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[SOPA] Calling all Internet Lovers - Stop Online Piracy Act!!

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Fight the power, if you are an internet lover, a YouTube browser, or a person that loves to socialize with your friend then you need to be aware of what the government is doing!!

Google the word "SOPA"

Huge companies like Google, Microsoft, Firefox, Ebay, 4Chan, Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo are all being threatened to shut down or sued to bankruptcy!!

And they are all fighting against this too!! Read on CNN
SOPA piracy bill is 'draconian,' Google and tech giants say - Nov. 16, 2011

On BBC:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15757282

So fight back! Because if this act passes which it has a huge amount of support from the government, then say good bye to Private Server Industry, The Torrents industry, the porn industry, the social media industry, blogging and forums industry! or any rights or freedoms you think you have on the internet!


Spread the awareness!! Dont let the government block our voices!! Fight the power!! You might as well just sell your computers and say hello to the StoneAges!!

PROTECT IP Act Breaks The Internet on Vimeo/31100268

Biden on Internet Freedom = Anti-SOPA - YouTube
 
Who cares about Google?
Read books to find your shit.

Who cares about Microsoft?
Everything they make is shit. (Except for their X-box and their Windows 7 OS)

Who cares about Firefox?
If they shutdown, just search for their browser on some warez site.

Who cares about E-bay?
Most of the stuff up for grabs is shit.

Who cares about 4Chan?
No really.

Who cares about Facebook?
We have real-life.

Who cares about Twitter?
It's for attention-whores.

Who cares about Yahoo?
I don't give a shit.
 
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Who cares about Google?
Read books to find your shit.

Who cares about Microsoft?
Everything they make is shit. (Except for their X-box and their Windows 7 OS)

Who cares about Firefox?
If they shutdown, just search for their browser on some warez site.

Who cares about E-bay?
Most of the stuff up for grabs is shit.

Who cares about 4Chan?
No really.

Who cares about Facebook?
We have real-life.

Who cares about Twitter?
It's for attention-whores.

Who cares about Yahoo?
I don't give a shit.
Please STFU about Google and Microsoft...everything else can burn !!!
 
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It affects one continent*

Which in turn causes ripples that affect other nations. Still, it will be worst for the Americans.

Indeed. If you think that this only affects Americans then you're retarded. This has international ramifications.

So would someone please contact their Congressman? As I am unable to do so. And I'm certainly not going to ask my country's Minister of Foreign Affairs to go to Washington to give Canadians' take on this issue, John Baird be crazy.

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Huge companies like Google, Microsoft, Firefox, Ebay, 4Chan, Facebook, Twitter, Yahoo are all being threatened to shut down or sued to bankruptcy!!

Oh fucking NO?? What am I gonna do without them? ...

I say pirate the ones you want down. Today's world is controled by monopolists who dont leave any air for the smaller companies to live. I think the US protests some time ago were exactly against the big corps. So DO pirate THEM to get them down.

I have favorite shows, games that I buy, I dont like when for example SC2 got pirated in the very first days, it was unpleasant to see.. I really disliked it. But yeah such guys are OK and to buy their stuff but some corporations have tons of fat made of money on their bellies!

Some need to go down (even though I do not like the piracy happening for everything), if this will bring those down. Sometimes we need to make sacrifices for the sake of good.
 
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Oh fucking NO?? What am I gonna do without them? ...

I say pirate the ones you want down. Today's world is controled by monopolists who dont leave any air for the smaller companies to live. I think the US protests some time ago were exactly against the big corps. So DO pirate THEM to get them down.

Do you even know the definition of monopoly? Because it's actually one of the most poorly defined things in our world. I can think of dozens of examples of governments going after so called "monopolies", just because they were large companies. Yet I can't think of one instance when an actual monopoly was taken down by a government.

The fact of that matter is big companies are economically efficient, and most big companies in fact started as very small businesses. Wal Mart, Sears, and JC Penny spring to mind. I could name several others.

Big business only kills inefficient small businesses. I have a Wal Mart and many other large retail chains within a 5 minute drive away yet there are hundreds and hundreds of small businesses in the same radius.

The idea that big business destroys small businesses is completely fallacious.
 
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Fallacious? Why is there: programs promoting the small and medium business and measures towards monopoly? Also you seem to like monopolists? What if they one day decided to raise e.g the electricity costs (as they constantly do), and you had to pay more, would you like that? Do you pay the housing, the taxes yourself? Often times small firms are forced to shut down due to going bankrupt due to not getting enough income because the large companies as being large can attract people more and duh, nothing is left for smaller ones.


And let's not forget, not sure if it has ever passed through your mind but some get lots of money in illegal way and make something big out of it. And the only justified thing out of all this is when people, whether with illegal earnings invest their money on making companies, creating work places and jobs for people. This is the good side of it rather than someone living like a parasite and wondering how to waste his money for his own pleasure. Such parasites need to be eliminated

I also prefer visiting the malls and buying frm there than some cheap markets, I also love working for big companies but that doesn't mean those who have their own business should not be given a chance to live, what are you to defend the current situation? I just love when people are right about many things, then there always comes some 'bright thinker' to defend something that is so wrong.
 
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Fallacious? Why is there: programs promoting the small and medium business and measures towards monopoly? Also you seem to like monopolists? What if they one day decided to raise e.g the electricity costs (as they constantly do), and you had to pay more, would you like that? Do you pay the housing, the taxes yourself? Often times small firms are forced to shut down due to going bankrupt due to not getting enough income because the large companies as being large can attract people more and duh, nothing is left for smaller ones.

I see more false claims with no evidence. Now I don't know where you live, but where I live big business and small business coexist very peacefully. They are able to do this because our local business owns are competent and understand that they must make the best use of the advantages they have over big companies.

Big businesses have: Wide varieties of products to chose from, they are open for longer hours, have ample parking space, and low prices.

Small businesses have: Convenience, friendly service, and higher quality products (in some cases).

And let's not forget, not sure if it has ever passed through your mind but some get lots of money in illegal way and make something big out of it. And the only justified thing out of all this is when people, whether with illegal earnings invest their money on making companies, creating work places and jobs for people. This is the good side of it rather than someone living like a parasite and wondering how to waste his money for his own pleasure. Such parasites need to be eliminated

Of course that happens, and that kind of illegal activity and corruption is what our governments should be fighting. Rather than cases likes the morons in the EU charging Microsoft with being a "monopoly".

I also prefer visiting the malls and buying frm there than some cheap markets, I also love working for big companies but that doesn't mean those who have their own business should not be given a chance to live, what are you to defend the current situation? I just love when people are right about many things, then there always comes some 'bright thinker' to defend something that is so wrong.

Small businesses do have a chance, there are hundreds if not thousands within a 5 km radius of my house, and they coexist with dozens of large chain retailers.
 
@Destroyer25, actually Roosevelt broke up a railroad trust, but that DEFINITELY wasn't a monoploy. But everyhting else you said sounds about right.

SOPA is ridiculous. If there isn't illegal content on a site, the site can't be taken down. Any site in question also has to have a judges approval before it can be taken down. The way I see it, it is Hollywood trying to stop pirating by (inappropriately) using Congress.

Everyone seems to forget that the internet is not actually a "right" we have. We don't have the right to use videos from Youtube on our Facebook accounts.

I have no problem with SOPA.
 
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@Destroyer25, actually Roosevelt broke up a railroad trust, but that DEFINITELY wasn't a monoploy. But everyhting else you said sounds about right.

Yeah the Northern Securities Company was really just another fictitious "monopoly". To be a monopoly they have to attempt to deny other companies entry into the industry. The fact that they "controlled" almost all of the market is irrelevant. If they don't force out competitors they aren't a real monopoly.
 
Big business only kills inefficient small businesses. I have a Wal Mart and many other large retail chains within a 5 minute drive away yet there are hundreds and hundreds of small businesses in the same radius.

The idea that big business destroys small businesses is completely fallacious.

For example, when some small shops are opened somewhere, a big company like Wal Mart can just drop their prices, making the customer visit Wal Mart instead of those smaller shops, they can afford that, because they are already rich and that small sacrifice is not a problem for them, since it will allow more business later, while smaller shops can't afford them. After that the big company raises the prices again and we are in the same situation. Already happened in my quarters.
 
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Who cares about Google?
Read books to find your shit.

Who cares about Microsoft?
Everything they make is shit. (Except for their X-box and their Windows 7 OS)

Who cares about Firefox?
If they shutdown, just search for their browser on some warez site.

Who cares about E-bay?
Most of the stuff up for grabs is shit.

Who cares about 4Chan?
No really.

Who cares about Facebook?
We have real-life.

Who cares about Twitter?
It's for attention-whores.

Who cares about Yahoo?
I don't give a shit.

Google is irreplaceably immportant to modern word, but most of countries who have lots of internet users have similar services, not to mention Google can just move their main ofices and stuff like that to other countries. Like Europe.

Facebook? The only thing that concerns me is that if all the creeps from it will flood the real world if they won't be able to hang out in the internet.

Yahoo? Twitter? E-bay? Are those Japanese Pop bands or something?

Well, most of gaming and other large companies can just move to Europe or anywhere else on the globe (Microsoft HQ in Antarctica? Sure, why not!). Just a few months of the global moving and the industry is back to action.

So see, this is how it go: USA will transform into a totalitarian hell and everyone will be happy because no more carpet bombing and orders what to do for the rest of the world.
(PS: No offense Americans, you're great! Your government... not so much)



And... I think we had a thread about this bill like million times already.
 
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For example, when some small shops are opened somewhere, a big company like Wal Mart can just drop their prices, making the customer visit Wal Mart instead of those smaller shops, they can afford that, because they are already rich and that small sacrifice is not a problem for them, since it will allow more business later, while smaller shops can't afford them. After that the big company raises the prices again and we are in the same situation. Already happened in my quarters.

I already explained that small businesses have distinct advantages over big businesses, and vise versa. Big businesses have cheaper prices, but small businesses are more convenient, have higher quality products (a lot of stuff in Wal Mart is just junk), and you get much better services.

Big business only kills inefficient small business. Well run small businesses don't need to compete with big business, as they can provide different services.
 
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this is one big bloated bs
I loled at the OP's claims of "then say good bye to The Torrents industry"
you know what ? no matter whether you accept it or not "torrents industry" is illegal and their defense of "not being responsible" for shared content is a joke.

no matter whether you accept it or not majority of youtube videos infringe on copyright
you know what ? if they wanted to they could take legal steps anytime (and they do seeing how many videos are being taken down)
SOP act only makes it easier for those who are arsed enough to do so

and you know what ? just because it would become slightly easier to do so the number of those who would be arsed enough to do so won't raise that much anyway
there is no financial gain out of it and hunting down every and each case of copyright infringement would be counter-productive at best.

seeing even credible and serious sources (gamespot) act like kids towards this
claiming that you could get sued for "showcasing your mad starcraft 2 skills online"
is just so silly and exaggerated it's making me lol

and lol at OP:
"Say good bye to any rights or freedoms you think you have on the internet!"
orly, so according to you, your "right" is to infringe on/damage other people's hard work freely and en masse ?
sorry to burst your bubble, it is not.
 
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seeing even credible and serious sources (gamespot) act like kids towards this
claiming that you could get sued for "showcasing your mad starcraft 2 skills online"
Could, not will-knowing Blizzard, such cases would be rare, but it might happen with other companies at a more frequent rate.
 
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yes you can get sued for that, but not because of SOPA

SOPA is not targeting individuals
now let's see an example of why this act is being fought against so much:
you post copyrighted content on youtube, blizzard trips over your video and contacts youtube to take it down, youtube has 10 days to take it down
youtube does take it down

now dice, pyranha bytes, bethesda, ea games, konami, square enix, capcom, sony, microsoft, nintendo, dreamworks, lucas arts, hollywood
bon jovi and mickey mouse trip over your video.. they contact youtube to take it down, youtube has 10 days to take it down
youtube does not take it down in 10 days because aside the ones mentioned above 20,000 authors requested removal too what happens ?
it is considered to disregard the requests thus is in risk of their services being obstructed by legal means

that's where the SOPA 'masterminds' failed at
the only ones you see complaining are giant online services who either:
1) live off sharing arguable or illegal content (sharing sites, torrents, youtube-alikes)
2) are aware they won't be able to comply with all the requests in time (Google, Facebook and other services that care a big bucket of something unpleasant about customer feedback)

SOPA is faulty, but not because it obstructs any of your rights
it would only damage the rich, the powerful those who live off you however they ironically managed to pull the gullible and uneducated audience onto their side

and don't get it wrong reproducing, modifying, copying, sharing or otherwise infringe on copyrighted content was never your right nor your freedom of speech
no it's not CHINA, no it won't be any kind of censorship like what the rich are trying to make you believe in
too bad people are stupid in general, too bad the act won't go through
the common simpletons will keep on indulging themselves in worthless online activities
while the rich will keep swimming in money thanks to them
 
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yes you can get sued for that, but not because of SOPA

SOPA is not targeting individuals
now let's see an example of why this act is being fought against so much:
you post copyrighted content on youtube, blizzard trips over your video and contacts youtube to take it down, youtube has 10 days to take it down
youtube does take it down

now dice, pyranha bytes, bethesda, ea games, konami, square enix, capcom, sony, microsoft, nintendo, dreamworks, lucas arts, hollywood
bon jovi and mickey mouse trip over your video.. they contact youtube to take it down, youtube has 10 days to take it down
youtube does not take it down in 10 days because aside the ones mentioned above 20,000 authors requested removal too what happens ?
it is considered to disregard the requests thus is in risk of their services being obstructed by legal means

that's where the SOPA 'masterminds' failed at
the only ones you see complaining are giant online services who either:
1) live off sharing arguable or illegal content (sharing sites, torrents, youtube-alikes)
2) are aware they won't be able to comply with all the requests in time (Google, Facebook and other services that care a big bucket of something unpleasant about customer feedback)

SOPA is faulty, but not because it obstructs any of your rights
it would only damage the rich, the powerful those who live off you however they ironically managed to pull the gullible and uneducated audience onto their side

and don't get it wrong reproducing, modifying, copying, sharing or otherwise infringe on copyrighted content was never your right nor your freedom of speech
no it's not CHINA, no it won't be any kind of censorship like what the rich are trying to make you believe in
too bad people are stupid in general, too bad the act won't go through
the common simpletons will keep on indulging themselves in worthless online activities
while the rich will keep swimming in money thanks to them
Many are okay with it, though.
 
You do understand, that this only effects one continent?
You are aware of that.

You do understand that big companies have servers everywhere around the world, in places OTHER than America, to keep on rollin' ?
You did not know that.

You do know that even if a server is shut on America, it will not be shut everywhere else?
You didn't know that either.
 
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So fight back! Because if this act passes which it has a huge amount of support from the government, then say good bye to Private Server Industry, The Torrents industry, the porn industry, the social media industry, blogging and forums industry! or any rights or freedoms you think you have on the internet!

Oh My F*ucking God!!!!!!!!!
 
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On the 21st of December they will vote it again. I think people underestimate the damage this bill can cause.

Edit: EA is openly supporting SOPA.
 
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Bad news 2.0 {WTF is SOPA ?}

Video by TotalHailbut

WTF is SOPA ? aka The American Government trying to ruin the INTERNET:goblin_jawdrop:

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"RETRACTION : Activision are not on the list of supporters for SOPA, EA is. The point is still valid, however I'd like to apologise for incorrectly naming Activision. I mixed up the two publishers in my notes."

http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/ngd4r/i_work_in_news_this_is_how_you_stop_sopa/
http://tinyurl.com/techdirtsopa
http://reddit.com/r/sopa
http://www.americancensorship.org
http://tinyurl.com/universalcensors
http://tinyurl.com/writetocongress
http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet
http://t.co/vIhyPU9z
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/sopa-vote-delayed/
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/12/free-speechs-weak-links-under-internet-blacklist-bills

"I actually found out who my representative is and just finished contacting him.

However, it's unfair to blame America(ns) for this, as if to say the honest people living here are pushing for this. Americans with intelligence can and will do something about it, but you'd be troubled to find someone who wakes up smiling ear-to-ear because this bill is going to pass in his/her country. Attack the government; not the people. There are some stupid people in power here, but not all of us are idiots."

"SEPA ( not real , but what those the future hold , maybe this ? ) ; Stop English Piracy Act . A bill that will ban any use of the worlds No. 1 language , unless you buy the rights to use it . The film industry would be affected , the music industry too even countries that use English , but are not England , like India , Canada or New Zealand . What language are you gonna use ? The language of the Aborigines ( no disrespect ) ? STOP S.O.P.A. TODAY , STOP SOPA TOMORROW ! "

"ATTENTION EVERYONE IN SUPPORT OF SOPA:

the very fact that you are here means that you use the internet. It means you use, have used, and will continue to use youtube. If this bill passes, these things will be taken from you. Your ability to use the internet will be forever crippled. You will never be able to use youtube again. Any filesharing sites, sites where you can upload pictures, articles, text, etc will be taken down. that may include facebook, etc. you really want to kill the internet?! "

"The first computer was created in the US, the Internet was created in the US, Youtube which you are watching on right now was created in the US and so was Google who now owns Youtube... so yeah, the US sucks. You should probably judge the US some more..."

"It's sad when i say i agree with what you're saying. Especielly when politician get insider tips from corporations too, which would normally be illegal if anyone else did it. :p But, its actually good however, that people do spread the message. Politicians like ron paul, nancy (just two politicians i quickly found was against the bill) are slowly starting to change their minds regarding the bill. The trouble can be obama however, im not sure he'll veto this."

" Look dude... eventually the act will go so far as to take down stuff like youtube and facebook because they can also be linked to all sorts of so called "infringment". So you should be scared and it won't benefit anyone cause its going to come to we are all FUCKED like MercuryGamers says"

"the servers of youtube are in the us if its blocked no one is allowed in but if its out of the us then no it wont affect you but they are in the us so you not allowed into youtube because its blocked in the us you cant get into the server because any server in the us is blocked form everyone because they block it from every one but if it blocks a site out of the us only us people are blocked"

"This comment will be taken off YouTube for copyright infringement because I said "YouTube".26 :thumbs_up:

" Protection from piracy? bullshit! this has nothing to do whit piracy. This bill that the congress is trying to pass is a direct violation of the first amendment. Companies already started making players and dvds that has a coding in it that would only read coded cds. This is the matter of people that doesn't even know how to work a simple computer trying to gain control of everything. becoming more and more of a dictatorship. cut the crap. i love my country but this is too much."

"I have an idea.

Congress, and our ELECTED government officials needs to know that their actions will have consequences. We find out any and all who made sure these bills got as far as they did, and we make sure they NEVER hold an elected position AGAIN.

And if it comes to it, well, in the immortal words of JFK "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

"the point of the matter here is that there are no longer countries with flags, but the corporations that dominate them.

hence the entire issue"
 
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Let's put our differences aside for a split second and rejoice, in celebration of the 100th version of this topic being posted in the forums.

It's not the 100th version of this topic.

USA is really stubborn about it. Few months ago they tried to get this law approved but it didn't happen. They made some changes, and the bill is again forwarded for being approved.

There are many things happening, people don't seem to care although they should. Of course maybe it won't affect Google as much, or Yahoo, or Microsoft... but it seriously affects small businesses over the internet, and it affects our right of speech.
 
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This doesn't belong in Site Discussion instead of World News because:

Even if SOPA does get past the Senate on the 21st...
Even if SOPA does get past the House of Representatives...
Even if SOPA does get past the White House without veto...
Even if SOPA does get exercised aggressively...

Hive isn't the kind of site to have their DNS entry blocked in the first place.
 
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Hive won't be affected, only silly websites like YouTube, 4chan, maybe social networking sites - the ones nobody ever uses and doesn't care about.
 
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Because it's not going to be blocked...?

Look, have you read the actual bill at all?

I'm not saying the bill should be passed; it shouldn't, but the amount of FUD everyone is spreading about it is counter-productive.
 
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I don't think the bill will pass because over 1.07 million people and counting (me include) sign a petition against it.
Edit: Activision is openly supporting SOPA.

TB meant to said "EA" not Activision.
 
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