Shore of Corals

[Moderator]

10:36, 7th Mar 2009 by by bounty hunter2:
Seems that you fixed everything I required, so here is the sum up: Interesting idea to a melee map, with average terrain and a bit lack of balance, however: Approved with a 3/5 (Useful) rating.

You can find my old review Here.

 

[bounty hunter2]

I played this, don't have time for a full comment now, I'l post it tomorrow probably, but I think this will be somewhere about a 2 or 3, will see.

 

[Septimus]

1) Map description was not in english, breaking the site rules.
2) Contain custom item & unit - Making this no longer a melee map. Remove them or change the category.
3) Item drop inbalance.
4) Some of the neutral hostile facing position was set at random.
5) No neutral hostile guarding gold mine. Unless it was a 1 vs 1 map, all gold mine with player starting location must have a neutral hostile or else it won't be a fair match. Suppose I am undead, I could have easily order my acolyte to go to the other gold mine, build and gather resources right over it. Enable me to have 2 gold mine to speed up my resources gathering.
6) 3 dragon at the middle of the map and 1 of them was custom unit with level 17? That was quite inbalance since there is nothing at the middle of the map as well.
7) Go to scenario property and change the controller slot to user instead of computer. Currently it indicate this as single player map.

Based on the map quality, it was approvable once you fix those error. Right now it was 1/5 from me as it was breaking the site rules.

 

[APproject]

Well thanks for such comprehensive review to you, Septimus. I think I've fixed everything what you mentioned.

 

[Septimus]

Now it was acceptable. Rating change to 3, but 1 question. Where did all those dust come from? (Refer to the middle of the map)

The middle of the map doesn't seem to be a volcano to me.

 

[APproject]

I don't think you can create a decent volcano in World Editor. At least the one that you could step on (Terrain). Honestly, those dust looks weird to me too. I should ask owner about that, but I think that's for more effects or so. Not sure, lol.

 

[bounty hunter2]

Here is my rating and comment:

Rating system

Altered Melee:
1 - 10 points go on originality √
1 - 10 points go on terrain √
1 - 10 points go on bug free √
1 - 10 points go on gameplay/fun factor √
1 - 10 points go on lag √
1 - 10 points go on balance √
1 - 10 points go on drops √
1 - 10 points go on Object editor work
1 - 10 points go on proper submission and crediting √
1 - 10 points go on scripting
1 - 10 points go on camera work
1 - 10 points go on music and or voice acting
1 - 10 points go on dialog
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Voting system

Percent	Grade	Status
0 - 34%	1/5	Rejected
35 - 49%	1/5	Reviewed
50 - 64%	2/5	Reviewed
65 - 79%	3/5	Approved
80 - 89%	4/5	Approved
90 - 100%	5/5	Approved

The table may vary if needed.

Originality: 7/10 √
Interesting, making it a coral, the terrain is original and refreshing along with the original idea.

Balance: 2/10 x
Now here are some problems:
- The blue player is distant from the other two
- The extra gold mine north west is too far from red and you can't build the main building near it
- Fountain of health is major advantage of teal
- Blue has least space to build and least trees

Bug Free: 8/10 √
Worked fine, however you can't build a main building next to the northwest gold mine.

Terrain: 6/10 √
Not bad, refreshing, but sometimes you spammed dodads too much:
- Too much skulls

Drops: 5/10 √
Rather use item tables.

Gameplay/Fun Factor: 5/10 √
The terrain makes it fun to play, but there are also some problems:
- Imbalanced
- Creeps set to normal view rather then camp
- Little space to build

Lag: 10/10 √
No lag.

Proper submission and crediting: 5/10 √
You need images.

In overall: 48 / 80
60% minimal 50% met.
For the hive grade: 2/5 I suggest this map for: Pending
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In overall it is a interesting melee that still has issues. It should be fixed before approval.

Good Luck, bounty hunter2
I might not be checking this topic for some time. If you have any questions about the review or you update the map and want me to check it again, feel free to PM me or Visitor message me at any time.

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

what is a fel stalker doing with a revenant and two skeletal orcs :S ?

 

[APproject]

what is a fel stalker doing with a revenant and two skeletal orcs :S ?

Playing chess.

 

[Greeksaga]

APproject +1 and the fel stalker wins

I don't think you can create a decent volcano in World Editor. At least the one that you could step on (Terrain). Honestly, those dust looks weird to me too. I should ask owner about that, but I think that's for more effects or so. Not sure, lol.

1.makin a hill
2.makin a hole in it(without cliffs, just lowering ground)
3.remember elevators?Set their pathing to zero, scale to 0.3
4.now put them in a hill form, using ctrl+pageup.
5.remember stone chunks?Set their pathing to "Mushrooms,River rushes,etc", scale to 1.4
6.now put them in a hill form, using ctrl+pageup.
7.now make a big hole in your stone hill
8.close the hole from units, using pathing blockers
9.about yoyr elevators.Set the "replaseble texture file" to "none"
10.Now nobody can see those elevators
11.create special effects (fire, etc)
Now your units can get on the Volcano!

 

[APproject]

Well thanks for your time here, but since this map is Melee, I cannot use custom descructibles or modificated ones, not even talking about additional triggers that are not allowed at all.

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

I still don't think that they fit together...

 

[Greeksaga]

Theyre dark creatures,thats all.Remember Cityscape!Why Cobolds standin near Wizards? Ask Blizzard!

Oh...Sheet!I just thought you going to update it with a new !Volcano!

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

Well, fel stalkers is NOT in the sunken ruins unit-set... i dunno what it's elseways callled.

 

[Greeksaga]

And whats so?
APproject, i could do an another vers with a new volcano, but now i cant - problems with comp

 

[APproject]

I believe you could give shot. When you'll finish this, send me to e-mail: [email protected] Also PM me that time to quickly check my inbox.

 

[Gamecrafter_DK]

STILL think that it's NOT normal -.- i'll stop subscribing to this thread, PM me if you have an important answer

 

[Greeksaga]

Yuppi!!!
My comp is ok now, start mODIFIN IN 3...2...1... GO

 

[Greeksaga]

well... five minutes...First lacking vers im sendin

 

[APproject]

Thanks for your work here. It looks better, but I do not think that Lava Spawn is a necessity there. Also the strongest hostiles are gone, I think you should reset it nearly the volcano's top.

You should have PM'd me the attachment of map and try to avoid double posting next time.

 

[NagaDudeLord]

Great Map! I edited it myself by adding a playable Naga Race.

 

[Maximum_Evil]

The path to the center of volanco is kinda crappy with the heights + the path is really small, but I love the idea.

 

[deepstrasz]

-Glyph of Fortification? You might want to remove that as it increases HP of buildings. It's not even on all sides. It's in only in the east where the three Dalaran Mutants are, near the Goblin Merchant
-creeps are not symmetrically copied for mirroring places. They're mostly different
-it's not balanced for ladder. Some players can reach neutral buildings faster
-the Tavern doesn't have all the heroes

2.5/5.