Should I Remove All Terrain Deformation Spells to Lower Risk of Desync?

[Gnuoy]

Reading that any terrain deformation spell can cause a desync in multiplayer games. Why not just remove every spell, replace it with a similar spell, or just create a triggered spell that does something similar without deforming the terrain? Am I going overboard or is this a valid concern? Any comments appreciated. Thanks.

Is there a comprehensive list anyhwere? Does War Stomp deform the gruond? Is it a good replacement to thunderclap or slam given this deformation concern?

 

[Insanity_AI]

Terrain deformations desync only in case if you've been using GetLocationZ, BlzGetUnitLocalZ and similar natives. On their own they should be fine.

If by some chance you're using Lua, you might want to take a look at HeightMap.

Otherwise, if you are using GetLocationZ, it should be fine as long as you're not using that value for gameplay reasons (i.e. Target is below 50 height, therefore deal damage to it) and using it only for visual purpose (like adjusting the height of some effect, projectile, etc..)

 

[Gnuoy]

Are you prepared to say these threads are "wrong"? I don't mean to be argumentative but just want to be sure.

Known causes of desync

Introduction Players should be able to differentiate a crash, a player leaving and a player being desynchronized. Desync is the fact that one or more player gets disconnected from a online multiplayer game. It's caused by differences in the game state between the game clients. Below I tried...

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Terrain Deformation Spells

I heard that terrain deformations can cause desyncs so I'm trying to remove all of them from my map. -war stomp -thunder clap -shockwave -volcano -earthquake Are there any other spells that cause deformations?

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Terrain Deformations through abilities and triggers

I'm trying to make a quick, deep terrain deformation from 1 location to another, but I don't really understand what some of the arguments do in the natives, and the BJ terrain deformation functions don't make it any clearer. They are below: //Natives...

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What causes players to desync?

Hi there, we have a desync issue with a map we are working on, we are having a look at the triggers but we cant see what is causing it. I have to admit I had no idea that players could desync due to trigger bugs but clearly something is going wrong. There are a number of triggers that play...

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Removing Terrain Deformation of Shockwave

Hey Guys! I've made an ability based on the Shockwave ability. Unfortunately there is this strange terrain deformation effect included, but I want it to be removed. How can I do that?

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[Uncle]

Are you prepared to say these threads are "wrong"? I don't mean to be argumentative but just want to be sure.

Known causes of desync

Introduction Players should be able to differentiate a crash, a player leaving and a player being desynchronized. Desync is the fact that one or more player gets disconnected from a online multiplayer game. It's caused by differences in the game state between the game clients. Below I tried...

www.hiveworkshop.com

Terrain Deformation Spells

I heard that terrain deformations can cause desyncs so I'm trying to remove all of them from my map. -war stomp -thunder clap -shockwave -volcano -earthquake Are there any other spells that cause deformations?

www.hiveworkshop.com

Terrain Deformations through abilities and triggers

I'm trying to make a quick, deep terrain deformation from 1 location to another, but I don't really understand what some of the arguments do in the natives, and the BJ terrain deformation functions don't make it any clearer. They are below: //Natives...

www.hiveworkshop.com

What causes players to desync?

Hi there, we have a desync issue with a map we are working on, we are having a look at the triggers but we cant see what is causing it. I have to admit I had no idea that players could desync due to trigger bugs but clearly something is going wrong. There are a number of triggers that play...

www.hiveworkshop.com

Removing Terrain Deformation of Shockwave

Hey Guys! I've made an ability based on the Shockwave ability. Unfortunately there is this strange terrain deformation effect included, but I want it to be removed. How can I do that?

www.hiveworkshop.com

Shockwave and Thunderclap exist in Melee games (ladder matchmaking) and I don't think those players ever experience desyncs or at least enough of them that it was ever a concern. So I would assume that desyncs are mostly from modding, like Insanity said about using GetLocal() functions. Then again, Warcraft 3 is a mess so who knows for certain...

 

[Achille]

Personally I have encountered desyncs with Terrain Deformation where things like invisible platforms, bridges, and other 'walkable' destructibles are involved. I have tried to recreate some of the scenarios i've experienced to varying success but it happens enough in older maps for the spawn-based strategy community that most of us just code our Warstomps or use crushing wave in lieu of Shockwave.