Tumbler

[Moderator]

20:54, 13th Aug 2010
ap0calypse: Rejected

 

[Septimus]

sounds boring and just like another madball arena, what kind of mode and other feature apart from what you mention above?

 

[meatfactory]

sounds boring and just like another madball arena, what kind of mode and other feature apart from what you mention above?

Why don't you play the game first and then comment?

 

[Septimus]

Why don't you play the game first and then comment?

nothing personal, it's just that boring description that sounds a lot just like another map doesn't make anybody appealling enough to download it.

Why not add some screenshot or video to your description along with detail of what makes this map different than other map of the same genre out there? It doesn't hurt you to do it.

 

[meatfactory]

nothing personal, it's just that boring description that sounds a lot just like another map doesn't make anybody appealling enough to download it.

Why not add some screenshot or video to your description along with detail of what makes this map different than other map of the same genre out there? It doesn't hurt you to do it.

Yeah well even if a map has a good description with enought eye-candy that doesn't meen that it's gonna be good content. Like some of your maps I could mention nothing personal

P.S. Don't judge a book by it' cover

 

[Septimus]

Yeah well even if a map has a good description with enought eye-candy that doesn't meen that it's gonna be good content. Like some of your maps I could mention nothing personal

P.S. Don't judge a book by it' cover

Well, a good packaging is what it need to allure customer to purchase it.

The same goes to here as well. Sort of like business marketing where you gotta make something sound as interesting and as good as possible.

Good content or not, it was decide by the community itself and about 80% of all my map was just done with the objective of reaching the min approval requirement at hive and be bugless. To be frankly honest, I only start to be serious in 1 project lately.

It been my past experience that author that did not put proper description about their map often did not have enough incentive to work out the map quality standard even to the min standard. Of course, your map does have proper description; it just that it lack of interesting package.

 

[meatfactory]

Added some screens... hope your happy now

 

[Khaled]

Yeah well even if a map has a good description with enought eye-candy that doesn't meen that it's gonna be good content. Like some of your maps I could mention nothing personal

P.S. Don't judge a book by it' cover

No one has time to think if that book would be cool or not

 

[meatfactory]

50 downloads and still not one useful comment ... such a shame

 

[-Kobas-]

Ok I don't know how to say this but I will tell you few things you can like them or not, but thrust me nothing personal about it, just professional!

Ok I saw your map and first thing that I can see is map review, then I think 2 ogres strange name wtf is this! I open map! then I see playable size 32x32 see map category and type, and I think how can this one be good map with only 32x32 but I want to check more, I check map description, damn no colors, tables, video, poor screenshots without description about them, I read few thing about description, then I move mouse pointer to map preview to see terrain, looks ok for this kind of map so I still don't know everything about it, and at the end see this 351.15 KB! Now I know 50% about your map you can thrust me or not!

ok let see.... 351.15 KB means:
you have map preview that means in best way 200 KB
so map has 151.15 KB left
now come imported stuff like Loading Screen dude no room for that, no models no skins no nothing just base blizzard models!
Terrain alone takes 25 KB maybe more
So you use 100 KB for triggers and all else stuff

Dude I don't need to try map, I know that it is bad!

 

[meatfactory]

Ok I don't know how to say this but I will tell you few things you can like them or not, but thrust me nothing personal about it, just professional!

Ok I saw your map and first thing that I can see is map review, then I think 2 ogres strange name wtf is this! I open map! then I see playable size 32x32 see map category and type, and I think how can this one be good map with only 32x32 but I want to check more, I check map description, damn no colors, tables, video, poor screenshots without description about them, I read few thing about description, then I move mouse pointer to map preview to see terrain, looks ok for this kind of map so I still don't know everything about it, and at the end see this 351.15 KB! Now I know 50% about your map you can thrust me or not!

ok let see.... 351.15 KB means:
you have map preview that means in best way 200 KB
so map has 151.15 KB left
now come imported stuff like Loading Screen dude no room for that, no models no skins no nothing just base blizzard models!
Terrain alone takes 25 KB maybe more
So you use 100 KB for triggers and all else stuff

Dude I don't need to try map, I know that it is bad!

You got a point about some of the stuff... but still you did not play it and such arguments are not aways true and an opinion such as that (judged before even trying it does not speak very good for your so called professionalism). Just imagine that there are custom models that are actually using in-game textures. Yes there are not allot of custom models but there are some. Flashy descriptions does not aways guarantee a well made map. In game style, I think it's really unique (to my point of view because I have never seen something like it uploaded here) though it needs some minor tweaks at the moment. And a real professional would actually try it before posting a comment and risk being wrong am I right? I'm not saying your gonna like it and I doubt even if you do that you will say it but just give it a try and then comment.

 

[Cweener]

Needs fix.

Please add to your description, so I can properly review this.

 

[Deolrin]

Oh god. Where did this section degrade? You people are fucking judging a map by the amount of custom models? By the description?

Wow. That's it... I officially declare it, we are EpicWar 2.0.

 

[-Kobas-]

Oh god. Where did this section degrade? You people are fucking judging a map by the amount of custom models? By the description?

Wow. That's it... I officially declare it, we are EpicWar 2.0.

Ahahhaha we are not we just increased, call it, map control quality
I can write review if ya want?

 

[Deolrin]

BEFORE you judge\review\moderate a map, you MUST download it, play it THOROUGHLY(which means NOT for 1 minute or so), and with the recommended amount of players. Otherwise your review is worth NOTHING(except for ap0calypse who apparently rejected the map because the description looked like the map is bad).

Linaze was the last good map moderator... And look what happened; PurplePoot quit because that's how hopeless the Hive has became, then of course he quit. Great...

 

[-Kobas-]

BEFORE you judge\review\moderate a map, you MUST download it, play it THOROUGHLY(which means NOT for 1 minute or so), and with the recommended amount of players. Otherwise your review is worth NOTHING(except for ap0calypse who apparently rejected the map because the description looked like the map is bad).

Linaze was the last good map moderator... And look what happened; PurplePoot quit because that's how hopeless the Hive has became, then of course he quit. Great...

Maybe you are right but I see that you didn't checked my work so far
Np isn't big deal!
Point is that I can give nice suggestions and show people bad stuff about their maps, so far there was only 1 map that really impressed me, because I wanted to give mark above 3/5 I played map few times with friends checking stuff like balance etc!
Map name is Scars of War, created by Skar
and I give 4/5 at the end!
After all, all this is only my opinion! If user don't like my rating, comment etc he can ask stuff to remove it from map!

 

[meatfactory]

Oh god. Where did this section degrade? You people are fucking judging a map by the amount of custom models? By the description?

Wow. That's it... I officially declare it, we are EpicWar 2.0...

BEFORE you judge\review\moderate a map, you MUST download it, play it THOROUGHLY(which means NOT for 1 minute or so), and with the recommended amount of players. Otherwise your review is worth NOTHING(except for ap0calypse who apparently rejected the map because the description looked like the map is bad).

FINALLY! Someone that talks some sense. I had a talk with ap0calypse and asked him why he rejected the map and... well see for your self and think is this how a moderator should act or judge a resource.

Chat

Ahm... http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/tumbler-169175/#post1675196 Rejected? Care to comment on this? Have you even tried it or is it the 2nd time you look at the comment of -kobas- without even taking your time to test it? The map really needs an update but rejecting it is a bit... extreme. And since it's in the "needs fix" section what do you think needs fixing?

My complaint: look at the status before complaining.
This color: temp. rejected (aka "Needs fix").
This color: perm. rejected (aka "Rejected").

Instead of ranting on about your map being permanently rejected, look at the actual status.
It will reset to pending once the map's been updated.

My complaint: look at the status before complaining.
This color: temp. rejected (aka "Needs fix").
This color: perm. rejected (aka "Rejected").

Instead of ranting on about your map being permanently rejected, look at the actual status.
It will reset to pending once the map's been updated.

I DID noticed that and didn't "rant" about it being permanently rejected ->

And since it's in the "needs fix" section ...

And you did not answer my questions.

"rejecting it is a bit... extreme."
Look, it is NOT extreme: it is one of the most commong things on the hive, far more common than approving maps.
And if you look at the pending stats, you can see a "0 pending maps" somewhere, so we basically HAD to moderate your map.
If a map doesn't qualify the current standards, I reject it - leaving it pending wouldn't be productive at all.

Just fix what you think needs fixing, I didn't download your map.

The point is there is nothing to fix and if you have bothered to test it you would know that (everything is working fine and map is fully playable in multiplayer) the only thing that I have in mind by updating it is just adding some skills and items and improving AI [optional].
There are no errors in the game.
So if I understand correct by saying:

Just fix what you think needs fixing, I didn't download your map.

you just put it under "needs fix" without any kind of testing... very unprofessional. That is kind of insulting after the work I put in this!

*sigh*, whatever.
I won't reply anymore.
Not in the mood, go whine at someone else, I'm tired of being whined at.
Unprofessional? Sure, whatever you say! If you knew how it actually worked, then maybe I would've cared.

 

[-Kobas-]

Dude that above is PM chat! You shouldn't do that!
And to get back to point as soon as I finish with my stuff and some problems I will review this map for ya, is that ok!

 

[Deolrin]

Holy fuck. I'm bringing this up to Ralle, I don't care. This is a really retarded moderation.

 

[-Kobas-]

Well I just finished game: me against nothing

Honestly idea is fantastic, I really like this game!
But still no more than 1/5 from me and that means rejection!
Why because of Bad Type:Arena, Mini-Game, Miscellanous / Other (use just Mini-Game)
and really poor description, check links about map descriptions in my signature and try to improve it a little

I don't have nothing against ya but map can't be approved without description!
Create one and I will vote for 2/5!

Why not approval, well you must wait for review (tomorrow I guess)

 

[Deolrin]

-Kobas-... How can you call yourself a reviewer? You just stated that you LOVE the game. Then you give it 1/5, e.g. Unacceptable, because it has no godamn description on the Hive?

 

[takakenji]

i agree with debode.

play the fucking map.

it goes the same for models, you need to actually download and test a model or else you could be approving glitchy shit which looks cool on the screenshot or great shit that looks bad on the screenshot.

 

[-Kobas-]

takakenji pls read my post above, I played map...
Nah there is no point to continue with this, I go write review and leave this thread!

EDIT:

Tumbler
Created by meatfactory ; Uploaded by: meatfactory
Map size: 351.15 KB

1st - Idea
2nd - How you used Sound Manager
3th - How you used Import manager
4th - Gameplay

1st - Map Description
2nd - Ingame Description / Custom GI
3th - Triggers
4th - Memory Leaks

Click

Idea:

Idea is epic, ball throwing, grabbing etc is fantastic!
Finally something unique.

Map description:

Map Description is really poor!
Why we bothering ya about it?

The reason why a good description is necessary is to encourage players to play your game.
It will grip the attention of people who (accidentally) pass by, attention is one of the basic things a map must have, otherwise it will be forgotten in the thousands and thousands of maps on battle.net.

Every time someone passes by your map and pays attention to the description, is a step closer for your map to get famous soon.
Not only will it get famous: more people will respond, more people will find bugs, more people will try to help you and not only the map will get better, but it might be possible that you improve your own mapping skills.

by ap0calypse

Here are some useful links:
The importance of a Description [09 May 2009 17:41]ap0calypse
BB Code List: Click
Color List: Click
Map Description Templates
Need pictures for your map Description? - Come here!

Ingame description / Custom GI:

Grrr this one is really bad, you just changed upkeep status to your name...

Remove that lumber icon, same for gold (if you don't use them)
Why not to do that this way!
Gold Icon can be changed into Speed Icon

It show player his movement speed for example
Lumber can be changed into Luck

Increase chance to steal ball, pick same and so on
Food icon can be changed into score point

0/3 -> No Score, when you score 1 point this can be increased to 1/3
Once when you reach 3/3 It can be show on screen!
OMG PLAYER NAME just scored Hattrick!
This can increase your luck and reduce same for enemy player!

You can also use moral instead of speed etc etc

Now about damage armor icons, grrr you can add whole set of possibilities there!
Hero stats can be changed also!

Recolor GI a little!

Ability icons are bad, check link below so I don't need to explain why...

Multiboard is fine, nothing to comment about it for now!
Maybe few more hints, how to play etc etc in quest log (can be changed also into "Map Info" for example)

Here check this link, maybe will you learn some new stuff...
Polishing Your Game [24 May 2010 15:55]N1ghthawk

Terrain:

Terrain is really good for this map type!
Nothing to comment about it

Some terrain links so other users as well as you can check them and learn thing or 2!

Click and find out

Beginners F.A.Q To Terraining [22 May 2009 21:18]iPeez
Creating a Dungeon Entrance [07 Oct 2009 14:07]X-OMG-X
Creating Rivers with Rolling Shores [31 Dec 2006 21:56]1337D00D
Editing Cliff Skins [02 Jan 2009 20:17]Argus
How to Make Easy Waterfalls [10 Nov 2009 08:38]RoboHippo
How to make good looking lava in WE [03 Feb 2010 13:50]Piwlady
How to remove Blight's green clouds [26 Oct 2009 04:11]Stathisdjs
iPeez's Complete Terraing Tutorial v1.0 [18 Jan 2009 18:38]iPeez
Natural Environments [30 Aug 2008 21:42]~Void~
Pathing - Everything about it [01 Jan 2010 18:33]Dr. Boom
Playable Terrain: Islands [06 Sep 2008 08:41]Belgarath
Playable Terrain: Overgrown Forests [03 May 2008 01:27]Belgarath
Polishing Your Game [25 May 2010 00:55]N1ghthawk
Terrain Overgoes - a small guide [28 Sep 2009 04:33]Belgarath
Terrain: Advanced Lighting [13 Feb 2008 05:41]~Void~
Terrain: Forest Cliffs [06 May 2007 11:48]Jattenalle
Terraining - Path by the Sea [16 Feb 2008 02:23]Belgarath
Terraining Tut. - Forests [04 Dec 2006 03:52]HernanG
The Ultimate Beginners Terrain Tutorial [12 Jun 2007 13:31]HermanTheGibbon
Various Terraining Tips! [17 Sep 2009 21:59]Revolve

Well I attached links to few tut here on THW and to their Authors!
Some are easy some are for advanced users!

Some have little to do with terrain some much more!
Pls at least scroll down each one just to check pictures!

If you really want to learn how to terrain, check also other sites like
http://world-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/
http://www.wc3c.net/
and others...

open maps, check terrain contest etc etc, check terrain board and people showcases, explore user albums, search Hive... You can always ask some user for help, join to Chat room sometimes (http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/apps.php?p=gochat)

2 Much work to do right...

Triggers:

I saw 2 many memory leaks in your triggers and that is bad!
Also btw check this one!

Click

• XPCleaner
  • Events
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • B_PlayerHasBall[1] Equal to False
      • Then - Actions
        • Hero - Set U_Player[1] Hero-level to 1, Hide level-up graphics
        • Hero - Add (0 - (Hero experience of U_Player[1])) experience to U_Player[1], Hide level-up graphics
        • Hero - Set U_Player[1] experience to 0, Hide level-up graphics
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • B_PlayerHasBall[2] Equal to False
      • Then - Actions
        • Hero - Set U_Player[2] Hero-level to 1, Hide level-up graphics
        • Hero - Add (0 - (Hero experience of U_Player[2])) experience to U_Player[2], Hide level-up graphics
        • Hero - Set U_Player[2] experience to 0, Hide level-up graphics
      • Else - Actions
• ...

Can be replaced with

• XPCleaner
  • Events
  • Conditions
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • B_PlayerHasBall[(Player number of (Owner of (Killing unit)))] Equal to False
      • Then - Actions
        • Hero - Set U_Player[(Player number of (Owner of (Killing unit)))] Hero-level to 1, Hide level-up graphics
        • Hero - Add (0 - (Hero experience of U_Player[(Player number of (Owner of (Killing unit)))])) experience to U_Player[(Player number of (Owner of (Killing unit)))], Hide level-up graphics
        • Hero - Set U_Player[(Player number of (Owner of (Killing unit)))] experience to 0, Hide level-up graphics
      • Else - Actions
    • -------- Or just use --------
    • Custom script: set bj_wantDestroyGroup = true
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units in (Playable map area)) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Hero - Disable experience gain for (Picked unit)

To increase it's quality!
(Owner of (Killing unit)) can be changed with VARIABLE in Respawn trigger!

Just check tutorials below, maybe will you learn something and increase your skills!

Trigger tutorials:

Click again

2D Array Tutorial [10 Aug 2008 11:13]TriggerHappy
A Collection of GUI Systems > Basic to Advanced (Incomplete) [27 Aug 2008 19:36]Kwah
Advanced votekick tutorial just 6 triggers needed [06 Jan 2008 02:46]marcotjuhhhh
Aquiring Abilities with Items [09 Dec 2007 11:29]PiCkstix
Array Tutorial [13 May 2005 15:10]Draqz
Arrow Key Movement / Camera System [14 Nov 2007 22:32]OneEight7even
Basic Memory Leaks [03 Jan 2006 07:48]Ralle
Basic Triggering [03 Jan 2006 07:11]Ralle
Basics of a Cinematic [28 Aug 2006 09:02]Archian
Basics of a Dialog [06 Mar 2007 17:09]Orc_Tamer
Basics of Trigger Enhancing Spells [26 Nov 2006 07:53]Daelin
Basics of Triggers [03 Apr 2007 14:40]Archian
Buying abilitys [08 Aug 2007 14:55]Parrothead
Chapter 1 - Static shapes (GUI) [26 Nov 2006 08:16]Daelin
Chapter 2 - Dynamic Effects (GUI) [26 Nov 2006 08:05]Daelin
Coloured Names [26 Dec 2009 23:20]sPy
Complete and Concise GUI Tutorial [27 Dec 2008 16:56]Zypher
Complete GUI Trigger Index/List [20 Oct 2006 09:17]Knights
Create a sucessfull timer with window (reuploaded) [07 Sep 2008 09:05]Cheezeman
Create precise timing cinematic using real variable [22 Apr 2009 21:54]Septimus
Creating a First Person Camera [06 Aug 2008 06:58]Magamdy
Creating a Hero Pick System: The Easier Way. [30 Dec 2007 11:51]Shantari
Creating a Votekick System [07 Nov 2007 21:34]1)ark_NiTe
Creating Easy Multi-User Quests [15 Aug 2007 10:02]The_Big_S
Creating Enterable/Exitable Houses [25 Feb 2008 19:49]Tekal
Creating some basic abilities [22 Apr 2007 04:45]paskovich
Creep Respawn (GUI) [13 Apr 2008 16:05]SkriK
Difficulty System - The Easy Way [05 Jun 2009 16:39]hunalexnl
Dynamic Values Storage [25 Mar 2009 12:28]Kingz
Essentials Tutorial [22 Aug 2009 06:25]Deuterium
Exploration of Vertex Coloring [20 Jan 2007 11:45]chovynz
Flexible Arrow Key Movement System [23 Apr 2010 16:03]RazorbladeRay
Full Menus and Buttons Toturial [15 Apr 2008 05:57]xXCRIMINALXx
Game Caches [18 Mar 2006 06:18]Bob27
Gamespeed Keys [04 Oct 2007 14:22]Saitek009
GUI - Hero Click-Selection (Advanced) [04 Oct 2007 13:27]Fulla
Hashtables and MUI [26 Jun 2009 11:54]wyrmlord
Hero Defense Template [25 Jan 2008 23:02]vnakira
Hero Selection Systems [20 Aug 2007 06:33]Eleandor
Hero Selection Systems [23 Mar 2007 15:03]Tonks
How to begin in triggering, for the complete noob [24 Jan 2009 12:45]hawk_767
How to make a Chain spell (GUI Version) [13 Aug 2006 12:09]Daelin
How to make a Find that Person Quest. [11 Apr 2008 11:27]Dark Hunter1357
How to Make Buildable Gates [20 Apr 2008 16:48]Mashintao
How To Make Item Recipes [16 May 2007 09:29]Tooolbox
How to make Professions [14 Sep 2008 06:59]Airandius
How to make slow motion special effects [28 Nov 2007 15:27]nathanman
How to trigger Auto-cast (Arrow) Abilities [26 Apr 2010 14:05]Stonebludgeon
IDS (Infinite Number of Item Classes) [29 Mar 2010 06:59]-Kobas-
Introduction To Trigger-Enhancing Spells [27 Jul 2004 13:32]whitenights
Item-drop-system [06 Mar 2009 11:05]SlayerII
Leaderboards [10 Aug 2006 06:18]Archian
Lumber/Food Clock [25 Oct 2009 06:44]Arowanna92
Making a full TD [Reviewed: Ralle] [27 Jun 2008 12:51]Ostaph13
Making a Grenade Type Spell [14 Jul 2008 20:07]PrisonLove
Making a Maze [11 Feb 2009 11:40]DarkLordX
Making an Open Rpg [12 Jan 2006 01:43]Ralle
Making any Spell Autocasting [15 Mar 2006 13:49]Ralle
Making Elevators [25 Nov 2008 06:58]cool_is_i
Multi-Instancible GUI Spell Making [26 May 2007 11:56]wyrmlord
Multiboard Counter [30 Dec 2008 09:30]Squiggy
Multiboards [11 Apr 2006 04:41]Bob27
Multiple Creep Spawn System [12 Apr 2007 07:05]DoOs_101
Off-site Tutorials [14 Sep 2009 12:52]Pyritie
Point To Point Unit System [25 Jan 2009 22:59]rover2341
PSN Hero Selection [23 Nov 2007 06:52]Kieve
Quests [22 Feb 2006 23:15]Bob27
RDZ's Incredible Item Stacking System of Doom [05 Oct 2005 12:28]Rao Dao Zao
Reviving Heroes at a Changeable Region [23 Mar 2010 00:35]dOT145
Save/Load Compression [28 Aug 2008 08:02]Hoernchen
Simple Triggered Hero Artificial Intelligence in GUI [02 May 2007 03:38]DenZel94
Spells - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) [25 Jul 2004 13:27]The_Raven
Spells Importing Tutorial [26 Nov 2006 07:58]Daelin
Stacking Items [21 Dec 2007 11:36]DigitalDemon
Starting with GUI [21 Mar 2008 06:51]Lord_of_sausage
TaaZ's Item System [26 Jul 2005 21:08]TaaZ
The mysteries of the Spellbook [27 Apr 2007 13:36]Diablo-dk
Torch System [25 Jan 2009 15:27]Belgarath
Variables [03 Jan 2006 08:37]Ralle
[GUI] Efficient Arrays - Multiinstanceabilty for Timers, Custom Values, and more [27 Aug 2008 12:04]PurplePoot
[Reviewed: BlinkBoy] Understanding triggers and creating them. [20 Aug 2008 15:52]Zypher

I want to say that I posted only GUI tutorials that can be found on THW you can also visit many other sites like wc3c or the helper net etc etc...
Why GUI, well I know Jass a little, I can understand but I can't explain it, so I posted only stuff that I can help you with!
Also if someone see that some new tutorials are uploaded or maybe deleted tell me so I can fix list, thanks!

Memory Leaks:

• If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
  • If - Conditions
    • (Player 1 (Red) slot status) Equal to Is playing
  • Then - Actions
    • Unit - Create 1 Ogre Warlord for Player 1 (Red) at (Center of Re 1I1 <gen>) facing 270.00 degrees
    • Set U_Player[1] = (Last created unit)
    • Camera - Pan camera for Player 1 (Red) to (Position of U_Player[1]) over 0.00 seconds
  • Else - Actions

(Center of Re 1I1 <gen>)
and
(Position of U_Player[1])
will create memory leak
If you checked tutorials above then here is no point to comment more about this one!

Also btw, this triggers are just example, there is other bad thing there as well!

How you used Import Manager:

No large mp3 files, no LS with more than 1 MB, no uber large textures etc
Looks cool!

But I didn't see custom loading screen, maybe you should get some!

How you used Object Editor:

Everything is organized nicely

How you used Sound Editor:

You used sound in your map and that is ok!
Epic effect for each different action!

Gameplay:

Gameplay is really great, I really liked how is ball throwed!
But as usually I will comment only bad stuff and give suggestions!

There is no any difficulty, game mode or something like that!
Bad thing, game can become boring and people will stop playing it after a while!

All units are same, grrrrr

Create races!
Ogres (the strongest, the slowest) -> Can stun and knockback enemy units sometimes while attacking
Humans (normal, normal) -> No idea right now
Undead (weak, the fastest) -> Can jump

I think that you get point

Then create different units for each race:
Ogres for example:

Basic Runner (the fastest units here, good for quick bashing enemy units)

Goalkeeper (slow, but large chance to get ball from others, has fireball ability for example)

Stunner (slow, and the most powerful of all, has bash, and stun abilities)

Etc etc, you see that there is just 2 many different possibilities!

You can create more random events like that spikes!
Create tornado, earthquake etc etc

This map is really awesome project so far!
I really liked how you created physic in your game!
But unfortunately it don't have proper description, some triggers are bad, we saw memory leaks!
Map Type is wrong!
There is no gameplay commands (change camera, music etc) or modes (slow, fast, funny, normal, hard and so on) that can increase game quality even more!

I will give you rep because idea is fantastic!
So far only 1/5 from me, but I can't wait to see some updates, and improved versions!
Good luck with your project!
And for the end my last words:

The Hive includes many talented Warcraft III modders of all skill levels among its users. New members (especially friendly ones) are always welcome. Take a look around and enjoy your stay, may it be long and productive!

Some good places to start include:

• The Important Site Rules
• Your User Control Panel
• Warcraft III Tutorials
• Cool Avatars
• Search The Hive
• Community Members
• The Hive Workshop Staff
• THW Chat

Searching the site using the above link always helps, you can learn a lot that way: just reading and learning is usually the best place to start, especially if one feels overwhelmed.

Likewise, the tutorials can really teach ALL of us a thing or two.
The chat room is cool: lots of people can answer questions there.

A few other tips that might help too:
-Always search first! Did I already mention THAT?
-When creating a new thread, make the title VERY specific: so the site's search engine (and we users) can easily understand just what the thread contains.
-Post your new threads in the proper forum: read the descriptions of each one so that you know what to post there.
-If all else fails, just send me a private message! I'll try to do whatever I can to help.

For new users:
If map isn't finished jet, use Map Development forum for that! You can make thread there upload your map so people can tell you what they think just like here! Also for any help with triggers or how to clean memory leaks post triggers and create threads here Triggers & Scripts! Btw if you need any help with WE we have World Editor Help Zone here on THW! And at the end if you need any resource from icons to loading screens check this out Requests!

I hope that my comment helps even a little so you can improve your map, if you want to know more, or just simple ask for something else I will try to help for sure!

Final mark:

 

[Hero_Lief]

^ No comment whatsoever.

 

[Vengeancekael]

Improve the description:
-Info
-Screenshots (They're not showing up)
-Videos
-Tips
-Changelog
-Credits
-....

BB codes.

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Breaking any rules:

Yes one (actually two), your description is not very attractive right now.
Next there are a few leaks, however not hundreds of leaks.
These 2 points can easily be fixed, for the description use these BB codes.

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The Rules:


Original Work
Maps must be significantly worked on, or entirely created, by their submitter.

Originality
Maps must be distinctively different from other maps in concept. This may include story, gameplay, goals, etc, but restricts maps which are effectively clones of older versions, such as most LOAP and Footman Wars maps.

Gameplay
Maps must be fairly fun and decently balanced.

Presentation
Maps must have adequate spelling and grammar. Maps must contain a valid author and map name. Maps must contain a proper description of what the map is about.

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Map quality:

[Short Review]
Gameplay:

[+] Multiboard
[+] AI
[+] Abilities
[-] Throwing skill is a little glitchy
[-] Custom Music

Terrain:

[+] Ok for its type of map

Originality:

There are some other mini games that are like this one, but it does differ a little, for example you can steal the ball without having to kill your target.

Overall: Well since you are breaking a few rules, you will need to improve the description and remove the leaks if you want your map to be approved.

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However judging the map itself, it's a 3/5 from me.
Just improve the description and I will contact a moderator to approve it.

 

[Mr. Bob]

Woah woah woah wtf.

This has got to be the worst user reaction to a map I've ever seen. Seriously wtf guys. The description has nothing to do with the map's quality. Don't judge the map based on the description...just tell him to fix the description.

Also, regarding ap0calypse. That is the worst moderation I've ever seen. Ever. Seriously wtf are you thinking. Play the map before you tell him its screwed.

I mean wtf. "Just fix what you think needs fixing, I didn't download your map."

 

[Hero_Lief]

^ /agree

 

[Deolrin]

Finally, someone noticed it. Completely agreed.