The Prophecy of the Dark Angel

[EternaLife]

A decent work! I really appreciate the open-world design in this map, simple but fun. I suggest you to build a bag system functioning as a second hero of the player to carry the crafting materials and consumable items, since it is inconvenient to always teleport to the storage box or the obsidian statues to get my items. Anyway, good job!

Yes I agree with you!

 

[Valenvai]

A decent work! I really appreciate the open-world design in this map, simple but fun. I suggest you to build a bag system functioning as a second hero of the player to carry the crafting materials and consumable items, since it is inconvenient to always teleport to the storage box or the obsidian statues to get my items. Anyway, good job!

Thnx a lot for the comment! I will try to improve some things in the map sometime. For now I am focused more on making the 2nd part.

 

[njme1021]

why do it always say map file to big choose another map . how can i make warcraft 3 not do that

 

[Malhorne]

It is not a multiple player map
You have to play it solo to make this work

 

[XicorD]

Second part
Now

It's so fucking awesome, even with cheats you take like one hour and a half to finish all the quests xD.

 

[rombon]

Can someone help me about the riddle.

 

[XicorD]

Can someone help me about the riddle.

What riddle?

 

[A]mun]

Pretty classical w3 single player rpg. Not bad not good, for my taste a little too shallow.

That's because:

Fights are boring. You just watch the health bars shrink, while taking potions and spaming abilities. But that's a general problem for single player rpgs.
@author: you could try to make more use of the 0 ping with reactive abilities, such as blocking, timed attacks

Terrain is pretty underwhelming actually.

Dialogues are rather one-sided and there are many typos.
That also counts for the quests.

But still it is playable and might be worth your time, if you like the genre.

 

[Valenvai]

Thank you for playing my map and for your comment. I'm sad for the low vote and that you didn't like it as much as I wanted but also makes me more determined to make the next part better for everyone to enjoy!

 

[Krolan]

I actually like your map. Downloaded it, began to play and realized... I played this 2 years ago xD

Is there any sense or purpose for the helmet of true sight I wonder...

Never know.

 

[Valenvai]

Is there any sense or purpose for the helmet of true sight I wonder...

Yes there is!

 

[Krolan]

You got a review

Gameplay - [+]
Story - [++]
Characters (+NPC) - [+]
Graphics - [0]
Atmosphere - [++]
Discovery - [+++]
Quests - [+]
Layout - [++]
Items - [++]
Bugs - [+++] (no bugs)



If you're confused about the rating, check my Signature for the Rating Table.


Full Review

 

[Valenvai]

Your review is very generous! Thnx a lot!

 

[Johnromar09]

I think the Quest about Gigas, Real or Myth in Pentaplatano village is a Bug cause i takened the quest and i just roamed around the village after that when i'm almost leaving the village a cinematic appeared when i'm near George or someone that i completed the quest but i didn't even find and encounter Gigas...

 

[Valenvai]

Hmm that's very strange. I need to look at it.

 

[Valenvai]

I think the Quest about Gigas, Real or Myth in Pentaplatano village is a Bug cause i takened the quest and i just roamed around the village after that when i'm almost leaving the village a cinematic appeared when i'm near George or someone that i completed the quest but i didn't even find and encounter Gigas...

Are you sure that the cinematic wasn't the one about the broken bridge? This has nothing to do with the Gigas quest.
I checked in the world editor and everything seems in order.

 

[Malhorne]

It should be in the order...
It is the quest about the bridge.

Spoiler

Gigas is in the north of the town

 

[Johnromar09]

yeah it's wasn't about the bridge it's the Gigas quest! no doubt..
well actually when i first started playing the game that was my first quest cause i headed there first!!(cause i was lost and wandered there)

 

[kael]

help，about the Glen's hammer .i get this quest and then i kill all the bandit and the bandit leader , but i cannt find the hammer.

 

[Malhorne]

I though that the boss drop it.
If not search for treasure box around

 

[Johnromar09]

I Finished playing the game but i didn't find the bandits lair where is it? clue maybe?

 

[Valenvai]

If you killed the bandits in the lake and around it, it's not them.
The bandits that have Glen's hammer are hidden in a cave at the mountains to the southeast, as the quest information says.
Good hunting!

 

[Cokemonkey11]

Hi,

I tested your map. I think it's a strong first installment in a series.

You did many things refreshingly correct, but also have many problems. To highlight I'll start with your strong points:

• Above-average story-driven development
• Very high level of completeness and expansiveness
• Above-average level of bug purging and dialog

Unfortunately the weak points, issues, and suggestions are always more numerous.

Weak Points:

• Poor Hero Design
• Below-average level of replayability

Issues:

• I don't recall ever killing "Gigas", but after getting the quest some erroneous state happened while leaving the town and the quest become "complete"; I didn't have any special quest item.
• When beginning cinematics, you pause the hero, but fail to pause the rest of his units. I sugest pausing all "units of player" (I assume you're using GUI)
• A similar problem to before, you made a mistake in your gate open/close triggers. When a unit leaves a gate region, you should count the number of units in the region. If that number is 0, close the gate (otherwise do nothing)
• This man is highly ignorant, no matter where I stand.
• After entering caves or using the item box "move to hero" ability, the camera didn't snap to the hero, which I expected it to.
• The "arcane shop" unit had the magic sentry ability but no magic sentry upgrade
• Many unusual walkable areas that didn't seem intended. I suggest changing layer to terrain, pressing cntrl+D to hide destructables, and then pressing p to show the pathing map. With this you can find unusual places you can walk and fix them!
• Your list of common issues in the quests menu is very poor design. Don't tell people how to get around your bugs, just fix the bugs
• In general I suspect all heros suffer from severe mana gating. I suggest reserving mana as a highly scarce resource for mage characters. Which brings me to: Never use mana burn. I know you're just trying to make the dungeon difficult, but there are way better ways to do that. Spell immunity, silencing effects, damage reduction, etc. But never mana burn - it's just frustrating. Mana burn rewards you for *not* managing your mana carefully.
• I accidentally walked into some buildings (like the castle) without knowing why. Put an indication like a circle of power to let players know they can go there.
• You misuse passive/active icons. This is one of the most complained about mistakes a mapper can make. If you *really* can't find the icon you need, convert and import it using a tool.
• Some locations like the frozen throne gate and dragon cave are unavailable without any explanation. At least write a message "I can't go there" or something!
• The Mpamalous ghost on top of the hill near the starting area is such bad design I have no words. What is that even for?
• Sometimes terrain blocks vision in a "f*** the player" manner. You walk over a cliff ramp and you're being bashed in the face by high level monsters. There's no way to escape if you go there by accident, exploring, and there's no way to plan/engage safely if you're there on purpose. It's just bad
• Hail of Arrows is an unbelievably ugly ability, just never do something like this again.
• Summon Wolf can be abused to jump over walls
• After the blood filled black heart event, I still had the item (bug?)
• After forging both items available to me the quest didn't simply go away.

Suggestion:

• Use an existing "backpack" system to manage items instead of the uncomfortable item box + obelisk inventories.
  
• I mentioned you had poor hero design, but my thoughts are specific to the arcane ranger:
  • Arcane missiles cause severe mana issues due to her reliance on her pet and low mana pool. As a result, I actually didn't upgrade my ultimate ability until around level 15, saving my mana instead for the pet + missiles
  • Arcane missiles massively incentivizes attack speed, but she has no synergistic ability in that regard. The trueshot aura, ult, and attribute bonuses all provide negative synergy. I suggest replacing her E ability with a berzerk-based ability (attack speed bonus) and her R ability with an avatar type ability (unlimited mana, magic immunity, bonus movement speed, cooldown reduction, perhaps)
• Suggested Reading about Bad Hero Design
• Suggested Reading about Synergy
• As I said one of your strongest points is story-driven development, but your spelling, grammar, and style are not exactly "good" by professional standards. Suggested Reading about writing brevity and quality
• Adjust all unit scales, selection scales, attack range, and collision radii. They caused serious problems with clicking what you want and also cause aesthetic imperfections.
• You use "..." in dialog in place of almost every punctuation available. Don't do that. Learn to use hyphens, dashes, semicolons, commas, and periods correctly! There was also some improper spelling and grammar, which I really suggest working on since the story is one of your strongest points.
• Consider getting voice actors for your cinematics - this will really exemplify your focus on story.

In general I think your map is above average. I hope that you'll fix the bugs in this map, and your skills overall will improve when the next installment is finished.

Good luck,

 

[Valenvai]

Thnx a lot for the feedback! I will fix / improve, starting right away actually!

Edit:
- I noticed a possible glitch that might bugging Gigas quest like you (and other people) mentioned. I re-designed the trigger to, hopefully, prevent such thing.
- I was aware of that. I guess I forgot to fix some triggers. I recall fixing this on some. Will take a closer look later.
- Doors open / close fixed.
- The ignorant man talks to you when you go near the bridge. I enlarged the area that triggers the quest just in case.
- Camera panning when you enter caves fixed.
- Arcane shop fixed.
- Unusual walking places fixed (I hope). Will keep looking.
- List of common issues is for bugs that I don't know how to fix. I mean, I look the triggers but everything seems to be in order and shouldn't cause that bugs.
- Mana costs improved for lower levels. I guess you are right, mana was spent too fast and made game progress slow. Higher level mana costs remained almost the same. I guess it's a balancing issue that needs further and lengthy investigation. I will keep working on it on the future.
- Building entrances now have a circle of power to show the player. Cave entrances remain unmarked since they are obvious to spot.
- Places you can't enter until you have thr required quest will now give a "You can't go in there yet" message.
- Mpampoulas ghost is designed like this for a reason. There is a way to kill it though.
- The quest about forging the items is more of an "informative" quest. Considering I'm thinking of putting more crafts I think it should stay available for the player to check it at any time.
- Terrain blocked vision is used sometimes to suprise the player with sudden attacks. Like a poorly designed trap.
- Hail of Arrows will not make it in the next part, don't worry.
- Blood filled black heart stays after quest? I just checked the trigger and it shouldn't be. I need to find where the glitch is.

I will look for your suggestions in the future.

 

[CY The UnGodly]

Where is the Gigas? I've been trying to find it everywhere I almost looked through the whole map for it lol... clue pls?

 

[Cokemonkey11]

List of common issues is for bugs that I don't know how to fix. I mean, I look the triggers but everything seems to be in order and shouldn't cause that bugs.

If you post the triggers here or in the "Triggers and Scripts" forum someone might try and spot an error.

- Blood filled black heart stays after quest? I just checked the trigger and it shouldn't be. I need to find where the glitch is.

I may have somehow acquired two of them, hard to say. I guess you took a look at the replay though? 1 download.

 

[Valenvai]

I will take a look at your replay tomorrow. I'll be on the road for today.

 

[Valenvai]

Where is the Gigas? I've been trying to find it everywhere I almost looked through the whole map for it lol... clue pls?

After you get the quest search the forests around the village.

 

[CY The UnGodly]

I did that and I still can't find the Gigas any specific location? I know it's around the village area.... oh and I found a secret bandit camp just beside the Arcane Sanctum shop in the first village and it's covered by trees so I can't go through.... what is it doing there?

 

[Valenvai]

I did that and I still can't find the Gigas any specific location? I know it's around the village area....

Search to the north west.

oh and I found a secret bandit camp just beside the Arcane Sanctum shop in the first village and it's covered by trees so I can't go through.... what is it doing there?

Have a very careful look around the lake.

 

[Valenvai]

I may have somehow acquired two of them, hard to say. I guess you took a look at the replay though? 1 download.

I'm afraid I can't watch the replay as I have the newer and fixed version of the map. But I'll have a careful look on what you posted.

 

[Cokemonkey11]

I'm afraid I can't watch the replay as I have the newer and fixed version of the map. But I'll have a careful look on what you posted.

The replay is just for you and I don't mind if you look at it or not, but just a word of advice: Always keep redundant copies. Use a version control system if it makes it easier.

 

[CY The UnGodly]

I still can't find the gigas I searched every inch of the map and couldn't find him I used iseedeadpeople and still can't find him..... (couldn't take it anymore so I had to use that as my only option lol) is there something u need to do for him to appear? I found some sasquatches just northwest of the village....

 

[Krolan]

The biggest sasquatch IS gigas. I think.

 

[Ardenaso]

And a few questions:

Is Gigas one of the Sasquatch that I murdered pre-entering the town?

Why is an INT hero (Vampire) melee? INT heroes are usually fragile, and since his Carrion Swarm gives him mana issues, he will be forced to focus on mana/int items.

What does the traveler do other than patrolling outside the city?

About the Strange Man, does he say something about the buyable gun in Night Elf village that could deal more damage to a certain boss?

Also:

Once Glen's Hammer quest is really completed, it should appear as so.

Paladin should be a bit stronger, he's more of a support role on this meta for a solo map.

I'm a bit happy seeing that Orcs are correlating with Humans, Dwarf and Elves.

 

[Valenvai]

I still can't find the gigas I searched every inch of the map and couldn't find him I used iseedeadpeople and still can't find him..... (couldn't take it anymore so I had to use that as my only option lol) is there something u need to do for him to appear? I found some sasquatches just northwest of the village....

Gigas appears near the sasquatches you mentioned (a bit to the northwest), after you've aquired the quest.

And a few questions:

Is Gigas one of the Sasquatch that I murdered pre-entering the town?

No. Gigas only appears after you've aquired the quest.

Why is an INT hero (Vampire) melee? INT heroes are usually fragile, and since his Carrion Swarm gives him mana issues, he will be forced to focus on mana/int items.

Vampire hero was Strength based at first. Beta-testers back then found him extremely strong; he didn't even had to use spells. Making him Intelligence was a balancing issue but it was fitting his background as well.

What does the traveler do other than patrolling outside the city?

He writes poems. Hehe, don't worry he is not important.

About the Strange Man, does he say something about the buyable gun in Night Elf village that could deal more damage to a certain boss?

He might be giving a clue on how to kill something, on a mountain that looks like your worst fears. Or maybe he is just crazy. Who knows?

Paladin should be a bit stronger, he's more of a support role on this meta for a solo map.

So far beta-testers mentioned Paladin as the strongest hero but I'll have a look at it myself.

I'm a bit happy seeing that Orcs are correlating with Humans, Orcs and Elves.

Orcs are accepted through the kingdoms of men, elves and dwarves but not all. Their clans are divided and fighting a civil war. There are still orcs with evil intents and plans of conquest! ... and that's a spoiler!

If memory serves, that was the first comment of someone about the game lore. I'm really happy about that!

 

[Ardenaso]

He might be giving a clue on how to kill something, on a mountain that looks like your worst fears. Or maybe he is just crazy. Who knows?

The Death Knight? That's the only "mountain" I saw.

Orcs are accepted through the kingdoms of men, elves and dwarves but not all. Their clans are divided and fighting a civil war. There are still orcs with evil intents and plans of conquest! ... and that's a spoiler!

If memory serves, that was the first comment of someone about the game lore. I'm really happy about that!

Just don't let Daelin Proudmoore or Garithos come near your story.

And btw, about the riddle the Cenarius statue said, the spirit owl kinda gave the position away...

 

[Valenvai]

No, not the Death Knight. You have to search better.

the spirit owl kinda gave the position away...

What owl?

 

[Ardenaso]

What owl?

IIRC there's a spirit owl on the hill, I'm not sure though if it would appear pre-completion or after completing the quest.

 

[Valenvai]

Oh yes, that owl. It appears after you've find the place to plant the seeds.
I will check just in case there is a glitch about it.

Thnx!

 

[Zanna]

I just finish to play this map and ...
Congratulations!! It was very fun, i'm not very competent but i think this is a very good Job. The environment is simple but suggestive and the lore is well done. I'm curious, in the endcredits I saw that the soundtracks were made by you, it means that you've composed​​?
Just an observation, i think that the enemy encounters in Ice Palace before Anubis are too weak.
So i hope to can play soon to the sequel.
Greetings

 

[Jaggmaster5000]

the cinematics are a bit to long when i died i got really annoyed cause i had to redo all the cinematics maybe a way to skip them or make them shorter? but all in all 4/5 map nice job!

 

[Jaggmaster5000]

Gigas appears near the sasquatches you mentioned (a bit to the northwest), after you've aquired the quest.

No he does't unless thats just a bug but he did't for me but for the sake of argument i will check again


yeah just checked again and he does't spawn

 

[Valenvai]

I just finish to play this map and ...
Congratulations!! It was very fun, i'm not very competent but i think this is a very good Job. The environment is simple but suggestive and the lore is well done. I'm curious, in the endcredits I saw that the soundtracks were made by you, it means that you've composed​​?
Just an observation, i think that the enemy encounters in Ice Palace before Anubis are too weak.
So i hope to can play soon to the sequel.
Greetings

Thnx for the good words!
The music was indeed made by me but I didn't compose it. I was using a program called E-Jay where you can just combine some samples on channel mixer and create music tracks.

 

[Valenvai]

No he does't unless thats just a bug but he did't for me but for the sake of argument i will check again


yeah just checked again and he does't spawn

Ok, I will check it tomorrow morning.

 

[Ardenaso]

No, not the Death Knight. You have to search better.

Found it, now I realized why it has only a little bit of HP. Though the drop should show the cooldown. I never know when would it be available or not.

 

[Key]

I played with the samurai, pretty easy I must say. Few things I find imbalanced. Like most of the items are dumb, like really dumb. You should probably add or change some of them.For example I had no agi items cause most of them were shit, dey give like some armor and ~10dmg/agi. I had boots, lifesteal and 2 books. Literally the agi items are worthless and the books are probably the best items in the game. Also samurai 1st skill scales pretty badly. Like you level it up only once and you already got a 7sec stun which is more than enough. I maxed the whirlwind and had 1 point at evasion, the rest went to + stats cause the ult is pretty mana inefficient. Also after I crafted the Katana or w/e which gives 3% chance to insta kill the game became boring. I literally stunned bosses (for 10seconds, pretty OP if you ask me) and waited for the proc. Killed the final boss in like ~5sec just cause of the proc :<

Skipping scene would also be good since people might replay the map with different hero and its annoying, boring and time consuming to wait for something you already know

I might try the vampire now

 

[Valenvai]

Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I will take a look at the hero and will improve him.

 

[robizeratul]

It's been 2 years since I made my first comment. Is it possible to skip the annoying dialogue yet?

 

[Valenvai]

Haha no sorry, still not skipable. I tried to make it so but kinda messed things up.
Will try again, I promise!