never thought of that myself! Have some reputation. Still, is there any way to get the model without reducing the quality of all other models. According to Rao Dao Zao's post in this thread: https://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/warcraft-discussion-99/video-setting-model-quality-194860/ it is possible, but I don't know where are those war3Med.mpq and war3Low.mpq archives that he mentions.

 

[PurgeandFire]

Yes, those MPQ's are inside war3.mpq and war3x.mpq.

In war3.mpq, it should be in the root directory named "War3_low.mpq" and "War3_med.mpq", then you can just open those and navigate the files. In war3x.mpq, they should be named "War3x_low.mpq" and "War3x_med.mpq".

If you don't see those in the main folder, then you may be using an incomplete listfile. Just say what MPQ editor you're using, and we can give you instructions on how to view those mpq's. After that, it is as simple as opening the mpq, finding the model, extracting it, and using it in your map.

 

[Hermit]

Yes, those MPQ's are inside war3.mpq and war3x.mpq.

In war3.mpq, it should be in the root directory named "War3_low.mpq" and "War3_med.mpq", then you can just open those and navigate the files. In war3x.mpq, they should be named "War3x_low.mpq" and "War3x_med.mpq".

If you don't see those in the main folder, then you may be using an incomplete listfile. Just say what MPQ editor you're using, and we can give you instructions on how to view those mpq's. After that, it is as simple as opening the mpq, finding the model, extracting it, and using it in your map.

Thank you for your detailed explanation, mighty moderator (+rep).