Save our Mother Nature

[Footman16]

No. Your plan whilst noble in nature is counter-productive.

Look at what our "pollution" is giving us. Cars were inefficient and consumed fuel leading to an oil shortage; we made electric cars and technology to overcome this short coming.

Our buildings required the destruction of nature. Look at South Korea they are constructing a city that whilst modern and nice looking blends into the land that it is a part of.

One question though if you are in this shack with no modern possessions where did you get the computer? There are no elephants in Belgium they're called cows. Also when you get those magic beans don't throw them out the window or else yo get that door blockage problem and crazy giants in the sky. Why would you need your passport? There has always been war even our oh so benevolent ancestors killed each other en masse. No written language eh that will be a killer when you need to educate your children in your new ways. Why would you need money when you can live off the land? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder my friend.

I guess your post was a troll but I'll entertain the notion.

 

[Radicool]

Global warming is a natural cycle as said the ozone layer can be repaired naturally as well.

Global warming has nothing to do with the ozone layer. Ozone is composed of O3. The ozone was damaged by hydrocrabons (I think). Hydrocarbons were common in spray cans and stuff, all of which was banned years ago. Global warming is the theory that increases in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is causing increased global temperatures.

About nuclear fission being dangerous.....Interesting. Hope it works out.

 

[Footman16]

Fission is dangerous we're talking about Fusion there is a big difference not that fusion isn't but you can't weaponise the reactor. Fission is actually really efficient as well and the waste is very little it is just hippies and Greenpeace who say it is really harmful and bad and produces lots of waste.

 

[Senior Mustard]

I wonder who that is really.

If it draws your suspicion away from me, I'll answer this question with one of these hilarious animated gifs on my righthand side.
As only a very new hiver would use these on the fora.

No. Your plan whilst noble in nature is counter-productive.

Look at what our "pollution" is giving us. Cars were inefficient and consumed fuel leading to an oil shortage; we made electric cars and technology to overcome this short coming.

Our buildings required the destruction of nature. Look at South Korea they are constructing a city that whilst modern and nice looking blends into the land that it is a part of.

One question though if you are in this shack with no modern possessions where did you get the computer? There are no elephants in Belgium they're called cows. Also when you get those magic beans don't throw them out the window or else yo get that door blockage problem and crazy giants in the sky. Why would you need your passport? There has always been war even our oh so benevolent ancestors killed each other en masse. No written language eh that will be a killer when you need to educate your children in your new ways. Why would you need money when you can live off the land? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder my friend.

I guess your post was a troll but I'll entertain the notion.

My post, albeit not very serious, is not a 'troll' post. In fact I wished to point out that the pollution everybody is on about, is caused by our modern comforts. A lot of activists seem to forget that. I don't believe the earth is dying in a very acute way, and I also believe that the state of our planet is taking a turn for the better. I'm quite aware that there are no elephants in Belgium, and I'm also aware that elephants are no small rodents. The point is that the biodiversity here in my country is notably growing, absent the elephants.
I also wish to say that a lot of the people involved in this whole "save the planet" cult are only in it for the money, power, attention. The state of the planet could still be better, but it is not in any way still as alarming as it was 20 years ago. So people should maybe focus on the big picture more, when it comes to nature, and not whine about every detail. Give it some time, and mankind will be able to live here without harming the natural beauty of the planet until the sun devours the planet and our solar system, thanks to the rapid evolution of technology.

I'm not pointing any fingers here, but if you were able to see past the details about the elephants, you maybe would have seen the true content of my post hidden in the pretty shallow metaphors. Teehee, I set up a little trap.

Global warming has nothing to do with the ozone layer. Ozone is composed of O3. The ozone was damaged by hydrocrabons (I think). Hydrocarbons were common in spray cans and stuff, all of which was banned years ago. Global warming in the theory that increases in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is causing increased global temperatures.

About nuclear fission being dangerous.....Interesting. Hope it works out.

Those 'hydrocrabons' are actually Chlorofluorocarbons. Not very to the point, but it's an interesting little fact. These carbons, indeed interfered with the ozone layer and caused several holes in the layer. Because of these holes, we are left exposed to UV radiation, which does some funky stuff to your skin causing cancers and whatnot. That's all, I don't think there is a correlation between UV and global warming. I would also like to add that there are signs that the ozone layer is restoring itself.
Source

 

[Footman16]

There is no problem with our "modern comforts" pollution will sort itself out there is no such thing as GLOBAL WARMING!! There is global warming where our Earth heats up in a cycle but there is no serious disaster on the way not for a little while. Maybe if you hadn't hidden your meaning in the shallow metaphors etc I would've gotten the point. A lot of what you've just said is quite notable but already know, the increasing biodiversity etc.

 

[Dr Super Good]

I get my computer to go to sleep if I am not at it for extended periods of time. I also turn off the distribution plug to the computers when going to sleep.

Despite this effort to save electricity, the energy bill has been going up...

 

[takakenji]

Reading your comment left me physically injured.

then you are very sensitive if a single comment did that

 

[Senior Mustard]

There is no problem with our "modern comforts" pollution will sort itself out there is no such thing as GLOBAL WARMING!! There is global warming where our Earth heats up in a cycle but there is no serious disaster on the way not for a little while. Maybe if you hadn't hidden your meaning in the shallow metaphors etc I would've gotten the point. A lot of what you've just said is quite notable but already know, the increasing biodiversity etc.

Actually, I believe there is a global warming, partially caused by man. I also believe we should put a stop to our contribution to global warming but we have a plenty of time to do so.

And come on, did you really believe I thought I was living with elephants outside my window? Are you seriously going to tell me you didn't get the essence of my first post. It was highly satirical of nature. At least let me have some fun when I post something on the forums.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

I try to fart less. So yeah, i'm Eco-friendly and that stuff.

 

[Footman16]

then you are very sensitive if a single comment did that

It's called sarcasm get used to it as in the modern day and age we use it regularly.

My point is that Global warming is a natural process it doesn't matter how long it takes to fulfil itself but the cycle just keeps repeating. Even if we add to it or not it is merely delaying/speeding up the inevitable until we can actively get rid of the CO².

 

[Wazzz]

It's called sarcasm get used to it as in the modern day and age we use it regularly.

irony

 

[Footman16]

What about it? Your comment has no relevance.

 

[Wazzz]

it's entirely relevant
just because you don't necessarily understand it doesn't mean it doesn't tie in

 

[Footman16]

It has no relevance to global warming saying irony sarcastically.

 

[Wazzz]

it doesn't at a glance, but it does on a deeper level

 

[Footman16]

Considering it was in response to an off-topic conversation I fail to see it. Care to explain?

 

[Wazzz]

the entire forum is off topic, being off topic is the most on topic thing we can do

off the on the topic of global warming, off handedly we can say, with regards to what goes on with the polar ice caps, is that it is rather off topic to the majority of the populationg

people do not think about it. it is not on their mind. quite an off way of thinking. on that note, we aim to make what is off, now on.

through education and means of persuasion complimented with government corruption and bribing the media, we can make global warming appear to be a much greater pandemic than it is in reality. people only deal with extremes, after all. if they don't think it's an immediate threat, they won't care about a future they won't live to see.

so, we make them our puppets. we pull the strings, forcing them to believe they are in immediate danger. it worked for a while, but people have begun to wise up that it's not actually going to happen for a while. however, we still want to make it an on topic conversation. that way, we can invest in a better future, although that future won't occur for potentially millions of years.

it all ties in.

 

[Senior Mustard]

the entire forum is off topic, being off topic is the most on topic thing we can do

off the on the topic of global warming, off handedly we can say, with regards to what goes on with the polar ice caps, is that it is rather off topic to the majority of the populationg

people do not think about it. it is not on their mind. quite an off way of thinking. on that note, we aim to make what is off, now on.

through education and means of persuasion complimented with government corruption and bribing the media, we can make global warming appear to be a much greater pandemic than it is in reality. people only deal with extremes, after all. if they don't think it's an immediate threat, they won't care about a future they won't live to see.

so, we make them our puppets. we pull the strings, forcing them to believe they are in immediate danger. it worked for a while, but people have begun to wise up that it's not actually going to happen for a while. however, we still want to make it an on topic conversation. that way, we can invest in a better future, although that future won't occur for potentially millions of years.

it all ties in.

This post clearly has nothing to do with paranormal activities...
Please stay on-topic.

 

[Tonex]

The sad thing about society is that every time someone uses electricity or starts up their car they are killing polar bears, but they don't even give one shit about it.

 

[Senior Mustard]

Every time you start your car, a polar bear dies. Just like that.

 

[Footman16]

Wrong. They are the causing the sped up global warming that's killing the polar bears and we don't care for a reason. They will survive and we already have them in zoos.

So what mr mustard said.

 

[Tonex]

Normally global warming would not have such a crazy effect on polar bears, as they'd have time to adapt to the increasing temperature and less ice. Thus, what you're saying is analogous to "Well humans already have H2O vapor in their lungs, so if I drown a person, it's perfectly fine because I'm just adding more."Also, you're saying that keeping animals alive in zoos is enough? That's like saying being a slave is just like being a free human.

 

[Footman16]

We're sapient they're not. We're happy with them being in large eco-friendly enclosures they're happy being in large eco-friendly enclosures.

 

[Tonex]

How can you say they're happy living in enclosures? If all we want is just some animals to display, why don't we just kill all of the animals in zoos and replace them with robots?

 

[Footman16]

You don't get that same buzz and feeling of superiority over all life.

Robots aren't the real thing and they couldn't possible replicate the animal behaviour in every way.

 

[Tonex]

You don't have to be superior to feel happiness, that's what one of those stereotypical villains seeking world domination would say. Of course you could simulate an animal, just get it to walk around all day, "eat" at meal times, and sleep at night.

 

[Footman16]

My first sentence was a joke and that isn't what animals do all they day. They also have to reproduce, excrete etc I would love to see you design the robot that does all that.

 

[Tonex]

My first sentence was a joke and that isn't what animals do all they day. They also have to reproduce, excrete etc I would love to see you design the robot that does all that.

...but you don't need to show that in a zoo

 

[Footman16]

Ease of access and that's what a zoo is for.

 

[Tonex]

Ease of access and that's what a zoo is for.

A zoo is for ease of access to watching animals, yes. But in zoos, it's more like just watching animals walk/swim/fly around, how they eat, or how they sleep, and not how they have sex or defecate all over the place.

 

[Footman16]

They still do it though.

 

[Tonex]

But that's beside the point because I was stating that one could use a robot to create a facsimile of of a real animal to display to the public. It could simulate the actions required which include walking around, eating, and sleeping, but not sex or defecating.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Some power saving tips for computers...
In power management of Windows you can set Intel I3/5/7 minimum clock speed. It will impact performance as good as nothing as long as maximum is kept at 100% and will save the odd watt here and there.
You can also set mechanical hard disks to go to sleep after a while of inactivity. This is very good at prolonging drive life and saving power if you are not using it (eg, playing WC3 with all files already in memory) however you will get about a 5 second delay if the drive needs to be woken up.

 

[Nuclear]

But that's beside the point because I was stating that one could use a robot to create a facsimile of of a real animal to display to the public. It could simulate the actions required which include walking around, eating, and sleeping, but not sex or defecating.

I'd love to see the age when it's more cost effective to use a highly advanced robot instead of an animal for that purpose.

 

[Xonok]

I'd love to see the age when it's more cost effective to use a highly advanced robot instead of an animal for that purpose.

The people of the future will laugh at us for not figuring out a good way to do it already. Just like the people of today laugh at medievals who tried to do moving pictures by actually moving things, instead of playing with lights.

 

[Nuclear]

There are limitations that will always exists, such as the materials it requires to manufacture robots like that, and the biggest thing; cost effectiveness. That is, until something comparable to magic is invented, like nanobots. Until that, why bother? Animals are practically very complex, but relatively simple to maintain robots.

 

[Xonok]

There are limitations that will always exists, such as the materials it requires to manufacture robots like that, and the biggest thing; cost effectiveness. That is, until something comparable to magic is invented, like nanobots. Until that, why bother? Animals are practically very complex, but relatively simple to maintain robots.

Yeah, and this is something that us, humans, often fail to realize. Especially when saying that computers are so much better than us because they can do X way faster than us, while failing to realize that humans are not of brute force, while computers are.

 

[Wazzz]

My first sentence was a joke and that isn't what animals do all they day. They also have to reproduce, excrete etc I would love to see you design the robot that does all that.

please stay on topic

 

[Dr Super Good]

Turn off Heating/Air Conditioning in rooms you do not use, this will save energy changing their temperature. =

 

[DivineLight]

Air Conditioner is make your room cold inside, but hot in outside

 

[Dr Super Good]

Air Conditioner is make your room cold inside, but hot in outside

Yes we all know they are heat pumps. The problem is they still use energy and in the case of air conditioning, a lot of energy.

 

[DivineLight]

that's true

 

[Tonex]

Getting vegans to eat cows encourages people to breed more cows. On the other hand, if we all became vegan, people would no longer breed cows, since we don't eat them anymore.

 

[DivineLight]

i don't want to eat cows
but i want the milk

 

[Nuclear]

Don't worry, soon we can make both the milk and the meat in factories.

 

[Dr Super Good]

Let us not forget about the nasty emissions people make! Foods like beans cause global warming.

 

[DivineLight]

Don't worry, soon we can make both the milk and the meat in factories.

ok, good then

Let us not forget about the nasty emissions people make! Foods like beans cause global warming.

how could Foods like beans cause global warming?

 

[supertoinkz]

ok, good then

how could Foods like beans cause global warming?

Farts. Prrrrtttttttttt

 

[Orcnet]

I'm not quite sure if I would just laugh for each comment but really Earth won't die while bands of eco-lovers is still in the way, they won't give up and slowly finding solutions on how we can decrease our daily decisions that leads us to global warming.

Without these guys(Scientist, Investors, Ecologists, Me etc.) Earth will and directly be on the course of annihilation.

 

[DivineLight]

Farts. Prrrrtttttttttt

lol, definitely stink