The Next Blizzard Patch

[Deathbringer]

:idea:
I say we all write a huge petition thing from this site nominating one custom hero from each race for blizzard to put in the next patch, it might be hard to get them to listen but with enough people theyde have to listen!

 

[Deathbringer]

:

I nominate the...
Human: War Mage
Orc: Couldnt find one
Undead: Couldnt Find one
Night Elf couldnt find one

 

[acolyteofdoom]

If they do do that then its probly gonna be in an expansion.

 

[Daveman]

the orc one could b a Troll Warlord thats like zujui from wc2

 

[Afronight_76]

i say that we get more elementals, as neutral units. but for the undead, i say we put in the nerubian stinger, but giving it a new skin that gives it and undead look, it can be called....um crypt knight? or mabey just crypt stinger.for ork, we could have those half orc units we see on this site, and that half orc woman thing, and my half troll. and for night elf, i say we put in something like the druid of the fin, it could possibly turn into some sort of naga form? mabey? i dont know, im just thinking of random things. but i doubt blizzard is making a patch where theyre gonna add units for the normal races rather than just neutral units.

 

[Wormskull]

enough nerubians.. i say we have enough heroes. wc3's we engine is way better than sc's. i'd like to have a hundred of heroes personally.

 

[Mecheon]

I say that Blizzard aren't going to add anything in the next patch.

They have a very annoying way of doing this

1.13: Added stuff
1.14: Balancing
1.15: Added stuff
1.16: Balancing
1.17: Added stuff

So 1.18 will be balancing, and 1.19 (Christmas Patch) will have stuff

I doubt they're going to include ANYTHING from this site though

Correction: I'm almost positive

And if they include the Stinger (Which they won't) I hope its not a undead unit. Two Undead Nerubian units is quite enough. The entire Nerubian race are not slaves to the Undead

Oh, and people NEVER have to listen to petitions. Petitions are a WASTE. OF. TIME.

And they won't make the other elemental lords as neutral heros! How many times do I need to explain how only Rangaros the Firelord is free, with the other Elemental Lords sealed up?

And they're not going to add new units to the races. They can't even balance the current units: What chance do they have of being able to balance any more?

 

[RightField]

Blizzard always inlcude new stuff that already exists in one form already. They find something they like in a mod, then they make their own version of it.

 

[Insane llama]

It'd be sweet if they added more goblin units to the goblin labratory and a few new nutral buildings as well!

 

[RaZoR]

i don't think blizzard will add more heros. race-specific heros are difficult to balance, and for neutrals, only one slot in the tavern is remaining as the other three ones are used for resurrection

 

[superspider]

What chance do they have of being able to balance any more?

You insultin blizzard? :| :x

RaZoR:True.maybe in the next patch you can revive neutral heros at your altar.that would be good

 

[Pyrodactyl]

I totally agree with Mecheon. 1.18 need to be a ballance patch. Tho i h8 this method to give a patch every two month (almost), cause i cant save replays. I think blizzard even could take out the option to make replays.... lol joking..

But for the future: i don't think they're going to add any new race specific heroes. So far they only added neutral ones. And if they add more neutral heroes they're going to need a new tavern-like building coz there won't be enough space...

Personally i think Wc3 has fallen into an overpatched state, i even have the thought that wc3:RoC is better in it's raw form than TFT...

back to the topic: if i were blizzard i would do the following changes:
-faerie fire mana cost: 35
-wind walk backstab dmg: 60 90 120
-griphon rider food cost: 5
-wind rider more hp
-firelord -> either STR or INT hero.
-firelord cooldown: 2.25sec (from 1.8sec)
-firelord less base AGI
-lava spawn cannot split up on creeps, need to attack 15 times to split
-goblin alchemist helaing spray: +1 wave each level
-goblin alchemist +1 base armor
-goblin alchemist acid bomb armor penalty: 4, 5, 6
-death knight less speed
-dryad less hp
-crypt fiend less hp
-crypt fiend 2.25 sec cooldown, but a bit less cost
-pit lord less STR

and maybe more.. but these are the ones that i remember now...

 

[VGsatomi]

Blizzard, as I understand, will take balancing suggestions, but usually only from the top # ranking players. (the guys who know the game inside out becasue they played it so darn much, basically). Blizzard will never...NEVER accept fan made stuff unless its taken in a official Blizzard-sponsored contest. If you ever read their site Faq, they sound like elitist pigs in the way that they believe that fan-made resources would corrupt the series (mainly found this when I was seeing if I could apply to be a novel writer for them...I don't know how theyt select their authors, but its sure as heck not through resume....)
-VGsartomi

 

[Mecheon]

The reason they have that is because the WC3 novels are actualy considered WC3 history, and they don't want someone to put something crazy like Uther and Illidan battling Archimode or something like that. Not sure if thats the same with the Starcraft ones though....

 

[VGsatomi]

Yes, their novels are loyal top the series and are officially part of the stroryline, but they won't even let people APPLY to be a writer of film maker for them because of that...which makes me wonder where they get their writers...
-VGsatomi

 

[Mecheon]

From writing other books: I know at least 1 of the writers has wrote several DnD books

 

[Pyrodactyl]

As for novels/books i think it is good that they don't accept anything.
I dunno how do they chose their writers.. I think there's two thing what matters: how well-known u are (this matters less than the next), and how much did you pay for them.

And i nkow they'll never listen to ppl like me who play very rarely on bnet, but i think some changes they made are againist rational.
for example faerie fire:
it used to give -5 armor, that means you do around 23% more dmg on it (i think it is somewhere near that value - it depends on how many armor it had before)
Let's see slow: it decreases 25% attack speed. That means you have that much advantage.
23% vs 25% is the ratio. An wich one is the more mana expensive??? the faeire fire. Not to mention that slow even decreases their speed to the minimum, making them easy targets to AOE spells (humans have a lot) and making them unable to run away, easy to break their line and so on. What faerie fire gives is a very little vision, but it is the most rarely to reveal anything with it coz:
first it has a very low LOS. second if you faerie fire a unit you will probably going to kill it coz it has less defense.
And the most logic thing i've ever seen is to make this unused, underpowered spell more unusable. NE magic is sh!t enough without this reduction.

I could write pages about issues like that, but i don't want anyone to read page-long comments

 

[superspider]

I totally agree with Mecheon. 1.18 need to be a ballance if they add more neutral heroes they're going to need a new tavern-like building coz there won't be enough space

but maybe in the next patch you can revive netrual heros at your altar and not the tavern.that would help and allow more heros

^not that thats ever gonna become true to be honest thats probably got as much chance as becoming real as i have of working for blizzard....a tiny chance

 

[Pyrodactyl]

ummmm...
i think you can revive neutral heroes at your own altar... since TFT was released.

 

[superspider]

sorry I'm a retired TFT player (well not retired.I just don't play it very often.and i've never bothere trying that out)

 

[dragolas77]

You CAN revive taverns at altars...

But i agree with mecheon, besides, the racews are hard enough to balance now... Undead and humans are too strong, orc? meh... NE NEEDS BUFFS! And finally, rifles-sorc all the time is pissing me off... -_-

 

[evilwart-dragon]

I agree. Balancing is all that we'll see from now on, and perhaps a new neutral hero (pandaren perhaps), if we're lucky in a far-away patch, although giving more goblins for hire at the lab would be nice...