Should cJass be an accepted language on TheHiveWorkshop?

[Bribe]

cJass has been updated with some pretty important fixes. It's apparently no longer bugging with vJass resources.

Here is their link: http://cjass.xgm.ru/feedback.php

cJass was left for dead for quite some time, however its new incarnation appears to have been re-kindled. There also is a promise for a "stable release" in the coming weeks to fix some remaining bugs.

Edit: It's important to mention there is still one major bug with the cJass optimizer a side effect of which compreses strings to turn " " into "". Unless the optimizer was fixed it's not usable. This poll is to get a general idea of the attitude people have towards cJass.

Is allowing cJass resources something that you support? Please share your opinions.

 

[x3GlikE]

Yes I see why not as long as its not buggy and doesn't cause any major problems than why not.

 

[Nestharus]

cJASS still has many bugs left to be resolved and its optimizer optimizes strings.


Until at least all of the bugs that break JASS/vJASS are resolved, I don't think it should be acceptable. To my knowledge, there is only 1 bug that will actually break JASS/vJASS left, and that is in the optimizer. There are still a few cJASS specific bugs, but at least they won't break plain vJASS/JASS code : p.


So yea, once that optimizer is fixed, I'm all for cJASS =).

 

[rysnt11]

overall, i think it's better to have more languanges, as it widens our knowledge of a progam, as i don't have a single "Blink" on this languange, but i support this to be one of the most used languange, since we already have vJass, Jass, & Zinc (or more?)

 

[Nestharus]

overall, i think it's better to have more languanges, as it widens our knowledge of a progam, as i don't have a single "Blink" on this languange, but i support this to be one of the most used languange, since we already have vJass, Jass, & Zinc (or more?)

So, you think cJASS in its current state, which will kill your strings, should be acceptable? : P

 

[rysnt11]

whoops, sorry, forgot to put this:

after all bugs have cleared, then it can be accepted

my bad

 

[Skycraft]

I'll say yes when the bugs are removed. :3

 

[DoctorGester]

yes, after release of new stable ver.

 

[Garfield1337]

Just took a look at a cJASS manual. It has some similarities with Zinc, it's less verbose than vJASS. I guess it's going to be good once stable.

 

[Axarion]

I would be for approving as soon as it has "//! cjass" or "//! nocjass" implemented, because parsing over all vJass stuff can break things.

 

[Nestharus]

It doesn't break much vjass anymore (only stings), but I agree with cjass blocks.

 

[DoctorGester]

adic said, that //!nocjass instruction will be implemented soon.

added:

ok, in 1.4.2.30 (unstable build) there's //! nocjass implemented.

link - http://code.google.com/p/cjass/downloads/detail?name=cJass_AdicHelper_v01040230_exe.zip

also, Nestharus, please give map, where string s = " " becomes "", because i couldn't repeat this bug in my map.

 

[baassee]

As long as the optimizer is not updated, no. Let's just give them some more time to update as said, they seem to care again about this again.

 

[Nestharus]

also, Nestharus, please give map, where string s = " " becomes "", because i couldn't repeat this bug in my map.

Turn the optimizer on. When I wrote Encoder and made the delimiter a space, it got rid of my space :\.

 

[DoctorGester]

http://screenshot.su/show.php?img=915b3d4d1d6ee9b7a9a13725df9ac4c6.jpg m?

 

[Frotty]

Textmacros still dont work at all for me. got the latest version and altered wehack.lua.

 

[Axarion]

Textmacros still dont work at all for me. got the latest version and altered wehack.lua.

Same for me here. It bugs with UnitEvent for example. And using //! nocjass and //! endnocjass makes it crash everytime.

 

[Frotty]

textmacro preprocessing crashes for me for
//! textmacro a
//! endtextmacro
~.~

 

[Axarion]

textmacro preprocessing crashes for me for
//! textmacro a
//! endtextmacro
~.~

//! textmacro a
//! endtextmacro

Will cause an error, while

//! textmacro a
//! endtextmacro
// basically just any other line, even if its empty

seems to work...

 

[Frotty]

True, posted that.
However because it just crashes I cant even find the line causing the error :/
Got a lot of textmacros.

 

[Nestharus]

Well, I'm happy that I didn't start writing stuff in cJASS now ^)^.

 

[Frotty]

Well, they seem to be active working on it @the google code page.
Lets wait for some new updates in the next 3-4 days.

 

[Nestharus]

Try this map with optimizer on

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...510702b71ea7f85d4aefab46d&dateline=1313004147


You'll see that the optimizer succeeds in breaking it. It'll send you to the wc3 menu.

 

[Axarion]

Try this map with optimizer on

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/...510702b71ea7f85d4aefab46d&dateline=1313004147


You'll see that the optimizer succeeds in breaking it. It'll send you to the wc3 menu.

Does it also break with the //! nocjass tag?

 

[Nestharus]

I didn't have cjass enabled, only optimizer.

 

[Deleted member 177737]

(Can't use anything that isn't GUI)

Is there any difference between all of them?

 

[Nestharus]

Is there any difference between all of them?

Between GUI and JASS, yes. Rest converts to JASS, but cJASS allows for a lot of useful things like definitions.

 

[Bribe]

If you work only in GUI then no there's no difference between any of them.

 

[Deleted member 177737]

Between GUI and JASS, yes. Rest converts to JASS, but cJASS allows for a lot of useful things like definitions.

I meant is there any big difference between Jass, vJass, cJass, etc... ?

 

[Nestharus]

cJASS converts to vJASS
vJASS converts to JASS

cJASS has extra tools like definitions that can be highly useful and includes all vJASS features
vJASS has easy OO syntax support and free declaration of globals and all JASS features
JASS has just plain functions and access to GUI variables


So yes, it's easier to code in cJASS than it is in vJASS and it's easier to code in vJASS than it is in JASS, but they all result in the same thing. For a coder, less time working on something and better readability is a big plus.

 

[baassee]

But cJASS hasn't been up-to-date until the last update. That's the main reason why I haven't learned it yet. Although maybe it's time.

 

[Nestharus]

cjass still seems a while away from getting working textmacros

Table by Bribe makes cjass explode.

 

[Deleted member 177737]

So if I wanted to learn one of the Jasses it would be easiest to learn cJass?

 

[Nestharus]

Not right now.. cJASS is broken.

Learn vJASS
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=bwgda7
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=4keo8o
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=l9126t

to get u started

 

[Deleted member 177737]

Ok, thanks.

 

[Bribe]

What about just making a cJass- copy of every vJass resource?

It's easy enough to do. So anyone who uses cJass should just avoid using vJass resources.

Edit: ok, bad idea. There could be a lot of vJass spells that needed to be converted and that could
get very annoying.

 

[baassee]

Edit: ok, bad idea. There could be a lot of vJass spells that needed to be converted and that could
get very annoying.

If it wasn't for your edit, I would have exploded.

 

[DoctorGester]

http://code.google.com/p/cjass/wiki/BetaTestNotes

please read this ^

Also, example of simple cjass spell(with hash):

Code

callback onUnitSpellCast('test'){
    timer t = CreateTimer()
    int id = GetHandleId(t)
    float x = GetSpellTargetX()
    float y = GetSpellTargetY()
    unit u = GetTriggerUnit()
    unit n = CreateUnit(GetOwningPlayer(u), 'dmmy', x, y, 0.)
    UnitAddAbility(n, 'Apiv')
    UnitAddAbility(n, 'Aloc')
    SaveUnitHandle(hash, id, 0, n)
    SaveUnitHandle(hash, id, 1, u)
    SaveEffectHandle(hash, id, 2, AddSpecialEffectTarget("Abilities\\Spells\\Human\\MassTeleport\\MassTeleportTo.mdl", n, "origin"))
    SetUnitScale(n, .6, .6, .6)
    TimerStart(t, .1, true, lambda void(){
        timer t = GetExpiredTimer()
        int id = GetHandleId(t)
        unit n = LoadUnitHandle(hash, id, 0)
        unit u = LoadUnitHandle(hash, id, 1)
        float x, y
        if (IsUnitType(n, UNIT_TYPE_DEAD)){
            DestroyEffect(LoadEffectHandle(hash, id, 2))
            DestroyTimer(t)
            FlushChildHashtable(hash, id)
            return
        }
        for(int i = 0; i < PlayerCount; i++){
            if (distun(n, Hero[i]) <= 128. && !IsUnitType(Hero[i], UNIT_TYPE_DEAD) && GetOwningPlayer(n) != GetOwningPlayer(Hero[i])){
                x = polarx(u, angleun(n, u), 64.)
                y = polary(u, angleun(n, u), 64.)
                effectPoint("Abilities\\Spells\\NightElf\\Blink\\BlinkTarget.mdl", x, y)
                effectPoint("Abilities\\Spells\\NightElf\\Blink\\BlinkTarget.mdl", GetUnitX(Hero[i]), GetUnitY(Hero[i]))
                SetUnitX(Hero[i], x)
                SetUnitY(Hero[i], y)
                damageTarget(u, Hero[i], 75.)
                KillUnit(n)
                break
            }
        }
    })
}

 

[Axarion]

These new version still have errors. I get an '"endlibrary" missing' error now... Also trying to change update settings crashes the editor

 

[Nestharus]

Billion bugs

http://code.google.com/p/cjass/issues/list


I can't even run the optimizer on some maps >.>. It too crashes.


The only thing that seems to never crash is Remove Unused Code, but it doesn't even work since it doesn't remove all unused code >.>.


And auto flush apparently only works with adic parser enabled -.- (if it works at all).


What I have learned is that all leakable handle locals must be nulled, even if you are returning the local >: o. This means that if you have something that like returns a unit and stores that unit into a local before returning it, yes, your script Leaks >: O.

The way to fix this is to temporarily set it to a global... yes.. and then null the local and return the global.


Only in JASS do you have to go through such craziness in order to even fix a leak... no, I shouldn't say that.. visual c++/cli is even more bs than JASS is.

 

[Axarion]

1.4.2.34 is out hope it works, did not test yet.

* Fixed 1.4.2.33 bugs
* Fixed crash with incorrect textmacro declaration
* Added "use" instruction to for loop, which works with units

 

[DoctorGester]

Autoflush works now. And adic said, that he sucessfully parsed encoder, but there are still few important bugs left.

 

[Nestharus]

I successfully parsed it too, but I still can't parse Bonus or UnitIndexer.

Then there are other bugs too ; p.

 

[Axarion]

v1.4.2.35 is out: (bump)

* Fixed static if busg (now it support C-style blocks)
* Fixed callback function arguments processing
* Added /mcm mode - update wehack.lua (http://code.google.com/p/cjass/wiki/BetaTestNotes)

Still unable to parse UnitIndexer

 

[DoctorGester]

Nestharus, can you post an archive with some of your maps, like unit indexer or so, adic needs them for testing. 5 maps will be enough, thx.

 

[Nestharus]

Even if I post my system library, he'll still need to install the systems to his computer. He won't be able to just save it .