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He fears that the Greek households will suffer to much if they change currency, I believe they will survive it if they manage to increase the income of the country. Greece can't afford to go on short-term solutions, long-term is the only answer.
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Germany 1923-1933
Weinmal republic.
Stressman changed currency, via making all money in the country null and void, while handing 20<Currencyname> To each person. During in the period of transition NOtes stamped by the banks were legal tender till the end of the transition period
The Euro was a joke. Also italy is cannot be compared to France or German
Germany>France>Italy in industry. Germany should have kept its own currency, it is the currently the powerhouse of the Euro. Without Germany, France and Italy and Greece etc would have a worthless currency.
With that said, the Germans probably feel like the British, but while stuck inbetween a rock and a hard place. British feelings are "Why are we bailing out countries that won't effect us" Because if anything happens bad to there economies the Euro drops we get cheap imports and make ourselves rich.
While Germany is more of "Why are we bailing out the whole of Europe, other countries should contribute too. This is mixed with regret of joining the Euro.
The followers of the Euro will be thinking what they can do to fix this and why it happened.
Why it happened is simply because the EU was never meant to be ran as a government. It was mean't to be a free market and only a free market. Pretty much Maragret Thatcher's Idea of the European Union. However Thatchter was an extreme capitalist. However the words are true
Also to the comment about The Allies not winning without the USA involement.
WTF? Are you on about. Derp Hitler offered a peace treaty with Britain twice. First before the war. Secondly after we had one of the biggest failures in history at Dunkirk. I mean come on he gave us a leniant peace treaty which meant we kept ourselves as ourselves. All he asked was for peace and nothing in return. Jesus hitler was that confident that he relaxed production in the Czechslovakian factories. And you say we would of lost without the USA pfft.
Not to mention if the USA wasn't selling german and britain weapons in WW1 that USA would not be an economic power. Nor would it have any effect.
America has and allways will make its money from getting two nations to fight each other. Sell them weapons. Then coming in clearing up the mess and taking the spoils.
Britain Vs Germany. WW1 Britain and Germany owe billions to america. Usa steps in takes information and tech from germany. Then later when Germany can't pay its bills in reparation. USA asks Britain to cut the reperation bill. Britain replies that it will only if the USA cut the Debt they owe them. USA don't cut the Debt. Britain can't in any financial sense cut its reperation bill on germany. Germany turns to Stresseman after multiple fights and 4-5 years of anarachy. After this the economy picks up again. And America invests heavilly in German industry.
1929 Wall street crash.
America asks for its loan back and pronto. (Most of the prominant bankers in America at the time were Jewish, and that was the time of the Honest bankers)
Hitler comes around in 1930+ Pointing out that America has caused the huge debt because they gave loans then asked repayment suddenly. When that was not was originally intended. He points out American Bankers were Jewish. So in a simple irrational step all the problems were by the Bankers. The bankers were jews So Jews are to blame.
So not only has the USA engineered the Downfall of the Weihnmar Republic and Rise of hitler. But they also managed to implement simple irrational justification in germany for mass murder of the jews and holocausts. Most people who at the start when jews were in concentration camps. Saw it as what the Americans or British did so accepted it.
So what happens. Hitler takes power. He sits around a few years offers britain alliance. And begins rearmament. The german army walks into Europe. Britain in no condition to fight and feeling guilty for the reparations and restrictive Dictat of a treaty. Which was actually caused by the French President who wanted such extreme measures. Since loyd george was pragmatic. Anyway so yeh that happens
And guess what Hitler invades poland. 6 years of war follow where only 2 years included the Americans. And 4 years America finacially supported Britain in loans.
Hey look America is instead of intervening like they should first spending 4 years to make huge profits of the current Worlds strongest empire.
Cool so that fair and just.
So Britain from two world wars goes from Economic power state to nothing. And who's to blame.
Now lets read back and think.
All these problems stemmed from Overcaptalist and greedy Americans who want to fill their pockets. To fill these pockets they fed wars caused by misunderstandings with weapons and hatred. So millions died. So america could get rich ?
Not to mention Japan and Germany after WW2 Lost billions of Pounds/Dollars (W/e u wanna call it) in State secrets.
One for example German scientists. Such scientists pioneered alot of the "American Discoveries" and Feets of engineering. Like Germany scientists worked on the A-Bomb and the Spaceships :L.
And now in 2011 they are still doing this on countries like Israel and Palastine and gaining oil. But hey the world lets America stomp around controlling everyone.
Thank god that sensible countries like Pakistan are getting nukes so they can protect themselves. Pakistan and China hit America with the Ultimatum when America was gonna fuel India with weapons to attack the Pakistani's.
Again another example how the US plays of others. But if they do it will cause WW3/ So we can wait and see what they will do. Do they care now that this time their throats are on the line instead of Alien countries miles away from them?
it seems so.
On a side note after Hitler failed and winter ensued in Russia, Russia if regrouped had a high chance of pushing them back and causing a scene like in WW1. Where Germany gets sandwiched and eventually dies
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