Simple Trigger makes map Impassible

[Jaina Proudless]

Hello, I made a simple trigger that is supposed to add spells to certain unit types dependent on if a research is is completed.

trigger

• Lich new spells
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit enters (Playable map area)
  • Conditions
    • (Current research level of Recovered Power for (Owner of (Entering unit))) Equal to 1
    • Or - Any (Conditions) are true
      • Conditions
        • (Unit-type of (Entering unit)) Equal to Lich (mage)
        • (Unit-type of (Entering unit)) Equal to Lich (necro)
        • (Unit-type of (Entering unit)) Equal to Lich (sage)
  • Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Unit-type of (Entering unit)) Equal to Lich (mage)
      • Then - Actions
        • Unit - Add Immolation (lich) to (Entering unit)
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Unit-type of (Entering unit)) Equal to Lich (necro)
      • Then - Actions
        • Unit - Add Dark Regeneration (lich) to (Entering unit)
      • Else - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • (Unit-type of (Entering unit)) Equal to Lich (sage)
      • Then - Actions
        • Unit - Add Lightning Shield (lich) to (Entering unit)
      • Else - Actions

This trigger has an issue. It makes my whole map impassible. All my units that are on the map can't really move around anywhere when I run the map. They sort of face in the direction and teleport randomly a few units in a random direction or just stay frozen. Also when I try exit the game the game freezes and I need to end it in the task manager.

I only figured out the trigger was causing this because when I delete the trigger the problem goes away.

 

[LordDz]

How many units do you have placed in the map?

 

[Warseeker]

How this is possible? ''A unit enter Playable map area'' ! Make unless a region or spot, that's why the map have this issue.

 

[Zwiebelchen]

Nothing wrong with this trigger. That should definitely work.

Have you checked adding the specific abilities to units manually? Maybe you have some invalid object data.

 

[13oot-Me]

Have you tried having it trigger with a different method?

• Melee Initialization
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Finishes training a unit
  • Conditions
    • (Trained unit-type) Equal to (Your Hero)
  • Actions
    • (Your Actions)

 

[Jaina Proudless]

Have you tried having it trigger with a different method?

• Melee Initialization
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Finishes training a unit
  • Conditions
    • (Trained unit-type) Equal to (Your Hero)
  • Actions
    • (Your Actions)

Training a unit is not the only way those units are made. Maybe the trigger itself is hexed. I will try to make an identical trigger from scratch.

 

[Xonok]

This problem seems very familiar. Do you happen to have a map size that is over the normal?
Link.

 

[Jaina Proudless]

Size like make it have a huge amount of terrain or make it over 8mb?

I am convinced it's some sort of supernatural phenomenom. My map has gotten the evil eye.

 

[LordDz]

How many units do you have placed in the map?
Map size, what is it? 256x256?
Are the spells modified somehow?

 

[Xonok]

The terrain size.

 

[Jaina Proudless]

192x192

638 units placed (including 29 items)

The spells are modified if by that you mean they are altered in the object editor.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Try deleting the trigger, saving, then remaking the trigger.

Occasionally World Edit has been known to randomly mess up the base pathing map. Commonly this manifests itself as walkable water or other undesired pathing anomalies. Forcing it to rebuild the pathing map usually fixes this. However simply saving does not force the pathing map to be rebuilt, instead you need to change something. As such it is possible that deleting this trigger forces the editor to rebuild the pathing map and so fixes the problem.

If it still persists after deleting, saving, testing it is fixed, reconstructing and then testing again this must not be the problem. In that case I would recommend posting the map so that experts can analyse it.

 

[Jaina Proudless]

I deleted the trigger and used the berserker ability to replace the units and add abilities instead. That trigger was cursed or something.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Did you try recreating the trigger? If the trigger really was "cursed" it would be a good idea for experts to find out why so they can explain the cause to other people later who run into the same problem.

 

[Warseeker]

Could you make a screenshot to that new trigger, or is it just the same above ^ only the abilities change?

 

[Jaina Proudless]

I solved the problem by not using any trigger, just using 3 berserker-based abilities with their requirement being the research. I just had to create 3 extra units for this.

Here is some more information about the trigger I got from loading my old backup and testing some more.

Trigger turned off = problem persists
Copy-pasted trigger and deleted old one = problem persists
Created identical copy without copying anything from old trigger = problem persists
Delete trigger, save map, restore trigger, save map = problem persists
Disabled trigger = problem gone
Deleted trigger = problem gone

Dr Super Good, I can send the map to you if you are interested in analyzing this issue.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Dr Super Good, I can send the map to you if you are interested in analyzing this issue.

That would be very useful. It is always good to understand the cause of a problem, rather than simply finding it.

 

[Jaina Proudless]

Hello, the problem occurred once again. This time this trigger was causing it.

cursed trigger

• activate wander
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit enters (Playable map area)
  • Conditions
    • (Unit-type of (Entering unit)) Equal to Daemonic Consumer dummy
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Turn on consumer custom wander <gen>

It was easy making a different trigger that achieved the same outcome so not much sweat to counter this evil sorcery.

Alternative with no issues

• consumer wander activate
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Begins casting an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Daemonic Consumer
  • Actions
    • Trigger - Turn on consumer custom wander <gen>
    • Trigger - Turn off (This trigger)

 

[ZiBitheWand3r3r]

It seems to me the problem is somehow connected with an event: 'Unit enters playable map area'. I look at link in Xonok's post and in that case problem gone after all trigger with event \Unit enters playable map area\ were disabled. Still I dont know the cause.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Is the map 256*256 or 480*480? This may be one of the reasons why WorldEdit does not support larger than 256*256 maps by default.

 

[Jaina Proudless]

Is the map 256*256 or 480*480? This may be one of the reasons why WorldEdit does not support larger than 256*256 maps by default.

192 x 192

 

[Dr Super Good]

Are you using JNGP with UMSWE turned on? UMSWE modifies GUI and terrain pathing as some of its features so a bug in that could cause what you describe.

 

[Jaina Proudless]

No I am not using either of those.

 

[Jaina Proudless]

Alright I made another "a unit enters map" style trigger and I really need this one, no getting around it. The bug, as predicted, occured. It's odd because I also noticed that I already have a few existing triggers based of the event that causes this.

Well after trying to figure out the cause/testing I found that by deleting some other triggers I am using (not the "a unit enters map" ones) the problem ends.

The triggers are the ones needed to run the GDD damage event system.

I will try to get around this one way or the other. For now I will be experimenting deleting/re-copying stuff to see what works.