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[SOPA] Calling all Internet Lovers - Stop Online Piracy Act!!

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by wickedcool, Nov 18, 2011.

  1. Jazztastic

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    @Destroyer25, actually Roosevelt broke up a railroad trust, but that DEFINITELY wasn't a monoploy. But everyhting else you said sounds about right.

    SOPA is ridiculous. If there isn't illegal content on a site, the site can't be taken down. Any site in question also has to have a judges approval before it can be taken down. The way I see it, it is Hollywood trying to stop pirating by (inappropriately) using Congress.

    Everyone seems to forget that the internet is not actually a "right" we have. We don't have the right to use videos from Youtube on our Facebook accounts.

    I have no problem with SOPA.
     
  2. Squiggy

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    No more fagbook? Fabulous

    Living in Germany, I could care less..
     
  3. Destroyer25

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    Yeah the Northern Securities Company was really just another fictitious "monopoly". To be a monopoly they have to attempt to deny other companies entry into the industry. The fact that they "controlled" almost all of the market is irrelevant. If they don't force out competitors they aren't a real monopoly.
     
  4. Mechanical Man

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    For example, when some small shops are opened somewhere, a big company like Wal Mart can just drop their prices, making the customer visit Wal Mart instead of those smaller shops, they can afford that, because they are already rich and that small sacrifice is not a problem for them, since it will allow more business later, while smaller shops can't afford them. After that the big company raises the prices again and we are in the same situation. Already happened in my quarters.
     
  5. Tleno

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    Google is irreplaceably immportant to modern word, but most of countries who have lots of internet users have similar services, not to mention Google can just move their main ofices and stuff like that to other countries. Like Europe.

    Facebook? The only thing that concerns me is that if all the creeps from it will flood the real world if they won't be able to hang out in the internet.

    Yahoo? Twitter? E-bay? Are those Japanese Pop bands or something?

    Well, most of gaming and other large companies can just move to Europe or anywhere else on the globe (Microsoft HQ in Antarctica? Sure, why not!). Just a few months of the global moving and the industry is back to action.

    So see, this is how it go: USA will transform into a totalitarian hell and everyone will be happy because no more carpet bombing and orders what to do for the rest of the world.
    (PS: No offense Americans, you're great! Your government... not so much)



    And... I think we had a thread about this bill like million times already.
     
  6. Destroyer25

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    I already explained that small businesses have distinct advantages over big businesses, and vise versa. Big businesses have cheaper prices, but small businesses are more convenient, have higher quality products (a lot of stuff in Wal Mart is just junk), and you get much better services.

    Big business only kills inefficient small business. Well run small businesses don't need to compete with big business, as they can provide different services.
     
  7. Talavaj

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    this is one big bloated bs
    I loled at the OP's claims of "then say good bye to The Torrents industry"
    you know what ? no matter whether you accept it or not "torrents industry" is illegal and their defense of "not being responsible" for shared content is a joke.

    no matter whether you accept it or not majority of youtube videos infringe on copyright
    you know what ? if they wanted to they could take legal steps anytime (and they do seeing how many videos are being taken down)
    SOP act only makes it easier for those who are arsed enough to do so

    and you know what ? just because it would become slightly easier to do so the number of those who would be arsed enough to do so won't raise that much anyway
    there is no financial gain out of it and hunting down every and each case of copyright infringement would be counter-productive at best.

    seeing even credible and serious sources (gamespot) act like kids towards this
    claiming that you could get sued for "showcasing your mad starcraft 2 skills online"
    is just so silly and exaggerated it's making me lol

    and lol at OP:
    "Say good bye to any rights or freedoms you think you have on the internet!"
    orly, so according to you, your "right" is to infringe on/damage other people's hard work freely and en masse ?
    sorry to burst your bubble, it is not.
     
  8. Magtheridon96

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    Well, you can. This is business babe :ogre_datass:
     
  9. dead-man-walking

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    Could, not will-knowing Blizzard, such cases would be rare, but it might happen with other companies at a more frequent rate.
     
  10. Talavaj

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    yes you can get sued for that, but not because of SOPA

    SOPA is not targeting individuals
    now let's see an example of why this act is being fought against so much:
    you post copyrighted content on youtube, blizzard trips over your video and contacts youtube to take it down, youtube has 10 days to take it down
    youtube does take it down

    now dice, pyranha bytes, bethesda, ea games, konami, square enix, capcom, sony, microsoft, nintendo, dreamworks, lucas arts, hollywood
    bon jovi and mickey mouse trip over your video.. they contact youtube to take it down, youtube has 10 days to take it down
    youtube does not take it down in 10 days because aside the ones mentioned above 20,000 authors requested removal too what happens ?
    it is considered to disregard the requests thus is in risk of their services being obstructed by legal means

    that's where the SOPA 'masterminds' failed at
    the only ones you see complaining are giant online services who either:
    1) live off sharing arguable or illegal content (sharing sites, torrents, youtube-alikes)
    2) are aware they won't be able to comply with all the requests in time (Google, Facebook and other services that care a big bucket of something unpleasant about customer feedback)

    SOPA is faulty, but not because it obstructs any of your rights
    it would only damage the rich, the powerful those who live off you however they ironically managed to pull the gullible and uneducated audience onto their side

    and don't get it wrong reproducing, modifying, copying, sharing or otherwise infringe on copyrighted content was never your right nor your freedom of speech
    no it's not CHINA, no it won't be any kind of censorship like what the rich are trying to make you believe in
    too bad people are stupid in general, too bad the act won't go through
    the common simpletons will keep on indulging themselves in worthless online activities
    while the rich will keep swimming in money thanks to them
     
  11. dead-man-walking

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    Many are okay with it, though.
     
  12. Cihparg

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    You do understand, that this only effects one continent?
    You are aware of that.

    You do understand that big companies have servers everywhere around the world, in places OTHER than America, to keep on rollin' ?
    You did not know that.

    You do know that even if a server is shut on America, it will not be shut everywhere else?
    You didn't know that either.
     
  13. takakenji

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    Oh My F*ucking God!!!!!!!!!
     
  14. Edhel-dur

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM&feature=g-logo&context=G22e1ca7FOAAAAAAAAAA

    On the 21st of December they will vote it again. I think people underestimate the damage this bill can cause.

    Edit: EA is openly supporting SOPA.
     
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  15. SA Dashie

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    It's no big deal.
    It's only America.
     
  16. TerranDominion

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    Bad news 2.0 {WTF is SOPA ?}

    Video by TotalHailbut

    WTF is SOPA ? aka The American Government trying to ruin the INTERNET:goblin_jawdrop:

    [​IMG]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwuXNv8fJM


    "RETRACTION : Activision are not on the list of supporters for SOPA, EA is. The point is still valid, however I'd like to apologise for incorrectly naming Activision. I mixed up the two publishers in my notes."

    http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/ngd4r/i_work_in_news_this_is_how_you_stop_sopa/
    http://tinyurl.com/techdirtsopa
    http://reddit.com/r/sopa
    http://www.americancensorship.org
    http://tinyurl.com/universalcensors
    http://tinyurl.com/writetocongress
    http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_internet
    http://t.co/vIhyPU9z
    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/12/sopa-vote-delayed/
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/12/free-speechs-weak-links-under-internet-blacklist-bills

    "I actually found out who my representative is and just finished contacting him.

    However, it's unfair to blame America(ns) for this, as if to say the honest people living here are pushing for this. Americans with intelligence can and will do something about it, but you'd be troubled to find someone who wakes up smiling ear-to-ear because this bill is going to pass in his/her country. Attack the government; not the people. There are some stupid people in power here, but not all of us are idiots."

    "SEPA ( not real , but what those the future hold , maybe this ? ) ; Stop English Piracy Act . A bill that will ban any use of the worlds No. 1 language , unless you buy the rights to use it . The film industry would be affected , the music industry too even countries that use English , but are not England , like India , Canada or New Zealand . What language are you gonna use ? The language of the Aborigines ( no disrespect ) ? STOP S.O.P.A. TODAY , STOP SOPA TOMORROW ! "

    "ATTENTION EVERYONE IN SUPPORT OF SOPA:

    the very fact that you are here means that you use the internet. It means you use, have used, and will continue to use youtube. If this bill passes, these things will be taken from you. Your ability to use the internet will be forever crippled. You will never be able to use youtube again. Any filesharing sites, sites where you can upload pictures, articles, text, etc will be taken down. that may include facebook, etc. you really want to kill the internet?! "

    "The first computer was created in the US, the Internet was created in the US, Youtube which you are watching on right now was created in the US and so was Google who now owns Youtube... so yeah, the US sucks. You should probably judge the US some more..."

    "It's sad when i say i agree with what you're saying. Especielly when politician get insider tips from corporations too, which would normally be illegal if anyone else did it. :p But, its actually good however, that people do spread the message. Politicians like ron paul, nancy (just two politicians i quickly found was against the bill) are slowly starting to change their minds regarding the bill. The trouble can be obama however, im not sure he'll veto this."

    " Look dude... eventually the act will go so far as to take down stuff like youtube and facebook because they can also be linked to all sorts of so called "infringment". So you should be scared and it won't benefit anyone cause its going to come to we are all FUCKED like MercuryGamers says"

    "the servers of youtube are in the us if its blocked no one is allowed in but if its out of the us then no it wont affect you but they are in the us so you not allowed into youtube because its blocked in the us you cant get into the server because any server in the us is blocked form everyone because they block it from every one but if it blocks a site out of the us only us people are blocked"

    "This comment will be taken off YouTube for copyright infringement because I said "YouTube".26 :thumbs_up:

    " Protection from piracy? bullshit! this has nothing to do whit piracy. This bill that the congress is trying to pass is a direct violation of the first amendment. Companies already started making players and dvds that has a coding in it that would only read coded cds. This is the matter of people that doesn't even know how to work a simple computer trying to gain control of everything. becoming more and more of a dictatorship. cut the crap. i love my country but this is too much."

    "I have an idea.

    Congress, and our ELECTED government officials needs to know that their actions will have consequences. We find out any and all who made sure these bills got as far as they did, and we make sure they NEVER hold an elected position AGAIN.

    And if it comes to it, well, in the immortal words of JFK "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

    "the point of the matter here is that there are no longer countries with flags, but the corporations that dominate them.

    hence the entire issue"
     
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    Let's put our differences aside for a split second and rejoice, in celebration of the 100th version of this topic being posted in the forums.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
     
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    *celebrates*
     
  19. Magtheridon96

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    That song is stuck in my head.
    *Celebrate good times, (Come on!)*
     
  20. Edhel-dur

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    It's not the 100th version of this topic.

    USA is really stubborn about it. Few months ago they tried to get this law approved but it didn't happen. They made some changes, and the bill is again forwarded for being approved.

    There are many things happening, people don't seem to care although they should. Of course maybe it won't affect Google as much, or Yahoo, or Microsoft... but it seriously affects small businesses over the internet, and it affects our right of speech.