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So, upon Fladder's encouragement (and my own creeping feelings) I've decided we're going to reenact this group and the subject of the top ten list, but this time around I want a more fluent, discussion oriented and active-like system.
- So we're ditching the numeric judgement system.
Rather, from now on, we simply discuss and state our opinions on any new terrain added to this group for "judgement," basically we discuss and agree upon a picture's placement and value, and then when everyone's spoken their piece of mind I'll make a verdict based on those pieces.
While I value your willingness to get this machinery going, this isn't how we go about it.
Basically, the job of adding the terrains nominated to this group and then inform the other jury members that it or they've been added has been placed on fladdermasken.
But I guess we're still waiting for Gilles to accept the invite to the group, it just happens he told me he won't be able to be active until September.
I guess we could use someone else "meanwhile" or maybe permanently, what say you guys to invite elredir to our humble Jury?
Though, NEWS JUST IN: A certain terrain moderator wants to include the public in this. I, being a man of the people, begrudgingly agreed. So we came to a compromise; we eliminate all the obvious pieces and let a public poll decide the rest (placing and all). I think it's fair in a way, and we could have Pharaoh_ put up a notice for it and make more people aware of our little terrain board.
Well, apparently I'm a complete imbecile, or the option to specify how many votes you can make in a poll is... Rather impossible. We could still run this, though, just we'll either need to have each person vote for only one terrain, or each person able to vote for all.
Oh and for elredir: As fladder said, mostly no.
- Though if you dare eliminate my terrain,
I'd kick your rib-cage in for you to supply me
a damn good reason.
I've had this idea for quite awhile,why don't we make a separate top 10,besides this one,something like the top 10 most popular terrains of the month.
Where people could nominate their own terrains ,or others ,that were made that month and after a week or so of nominations we could make a poll of those terrains where people vote which is their favorite one.
this could bring in new terrainers and motivate less experienced ones to get better,seeing as they have an easier chance at a spotlight.
Well, that is basically how the current top ten list is supposed to work, though due to lack of activity it seems we will currently have to rely on older terrains too to be part of the list.
When I make the poll, I'll state it clearly what our intentions are and entice people to do terraining for that particular cause.
Now, let's do eliminations, remove the weeds as it were. I reckon we could keep it simplest if we all just state our list right here of the few terrains we'd not want to see on the public poll, so I'll go first:
- Megafyr's Lost City.
- L2Love's Citadel.
- L2Love's Bell Tower.
- Gilles' "White?"
- That wow doodad's terrain.
- 12061422025fcb19b4edbeb2cc.
- 1206240657c345b83992850cc5.
- Thedeathhunterxx' Endless World.
- ...
Disclaimer: Yeah, I'm not certain about the origin of some, so that's the cause of the weird naming, at least I know which ones I mean, which basically is all that matters.
For future reference, I'll want you, fladder, to do a slightly better job when uploading the terrains to this group, basically include the name of the owner and the name of the terrain in the description, if that's not too much of a hassle.
Also, I want Johannesr to join the Jury, any objections? (I probably won't heed them, but I can pretend to care.)
What of Oziris' zlatibor? Purge or let it have a shot? Also on the subject of johannesr: Yes, I'd vote in, and no, endless world isn't his work it's thedeathhunterxx's
I guess you misunderstood, the point is to rule out the ones we absolutely don't want to see on the list, that doesn't limit you to only ten terrain any more, seeing as we're going to involve the public in deciding which ten terrains are going to be on the list.
Oh and about Oziris' terrain, I think we should give it a chance.
Okay yeah I wouldn't mind giving it a shot. It's not a bad terrain, I just don't like how the blurry textures make the whole thing look a bit pastelesque.
And not in a good way.
So, my list excluding L2love's bell tower. Any takers?
I'd disagree to that, but then luckily that's not the point of the current discussion, so I won't have to fist fight you and break your fictional face, what we're at here is which terrains to include in the official poll, where the public will decide upon the top ten terrains.
- And at the very least, I say it qualifies to be qualified.
Anyway, I've contacted Pharaoh about sticking the poll to the notice-board, which would help out a lot, we might even get some new terrainers while we're at it. So now I'm just awaiting his response before I make the Poll. So, any last-minute quarrels should commence, or be omitted forever.
Oh yeah I'm going to some indie festival tomorrow. Apparently they allow alcohol on the festival grounds so me and like 20 friends are moving out in quest groups.
So, here's a better overview of the scoring. I've single-handedly decided to give us, mostly because I'm equally surprised by the outcome as you chaps, more power than the poll voters.
And thus the idea is that every one of us can cast from 1-10 points on every terrain, that doesn't mean you are limited to only giving one terrain 10 points, nor does it mean you have to vote on all of em. I've also decided we are not to vote on our own terrains.
If anyone care, these are going to be my criteria for TP5:
10 – Legendary Terrain: This terrain will come to define this era of terraining.
9 – Extraordinary Terrain: This terrain is perfect.
8 – Awesome Terrain: This terrain might have its flaws, but fuck... I like it regardless.
7 – Nice Terrain: This terrain is pretty, but there’s a tad too many flaws for my liking.
6 – Good Terrain: This terrain has heart, but needs some real fixing up.
5 – Alright Terrain: This terrain really needs some fixing up.
4 – Poor Terrain: This terrain is lacking, in all regards.
3 – Bad Terrain: This terrain really just doesn’t look good.
2 – Horrible Terrain: It doesn’t even seem like a fuck has been given.
1 – Uhm... Terrain: Is this even a terrain?
If you feel like following that system. You could also completely disregard it and give 10 points to whatever terrain you want, I'll rearrange things so that only the ten remaining terrains are in the album of this thread and I'll remove all comments from them, so go leave you're votes there.
Next weekend I'll sum together all our votes and post the final result, if you didn't make it to vote, then tough luck. You'll bet a new chance around Christmas.
Oh and about the voting incidence with Azurot and whether or not anyone voted for more than 10 terrains in the official poll, considering it somehow turned into a non-public poll, I say fuck it all and stick with whatever points the terrains got, I'm going to do better on that front for the next poll, I swear!
Yes, I've decided we update this list twice a year, and I'm going to confine it to the vacations that suit me best. That'd be all, gents.
EDIT: I'm actually disregarding my system myself, seeing as I want to vote more in a way that affects the list the way I want it to be, more instead of giving votes that directly correlate with those criteria.
EDIT2: Apparently I can't remove comments, so fuck it, just write your votes like I do and then I'll count em next week(end).
So, it's soon about time we kicked this machinery back into action, even though I dread all the work involved. >.> Considering last time was rather... Messy, in certain ways, I think we should move back to leaving the ultimate choices to us, the Jury members, and let the "community" have no other deciding hand in the matter than to nominate terrains.
I say we go with the system we devised (and derailed from) last time:
1. Eliminations,
where we basically settle on which terrains to eliminate straight away (leaving 10 nominations).
2. Placements,
where we decide which terrain goes where, starting from the top and moving down the ladder.
3. Leave Keiji to handle all the dirty work that follows.
Sounds good, especially the third point.
So possible nominations are the current top10 + everything from the last few months?
And now we wait until people nominate stuff or what?
Yeah, I'll make some sort of official statement in the nomination thread, soon-ish.
First I wanna see if you chaps agree to my opinion about how to go about it.
So possible nominations are the current top10 + everything from the last few months?
Yeah, no, not those. We want a completely fresh list.
And it's more like the past half year's worth of terrains, long as they've not been nominated previously.
And about point three, well, I am the only one able to do the dirty work.
- Unless we can magically procure famouspker and force him into doing it.
Sifting through the terrain board for decent terrains that weren't nominated before, I actually managed to find ten eligible (letting one or two less acceptable slip through) terrains for this. But I would be lying if I said I actually thought all of these were top ten material.
The list IS supposed to be up-to-date in the sense that it'll show off the best terrains done within a certain time-frame, that's basically the point of a "top ten list." In that sense, obviously, not all terrains would always meet the same standards.
We could give it a month or two more, though, before we start accepting nominations.
In the hopes that someone's going to produce something worthwhile during that period.
Ah okay, now that I think about it I like the idea of an up-to-date list a lot more. Don't think that it's a big deal if not every terrain in it is super pretty.
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