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The most controversial game of our time (May make some readers uncomfortable)

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Today I was doing research into violence in the media and for an assignment I choose to research into the Columbine Massacre as oppose to something like Grand Theft Auto. Those who know, know that the Columbine massacre sparked a flame war towards violent movies, violent music (Marilyn Manson was depicted as violent) and violent video games. And debates rose about how these forms of media effected the children responsible for the massacre. The mainstream American media bombarded anything to do with a slightly possible violent sub culture.

On the sixth anniversary, something even more controversial popped up. A game was made called: "Super Columbine Massacre RPG". Know most of you are either in shock or are laughing at such a ridiculous idea. However there is much more to this game then you may think.

Super Columbine Massacre RPG has the player playing as the two gunman on the day of the massacres where you wake up before school and actually prepare for the attack. You do many tasks which for this discussion I shall not name because all this may be confronting enough for those who haven't heard of this game but you can find a list of the various tasks elsewhere on the web. The second half of the game has the two gunman in an imaginary world of video games mostly made of Doom but has appearances by famous icons like Mario, Pikachu and Megaman.

Now alot of you may now be disgusted by even the idea of this game, it does exist but it is not a game that trivializes the deaths of the innocent people. The game's narrative is carefully laid out and is designed to get you in the mindset of the killers. It provides a very clear suggestion of why they did what they did; they were enacting an ideological demonstration through a terrorist act, and the game shines light on this as an indictment of the American dream and way of life painfully close to the main nerve. It provides great social commentary on American society. It is a game that makes you understand how people become like that because of bullying. The game's creator was also bullied and he made this game so other people can learn their side and show that they were not evil people (evil in the sense on 100% bad). It really shows how a bullied kid's reality is totally distorted. In short, its the story no one truely cared about, everyone else just wanted to pin blame.

So my question is what do you think of this game? You can find out more info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_columbine_massacre_rpg . Do you think that it is just insensitive to the victims or do you think it was one of those true rare games that tells an important story that everyone should know? If you think a book would do better I would disagree, an RPG is the perfect platform to voice a story like this and it really shows the distorted reality and mindset of these two young boys.
 
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Well, I have no problems with those games nor do I have
a problem against the movies that are "based on stories"
like Columbine.

As you said, these games and movies shows why people
does things like the Columbine Massacre and I personally
believe that it's "good" to show the world why they do it
and make us understand why.

Personal thoughts:
Some people says that games, movies, comics and more
triggers people to commit suicide, massacres and other weird stuff
and I personally believe that this is all bullshit.
If you're not mentally retarded, you should be able to tell the difference
between games/movies and reality...
 
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Its actually proven statistically (I'll need to go dig it up though)that violent video games have almost halved violent outbreaks in males under 21. For some reason though, the number of female outbreaks has increased, most of which play or watch excessive violence :/ .

However what it mostly comes down to is how mentally fit people are and how they take in violence in games and movies. It also comes down to parenting your children properly so they understand the difference between TV and real violence.
 
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Its actually proven statistically (I'll need to go dig it up though)that violent video games have almost halved violent outbreaks in males under 21. For some reason though, the number of female outbreaks has increased, most of which play or watch excessive violence :/ .
I don't know about female outbreaks, but this pretty much sums it all up for you, statistically (?) speaking.

However what it mostly comes down to is how mentally fit people are and how they take in violence in games and movies. It also comes down to parenting your children properly so they understand the difference between TV and real violence.
Exactly. And you know something? It's funny how the media bashes video games for violence, because they did the same thing for "FULL DIGITAL NUDITY AND SEX". You guys remember that Fox News report about Mass Effect? If not, let this refresh your memory. Yep. Total load of BS.
 
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I think it's a little more than "kind of controversial", Steel. Especially with the pissing and what-not. I always thought Manhunt was the most controversial, though. Oh, and there was some kind of Hentai picture-taking game, I believe. Saw it on X-Play.

W/e, don't judge my opinion based on usage of words lol.

And screw all those games, google "Rapelay".
 
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let this refresh your memory.

This is one of the only things in the world that makes me wanna
kill someone, the only time my mouth wanna taste blood...
And I don't like it...

This stupid bitch isn't looking for facts, but jumps
strait to her own opinions without having any idea
what she’s talking about. She apparently hates
"female nudity/porn or whatever" (I respect this, but we are humans (men ^^) after all)
and games are responsible for the "great gap between women and men"
and men’s stupidity (*horny ideas about women? So what? Our life, right?)
(well, we are, but females are as well and
so is humanity, but we can make wonders as well…).

Eeeh? Okey...? I'm speechless... But all I can say is...
It's always been like that and I can tell you one thing,
games haven't made a bigger or smaller gap between us :ugly:

* All people have sexual ideas and fantasies, how they
want people to look like and, yeah, you know the drill.
But I can guess that around 95% (HOPE!) learns that
IT’S NOT REALITY!, and the most of us learns to live with it...

Yeah I know… Weird post, but I’m pissed…
I could write more and better about this, but not right now.......
 
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Dreadnought[dA];1237370 said:
People, nothing changes. Just sit back, relax, and have a good laugh. Women will always think they are being stereotyped as sexual objects as long as men think women are hot.
Boy, that gave me a good laugh!
 
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Dreadnought[dA];1237370 said:
People, nothing changes. Just sit back, relax, and have a good laugh. Women will always think they are being stereotyped as sexual objects as long as men think women are hot.
Or as long as women continue to help promote themselves as sex objects. Women don't realize, or refuse to admit that it's just as much their fault for the way media portray them.
 
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Most people forget they they let their children be exposed to such things, and as long as we have no real ID on the internet, we can be anything we want. We can say we're 21, 7'5 and 350 lbs, when in reality their a 10 year old kid.

The only effective way to stop videogame violence is to outright ban it, bu then theres still open-source designers that can make games and sell them. So fightning against viloence is like fighting the govenment, you'll never win.

I think people need to step back sometimes and stop worring about millions of people, since trying to do something that you think can help people often comes around and bites you. Hard. I mean, I only play FPS games, and have I shot anybody? No. Are my grades low? No, I had the highest marks in most of my classes. Do I ever think about killing anybody? Like most people, yes, but will I follow through? No.

People need to consider outside factors before assuming something like "vidoe games provoke killing".
 
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Most people forget they they let their children be exposed to such things, and as long as we have no real ID on the internet, we can be anything we want. We can say we're 21, 7'5 and 350 lbs, when in reality their a 10 year old kid.

The only effective way to stop videogame violence is to outright ban it, bu then theres still open-source designers that can make games and sell them. So fightning against viloence is like fighting the govenment, you'll never win.

I think people need to step back sometimes and stop worring about millions of people, since trying to do something that you think can help people often comes around and bites you. Hard. I mean, I only play FPS games, and have I shot anybody? No. Are my grades low? No, I had the highest marks in most of my classes. Do I ever think about killing anybody? Like most people, yes, but will I follow through? No.

People need to consider outside factors before assuming something like "vidoe games provoke killing".

You're wrong, monkey see, monkey do.
 
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Dreadnought[dA];1241650 said:
You're wrong, monkey see, monkey do.

The only people that see violence in video games, then replicate it are mentally unstable people in the first place. We could say "well then let's just not sell games to those people!", but then those people will complain, saying we're being prejudiced, etc, etc. Honestly, the whole video game violence thing is a load of crap, i'm not going to shoot a zombies head off in a game, then go run around carrying a loaded shotgun in the real world.

Read that article someone posted a few posts back, it statistically proves that the MAJORITY of school shootings were not influenced by violence in video games. Sure, some of them were, but once again, those kids were mentally unstable from the get go, already had violent/suicidal tendencies and such, you give them the means, they'll find a way, and they did.
 
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