Troll Campaign v2.02

[muaddib]

i tested on classic [ i just own that version ], and workd like a charm on 1.31.

 

[frostwhisper]

Classic. Classic all the way.

 

[Ianfire Hawklight]

I Really don't know what to do to solve the riddle in chapter 3

 

[The Nightmare Book]

Decided to start my humble walkthrough of this fantastic campaign. Just from the first cinematic I see the author's passion, and I like this theme.
Fully recommend this campaign to anyone.

Spoiler: chp 1 - 3

 

[Uncle Risech]

I Really don't know what to do to solve the riddle in chapter 3

Click on the hero with riddle in inventory, then open the game menu and take a look at the riddle icon.

 

[VanAndro]

Played on 1.30.4

Impressive! I knew there was still a lot of potential in these old patches.
Now, let's get straight to the game:

Chap.1 - Minor flaws related to the background music and Oriss's voice. As the guards close the doors, the background music stops. If you save the game and then load it, the problem is resolved; however, Oriss's voice may be missing entirely or partially:

• it's partially when you only get feedback when you click on the character icon
• it's completely when you don't have any audible response from the character

Save the game again and reload it and the problems disappear.

Enemies (trolls) that stand in one place in groups of 2-3: if you don't attack them, you can go close to them and they will not react. You can be right next to them and attack only one unit and the other 1-2 don't react at all. I didn't see any indication that they were sleeping. I think these groups were located in the swampy area of the map.

The battles with the dinosaur and the ice revenant are too easy. There are no dynamics in their behavior and no surprises; they remain imperceptible obstacles.

Chap.2 - Headhunter (350 hp) + Raptor (400 hp) = Raptor Rider (750 hp)
When you upgrade the Raptor (+120 hp), if you already have Raptor Riders ready, they will remain at 750 hp instead of 870 hp. You must unmount a Headhunter from its Raptor and then remount it for the upgrade to take effect for all Raptor Riders.

The background music stops again after obtaining the main and side quests. The "Save" and "Load" game functions resolve the issue.

Regarding the flying creatures, the description of each unit states: "Attacks land units" or "Attacks land and air units." However, in reality, both the Rendar and Ravager, as well as the Raptor, can attack the flying creatures.

Chap.3 - AI can talk, but it can't solve riddles. Neither can I. That's why we both play chess.

Chap.4 - In large quantities (12 pieces), some of the units, including the heroes, fail to pass through the tunnels and begin to wander. The reason for this is the accumulation of a large number of units wishing to pass. Those who do not start to wander manage to get through.

There is a high chance that loading a saved game will result in overall lag in the movement (and attack) of all friendly trolls.

I was also struck by the fact that the visual effect is completely missing when you upgrade an item. After reflecting on this, I realized that it has been absent since Chapter 3. It's a shame because I really liked it.

Chap.5 - The optional quest is not counted as completed once it has been finished.

Chap.6 - When you reach the final boss, pressing the ESC key to skip the cutscene causes you to leave the map instantly and return to the beginning of the level—a dark map where the enemies have already been defeated. You must move back to the boss and watch the cutscene, as it is necessary. Additionally, the music stops; it is fixed in the manner previously described.

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Throughout the campaign, I was unable to sell a single item in Kruppe's shop. I had the impression that it was designed solely for purchases. However, I encountered no issues with the Kobold store.

Favorite character - Bwonsamdi. Favorite level - The Necropolis.
Congratulations. Impressive work. You managed to make me completely immersed in the atmosphere of the game. Thank you.

 

[Ianfire Hawklight]

Decided to start my humble walkthrough of this fantastic campaign. Just from the first cinematic I see the author's passion, and I personally like this theme.
Fully recommend this campaign to anyone.

Click on the hero with riddle in inventory, then open the game menu and take a look at the riddle icon.

thanks man!

 

[Re uben]

The strategy is quite simple, yet may require above-average micro-managing skills.
Oriss got a "Hypnotic gaze" stun ability, Kruppe got a "Bad juju" silence ability. Kaldra's set summon got a "Throw rock" stun skill. Most of the time you need only to evade aoe-attacks of Kith'ix and effectively dispatch summoned nuisances, such as aqir drones, egg clutches, Void creatures and so on. Attacking main boss can be left on auto attack, except when he speak - only then you need to have a disable spell, one of the mentioned above, recharged and fast casted when the ring sounds. You'll have at max around 6 seconds to do it, then - game over. Highly advised to have a fast save after each succesful disable on main boss
That's pretty much it, good luck and have fun)

Thank for the info friend, by the way is there be possible sequel because there is a sign said to be continued

 

[Barade]

Looks really great and high quality and I also like that you upload the custom resources. Did you make the custom UI? I would like to use it for my own Troll race.

 

[Shadyorc97]

Absolutely insane campaign! As a massive troll fan, this was a dream come true. I NEED it to continue.

 

[Uraman]

The most vibe campaign I've ever played. Great job with the landscape, cinematics and backgrounds, "primal" Azeroth is captured perfectly.
The Troll race is simple but visually 10/10.
The voiceovers is the cherry on the cake.
A living classic for me, campaigns like this are to be treasured.

 

[Ahman]

Seems to be a really well-made campaign. I just finished chapter 1. That was a treat.It's kind of cheesy that the guardian of the dark stone speaks the same way the Frostmourne guardian does. However, it does have an unexpected ending in the conclusion of chapter 1. Anyways, I like the options you get in cut-scenes. That increases the immersion and the amount of effort that went into this campaign really pushes the limits of Warcraft 3, in my opinion.

I may write an EDIT after I finish the campaign if I have more thoughts to share.
5/5, Cheers

 

[abbsomes]

Thank you for wonderful "RTS" map!!!!

 

[Meneldil]

I completely understand not wanting to bother with the Reforged HD graphics (even though I personnally find them okay), but why release a campaign that's supposed to work on a patch no longer officially available at the time?

This means missing out on a vast amount of potential players, who don't know that it's possible to rollback the game, or don't know how to do it...

 

[The Nightmare Book]

I completely understand not wanting to bother with the Reforged HD graphics (even though I personnally find them okay), but why release a campaign that's supposed to work on a patch no longer officially available at the time?

This means missing out on a vast amount of potential players, who don't know that it's possible to rollback the game, or don't know how to do it...

The campaign works fine on the Reforged latest patch.

 

[tulee]

I completely understand not wanting to bother with the Reforged HD graphics (even though I personnally find them okay), but why release a campaign that's supposed to work on a patch no longer officially available at the time?

This means missing out on a vast amount of potential players, who don't know that it's possible to rollback the game, or don't know how to do it...

Wc3 maps are forward compatible. Unless they are made with a non-standard WE, use memory hacks, everything made on previous versions should work fine on later versions. That was not always the case since they released 1.32 (initial "reforged" patch) in a very buggy state and many things did not work on it. Now, currently at 1.36+, I can comfortably say almost everything made on previous versions should work on later versions, outside of those exceptions I mentioned above. So, there is no need for making it "compatible" on the latest wc3 patch, since everything made on older patches should work fine on later patches without any intervention.

 

[frostwhisper]

I've got a patch out which sorts out most of the reported issues:

Spoiler: Patch 2.01

Chapter 1

• Fixed a sound issue for the Crabby Bribe quest completion (was playing the quest discovered sound).
• Resolved an issue where the vine trap effect persisted after triggering.
• Enhanced the visibility of the vine entangle area bounds.
• Fixed lighting issues when using the tunnel specialist to travel to Saurok town.
• Updated the Blood Harvest tooltip for better clarity.
• Attempted to address an issue where the Blood Harvest ability appears when achieving any item combination.
  (Note: the cause of this bug isn't clear to me yet, it might still happen)

Chapter 2

• Corrected a quest message error when attuning the tablet to air.
• Added a model for the Orb of Lightning to match other orbs in the campaign.
• Fixed a skybox issue during the smoke signal quest.
• Resolved a pathing issue with the Hearthkeeper's teleport ability.

Chapter 3

• Addressed an issue where testing items would appear at the start of the map.
• Addressed an issue of duplicate Auxiliary voice lines and quest messages.

Chapter 4

• Resolved the battle sound issue during the intro cinematic.

Chapter 5

• Fixed an issue where the optional quest completion message was not displaying.

Chapter 6

• Addressed an issue where skipping the boss intro would cause the map to restart.

Misc

• Addressed a visual issue with the Warbeast Kraal model.
• The backpack upgrade now affects mounted troll units.
  (Note: mounted units and items behave weirdly in wc3. Any time a mount/dismount ability is used all carried items are dropped at the carrier's location)

 

[Rayman90]

Finished the playthrough today. I agree with all positive reviews. Very beautiful campaign. All the envoriment, terrain, visuals, models, textures, lighting in dungeons, all is really high quality. Its scary to imagine how many hours went to creating all of those ))

The plot is interesting.

Heroes/units are very well made and fun to play. Rendar felt like kind of weak at the beginning, but after gaining some levels/books/items he became a pretty much unstoppable force )

Does Old Djon have Decard Cain voice ? lol

All in all this campaign is 5/5 without a slightest doubt.

 

[Dancyspartan]

Love the Campaign - shame I cannot finish it.

Crashes when final(?) boss is killed. Tried 5 times.

Every time same reason.

 

[usfshihy2]

What an incredible peace of work. To believe this was made in the same world editor we use is downright baffling. I cannot wait for the next part. Amazing work.

 

[Tanni]

Incredible campaign. It's been a while since I got back into the swing of playing through custom campaigns but this is really up there. There's a lot of passion put into it, just from the cutscenes alone with the custom animations already makes it incredibly fun. Story was interesting to follow. I can also tell all the various inspirations you took for this campaign, getting a feel for the Rao Dao Zao vibe in terms of game feel. Heroes were fun and decently balanced and I liked the simple but good item combination system. Kruppe's Shop of Wonders ability was also really cool.

The voice acting, while still can be jarring at times, does for the most part sound consistently good for this custom campaign. Pretty impressive stuff, almost fooled me in Chapter 1 into believing it was non-AI voice acting. AI voice acting has introduced this influx of campaigns that utilize the technology, which most of the time are a big miss, taking me out of the immersion instead of the opposite. No offense to campaign makers that do use AI voice acting, but it is quite difficult to believe in characters who sound unemotional or robotic. The voice acting here, however, is decent. Great job! (Another project iirc that uses great AI voice acting is War of the Spider)

A few things to note though - I feel like Oriss' default ability (the one that doesn't level up) is only ever good in the first chapter, and subsequent chapters it only serves as a stun you sometimes remember to use. It gets most of its use out of Chapter 6, but even then I just spammed the Avatar Golem unit you get from combining all three of those unique items.

Chapter 1 felt a bit egregious in how I had to go back and forth certain places to complete quests, especially with the one involving the ents. You complete the mission quite far from where the ents are stationed at so you have to walk back quite a bit.

Chapter 6 when you're looking for the shards, you have to fight one of those big guys, right? (I apologize for not remembering their names lol they look like ultralisks). When you fight them a barrier shows up and blocks your heroes from escaping. This bugged out on me once, with only Kruppe being inside the arena while the rest of the heroes were outside. Funnily enough Kruppe also couldn't move, he was stuck on the barrier. I had to reload to fix this so you might want to check that out.

Otherwise, phenomenal work!

 

[frostwhisper]

Love the Campaign - shame I cannot finish it.

Crashes when final(?) boss is killed. Tried 5 times.

Every time same reason.

The model in question is used for day-night ambiance and lighting. Interesting that the error fires off at the end and not during the fight where a day-night model changes as well.
What patch are you playing on?

 

[wubalubudubdub]

First off I just want to say this is incredible. So far the best campaign I've ever played. However, I'm sad that I can't continue playing it as the it doesnt allow me to even load into chapter 2 without crashing. I posted a screenshot of the error message

I'm on 1.36 if that helps.

 

[Re uben]

Go ahead! If you do, send them over to me so I can host them here with the English version.

Hey broo is there a sequel of this campain in future

 

[Chocos1695]

First off I just want to say this is incredible. So far the best campaign I've ever played. However, I'm sad that I can't continue playing it as the it doesnt allow me to even load into chapter 2 without crashing. I posted a screenshot of the error message

I'm on 1.36 if that helps.

Hi mate, I had the same crash. I went to setting in your battle.net (with your wc3 game closed) and i searched for updates and repaired the Game. Afterwards the second Chapter worked.

Really amazing Game so far. Thanks alot!

 

[wubalubudubdub]

Just finished the campaign - so good that I almost cried. I really hope you continue to make more!

 

[pedeng]

just wow. this is a good job a very good one. the item details are masterclass works. and i guess some of the other items are avaiable with the sauris shop. i would play it again to kill kobolds insteead of sauris. cant wait to play the continue. also there is a campaign called old gods idk if its around that time or way later etc

 

[Cheshire]

I looked over all the credits. I still don't get who created all the amazing art on the map description. Even though some of it is Blizzard it looks like a lot of it is custom made. where is all this epicness from?

 

[FrEdaJJJ]

Very fun campaign with good mechanics and good difficulty!

 

[Mekin]

Great campaign. Love the Malazan references btw

 

[PROXY]

Great campaign. Love the Malazan references btw

lol i knew i knew that name from somewhere

 

[The Nightmare Book]

Finished my walkthrough and campaign... Played on version 2.00.
What I can say? I liked it a lot, but I want to notice about next campaign elements or, in my humble opinion, "flaws":

1. In RTS missions, our aqir enemies are not pressing players hard enough. It's so laughable to see on mission "Tunnel Vision", where the main purple aqir lazily sends aqir flyers to attack me and even focuses on my heroes rather than my base. The same goes for Chapter 2 - enemy attacks are rare and seems that they spawn from thin air. I thought that it would be better to see chapter 2 as a mini-FFA mission, where all enemies and you fight against each other.
2. Walking Hive. This boss has one serious problem, which I had confirmed by looking through WorldEditor, - "Locusts". Spell has a 3-minute CD and locusts live for 3 minutes, they have the same stats as normal locusts, but there are 30 of them! It's a lot of locusts and they, thanks to their basic AI, quickly eat units one by one. It would be better if they would be killable, dispellable, etc. Or lower their amount. IMO.
3. Final Boss - I see it is inspired by a typical retail WoW arcade-style boss and he was easy enough to defeat him. I think that adding one or two Aqir Giants could increase difficulty during the fight and urge the player to use his interruptable spells with some strategy.

...And that's all!
That music in Necropolis - it's so cool.

Awaiting for more!

 

[stein123]

Man, the cinematics are top notch, like, insane quality, specially being SD, this is a whole new level of quality for custom campaigns, love the edits of the models for the cinematics, specially the tarrasque and grendel models modifications, 1000/10

 

[frostwhisper]

I looked over all the credits. I still don't get who created all the amazing art on the map description. Even though some of it is Blizzard it looks like a lot of it is custom made. where is all this epicness from?

I made those using AI and a lot of image postprocessing. Aiming at Blizz style presentations.

Great campaign. Love the Malazan references btw

I was reading them when I started the project. You can probably tell Kruppe's my favourite character

Finished my walkthrough and campaign...

I watched your playthrough and caught quite a few details to fix going forward with the next patch. It's been a great help!

 

[7oda]

This is the best campaign I have ever played in a while now. Definitely top tier. Fantastic work from the techtrees, to the models, to the music, to the boss fights, to the story and everything honestly. I've enjoyed it all through.

The walking hive was a pain though. Agonizing locuts xd

 

[Dogcall]

This was fantastic! I wasn't this invested in characters and story in a long long while. Thank you for the amazing campaign and looking forward for continuation

Edit: typo

 

[xsarq]

I just started playing in middle of 1st map. Im very impressed. This intro was insane. Everything seems so hiqh quality and Blizzard-like. And I mean Warcraft 3 Blizzard-like. I love custom music, voices, graphic. Can't wait to play this.

 

[Deleted member 255104]

Oh boy, another star for pre-reforged/1.31. The best of both worlds.
Time to sink my teeth into this.

 

[MogulKahn]

Just started the campaign, the quality is top notch. Really impressed. Great job.

I am confused. Are we supposed to play jungle trolls, zandalari trolls or?

Also, not a fan of some voices. Female troll having sexy american voice instead of jamaican voice with heavy accent is not my cup of tea. Or, that old troll from the beginning sounding like Decard Cain from Diablo series..

 

[stansun]

This is an unquestioned masterpiece. The campaign has a very high playability, especially the final BOSS battle, which has the characteristics of WOW. I am very grateful to the author for his efforts and look forward to his next campaign

 

[Chobani]

In my top 3 of campaigns I've played. Wonderful all around, an amazing experience. The dialogue, the characters, everything. I hope to see more soon!

 

[BaiyuGalan]

Numerous exquisite model animations.

And those models and terrain.

 

[duongsodep]

Does the bug where you freeze at the end of chapter 3 when leaving the ruined temple of the death happen to anyone or its just me?

 

[preußenfeldmarschal]

Does the bug where you freeze at the end of chapter 3 when leaving the ruined temple of the death happen to anyone or its just me?

Yeah, I'm having that issue, too. I'm playing on 1.31, what is going on here and is there a fix that doesn't require restarting the whole campaign?

 

[frostwhisper]

I've been made aware of above-average loading times when travelling back to the main map. Someone mentioned that they experienced a similar crash and very long loading time on a second attempt but they got through it eventually. I haven't had the issue myself but that was on 1.29

 

[Darnish89]

It was legendary! Loved the story and the modells. Weird thing is that I wrote this and a question like 4 days ago, but can't see my own comment. Hope it sticks this time!

 

[Uncle Risech]

Yeah, I'm having that issue, too. I'm playing on 1.31, what is going on here and is there a fix that doesn't require restarting the whole campaign?

Had that stuff too on 1.31, you don't have to restart the campaign - for some reason loading time to temple of death and returning to main map requires several minutes, so the only solution is just wait for it.

 

[Cheshire]

nice stuff! (this is an understatement). I'm gonna be that guy -

I'm stuck in the caravan chapter. I bring the turtle to the circle, and he can't go in it. and then the devilsaur kills me. is there something i'm missing?

 

[frostwhisper]

You'll need to kill the devilsaur to gain access to the circle.

 

[Cheshire]

You'll need to kill the devilsaur to gain access to the circle.

I guess I'm the only one who assumed that the first devilsaur was setting a precedent for getting around and not through devilsaurs...