SIO HD - Stranded in outland

[Gamecrafter_DK]

Everyone! I'm taking a break from constantly making small updates, because i will make one huge update, next weekend. it will maybe be released, so, all my testers, and volunteers, i'd be glad to get a lot of info, before next weekend. i will work heavily on the map then. All who want to join the team, you're welcome!

Map's been updated! some fixing, minor terraining altering, the 2nd combine option added, abilities have been balanced, removed bugs, and assorted minor changes.

 

[Dragonkeeper56]

I'll work on the cliffs and opening cinematic areas to the best of my ability

BTW I could also use some help with the oil gathering triggers in my wc2 conversion map I'm very close but can't come up with any non buggy methods.

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

Yes, thanks, do it with the version here, on the web, it's the newest.

 

[Dragonkeeper56]

Finished Updates

I fixed up the vines at the starting location, tried to make the camera locations a little more pretty, and added a few other terrain and doodad touch-ups.

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

Ooh, oil... well, i have a moment...

Edit: Well it's a nice idea, but then again, your problem is to ADVERTISE on how people are going to play your maps, you won't get half the game expirience without that information, and there's also mighty bugs... Visual, when you upgrade your great hall, all peons get the upgrade animation attached to them... and that doesn't look good... carrying a whole fortress around... and i don't know if it's a bug, but all people with 'undead' as their class get orc units, and the messages 'summon more ziggurats' and so on. this map needs a complete workthrough, and a better description of what to do.

 

[Dragonkeeper56]

So at this point you're just looking for bugs?

I just thought of something this morning for your map. You should have a completely unique computer controlled hero that sometimes leads you to scripted Demon boss fights on the map along with some troops perhaps.

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

Yes, i'm just looking for bugs, and that idea, yeah, i'm trying to implement some RPG features, because it works awesomely often... i have already made a 'tauren guard' hero, which could be that hero... thanks for the idea.

 

[Dragonkeeper56]

The reason for leaving the base to face demon bosses could be that they constructed some sort of tower that interferes with the portal the undead are trying to summon. ;0

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

Perhapsely, but i will focus on finishing the HD part, before starting the rpg-like part... so that's going to have to wait ;P well, it's an idea, and i'll take it into concideration... and BTW, i'm currently trying to make a basic AI system... but if anyone reading this knows how to make a good one, please PM me, or post here. I'm also currently optimizing alot of triggers, as i completely forgot to use arrays and therefore, i have like 20-40 variables... well... if anyone want to know more, or help, or test, PM me, or write here please! this is NOT just a team member chat page.

 

[Dragonkeeper56]

AI

I can kinda do AI depending on what you want. If you can't find any1 better.

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

WEll, that'd be nice... i have made SOME AI, but it doesn't work that well... (they go to the shop... and just stands there, and they can only choose 4 heroes, but that's okay) when you get on, PM me, and we'll chat... in the meantime i'll hunt down my testers and ask them to work more.

 

[Dragonkeeper56]

Do you have the latest map version posted here?

Well I played it all the way until I was defeated at 10 min and here's a few things I noticed.
-You don't have a defeat trigger in place.
-Moves cost too much mana starting around level 5.
-For abilities, because they go over the level of 3, You should write for tool tips something like +55 damage per level and such.
-I also think you should replace some of the less demon like creatures with things like felhunters, sucubuses, fel cannons, doom guards and felguards. + fel orcs are also in league with the demons so you can throw more of their units in there as well.

Other than that looking pretty good.

OMG check out my 1v1 replay (I'm playing as Macgyver)

 

[Dragonkeeper56]

Double post?

Well here's the map with the things you mentioned

-The only thing I can think of is setting up triggers to make the items appear in the computer player's inventory.

Played the map through again and died at 9 minutes this time:
-I think creep come a little too fast (you don't get much time for quests)
-Hero HP should scale up faster to match the creeps (more hit points per strength)
-An I think the dredlord creep that you named vampire should be called nathreziem (this is the name of the dredlord generals)
-I played the Archmage this time and I had to buy many mana pots to cast freely

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

... the map should not be released yet... well, you might got a point there with the time - spawning... but, if you choose archmage, you lose the 'possibility' of having an immense amount of strength... so you can always buy health books... or so... well, the name of the vamps... well... maybe, but how many people know that? and isn't the 'Nathrezim' the name of the lead vampires, when you talk about them generally?

About choosing your hero, if you choose an intellect hero... and are alone... you're bound to get wasted. they aren't all that good in solo play. well... i'll consider what you said.

 

[Dragonkeeper56]

How are the updates going?

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

Finished!

Hello everybody, and thanks for support and testing throughout this project. I've decided to say: Let's get this thing started. So, therefore i made some finishing touches on the map, and it is now nearly ready for release. I'll release it as soon as i've run it through some trigger leak filters. Be ready for the map! it'll be on the hive's map servers in a week at max.