how to remove terrain defformation from war stomp

[emil23]

hi, war stomp creates terrain defformation and it lags a bit in game i tired using neutral war stomp 1 and set into two values terrain defformation to 0 and still terrain deforms a bit! when using it in game did i do something wrong? or it doesnt allow you to fully remove defformation. or is there alternate spell which i can use? i would like a spell which works in aoe, and stuns enemy! and doesnt deform

 

[Uncle]

You can trigger the effects of War Stomp. You'll need:
-The base ability for casting the spell. I recommend using Channel (Options: Visible, Follow Through Time: 0, Disable Other Abilities = False, and you can create the Special Effect/Art here or trigger it)
-A Dummy unit (Movement Type: None, Speed Base = 0, and it's cast point/cast backswing set to 0)
-An ability based on Storm Bolt for the Stun effect (with a 0 second cooldown, 0 mana cost, 0 missile speed, and 99999 cast range)

Spoiler: Triggers

• War Stomp
  • Events
    • Unit - A unit Starts the effect of an ability
  • Conditions
    • (Ability being cast) Equal to Custom War Stomp
  • Actions
    • Set TempCaster = (Triggering unit)
    • Set TempPlayer = (Triggering player)
    • Set Point = (Position of TempCaster)
    • -------- - --------
    • Unit - Create 1 Dummy for TempPlayer at Point facing Default building facing degrees
    • Set Dummy = (Last created unit)
    • Unit - Add Stun (Dummy Ability) to Dummy
    • Unit - Add a 1.00 second Generic expiration timer to Dummy
    • -------- - --------
    • Custom script: set bj_wantDestroyGroup = true
    • Unit Group - Pick every unit in (Units within 300.00 of Point) and do (Actions)
      • Loop - Actions
        • Set PickedUnit = (Picked unit)
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • (PickedUnit is alive) Equal to True
            • (PickedUnit belongs to an enemy of TempPlayer) Equal to True
            • (PickedUnit is A ground unit) Equal to True
            • (PickedUnit is A structure) Equal to False
            • (PickedUnit is invulnerable) Equal to False
            • (PickedUnit is hidden) Equal to False
          • Then - Actions
            • Set PickedPoint = (Position of PickedUnit)
            • Unit - Move Dummy instantly to PickedPoint
            • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_PickedPoint)
            • Unit - Order Dummy to Human Mountain King - Storm Bolt PickedUnit
            • Unit - Cause TempCaster to damage PickedUnit, dealing 100.00 damage of attack type Spells and damage type Normal
          • Else - Actions
    • -------- - --------
    • Custom script: call RemoveLocation (udg_Point)

You can trigger the damage (I do this already) or apply the damage with the Dummy's Stun ability. If you want the ability to scale per level then you can add levels to the Dummy's Stun ability and then do this:

• Unit - Set level of Stun (Dummy Ability) for Dummy to (Level of (Ability being cast) for TempCaster)

If you trigger the damage and want to scale it per level then you can use a Real variable like this:

• Set Damage = (100.00 x (Real((Level of (Ability being cast) for TempCaster))))

You can also adjust the Area of Effect by changing Pick every unit in (Units within 300.00 of Point).

 

[Warseeker]

Or, you can edit the model by removing the ubersplat event object.

 

[Hermit]

Or, you can edit the model by removing the ubersplat event object.

That still won't remove the terrain deformation, just the cracks on the ground.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Ah you just gotta love terrain deformation lag... It's even worse with shock wave, and don't get me started on earthquake!

 

[Wrda]

Ah you just gotta love terrain deformation lag... It's even worse with shock wave, and don't get me started on earthquake!

Maybe because you're running on a deformated toaster.
I've never experienced any lag with those, unless you are refering to a ridiculous amount of instances running at same time, sure it lags.

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Maybe because you're running on a deformated toaster.
I've never experienced any lag with those, unless you are refering to a ridiculous amount of instances running at same time, sure it lags.

No I am talking about one simple unit casting a spell that causes terrain deformation, clicking a critter long enough for it to explode (causes heavy terrain deformation), and any other kind of terrain deformation horribly lags large maps with lots of terrain height variations and tons of doodads. I mean I can send you my map just to show you so you see that there's not really a lot of stuff going on at once in it.

You can see an example here (this is vanilla war stomp and vanilla shock wave):
The Fountain of Youth (Evil spells showcase) - YouTube | HIVE

 

[Cespie]

Maybe because you're running on a deformated toaster.
I've never experienced any lag with those, unless you are refering to a ridiculous amount of instances running at same time, sure it lags.

I have found that a better PC will indeed make these lags less severe, but like FeelsGoodMan said, there's a bunch of things that will worsen these lags to affect even really good PCs.
The funny part is that I never had any issues with this on the shitty PC I used to play Warcraft 3 back when it launched, but then at some point, this lag issue started appearing. It's almost as if the way that this deformation works was written for hardware/software that was in use at the time, but then became deprecated at some point or another.
Either that, or this problem only really happens in large maps with lots of terrain and doodads. It's entirely possible that terrain deformation are far too wide-reaching in their checks.

 

[Dr Super Good]

The performance issues are caused by destructable count. If you strip all destructables from the map the performance is silky smooth. I proved this with an Azeroth Wars based map where the author reported the exact same problem. With destructables frozen for 1-2 seconds. Without destructables on map no FPS drop at all. I may have removed all doodads as well as destructables, I forget the details.

Suddenly that Blizzard limit in the editor makes more sense!

 

[FeelsGoodMan]

Suddenly that Blizzard limit in the editor makes more sense!

Meh, people should be allowed to create what they want without limits. The people who need that many destructables and doodads will find ways to work around the terrain deformation stuff.

 

[Wrda]

Meh, people should be allowed to create what they want without limits.

That's a dream :d

 

[Cespie]

The performance issues are caused by destructable count. If you strip all destructables from the map the performance is silky smooth. I proved this with an Azeroth Wars based map where the author reported the exact same problem. With destructables frozen for 1-2 seconds. Without destructables on map no FPS drop at all. I may have removed all doodads as well as destructables, I forget the details.

Suddenly that Blizzard limit in the editor makes more sense!

Is it known whether or not the dimensions of a doodad makes a difference, or is it solely the deformation running checks on all doodads in the map that causes this issue? If not, the obvious fix would be to make clutter doodads, but that obviously only works if the problem is related to quantity rather than volume.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Is it known whether or not the dimensions of a doodad makes a difference, or is it solely the deformation running checks on all doodads in the map that causes this issue? If not, the obvious fix would be to make clutter doodads, but that obviously only works if the problem is related to quantity rather than volume.

I have not tested it. All I did was confirm that stutter happened before and then after removing all doodads and destructables no more stutter occurred.