Ragnaros Hero Concept

[chopinski]

Check Out the Warcraft Underground Community version as well: Warcraft Underground | Ragnaros Hero Concept

They got a different version of the Ragnaros and Lava Elemental models!!

 

[Aldeia]

well done , and i like the gifs u did.

 

[Devalut]

Lovely detailed description, looks amazing!

 

[doomsdayzone]

The spells are incredible such as charges and Drag & Drop spell cast. I like it take some reference from HOTS too. Especially Would port them to my AOS map. Credits would be given but it was never released. Thanks for the effort. Oh, ya can't wait what you have in store for Mannoroth, The Destructor!

 

[chopinski]

Thx all!

The spells are incredible such as charges and Drag & Drop spell cast. I like it take some reference from HOTS too. Especially Would port them to my AOS map. Credits would be given but it was never released. Thanks for the effort. Oh, ya can't wait what you have in store for Mannoroth, The Destructor!

Use it however you like it , and soon enough Mannoroth will be upon us.

 

[odemmah]

It's nice to see that various people who inspired from other Blizzard games started doing these different and modern lore-based hero thematic spellpacks.

It's like you guys started a new genre in the spells section

 

[Mechanic]

Nice! I will use it in my map.

 

[Kam]

Outstanding work all!

 

[feber13]

excellent skills you should do more

 

[NightKnight]

This is just epic. Will be awesome if you can do more HotS concepts.

 

[tulee]

When I saw all these incredible spell packs, I thought there was a hero-spell contest going on. Turns out people are just making incredible things without needing any encouragement. Fantastic.

 

[AGD]

When I saw all these incredible spell packs, I thought there was a hero-spell contest going on. Turns out people are just making incredible things without needing any encouragement

Haha indeed. I like it.

 

[Tier10Trash]

great work, my only suggestion would be to change the initial flame strike animation on explosive rune since it uses kael's fel fire.

 

[chopinski]

great work, my only suggestion would be to change the initial flame strike animation on explosive rune since it uses kael's fel fire.

I couldn't find any rune models that would fit better than the Kael flame strike one. I think its looking fine.

 

[chopinski]

If your world editor cant open the map because of an Object Data error, here is the Object Data for you to import

 

[MyPad]

A truly scathing entity, Ragnaros makes known his seething hatred for life, from the smolders of leaves to cataclysmic searing flames. The all-burning heat overwhelms even the most ardent foe, as ice shall know vapor, and as snow enters hell.

Ragnaros has quite the arsenal for dispatching his foes, and none shall face his wrath and tell the tale.

Now with that, let's get started on the spells that might have to be addressed.

Explosive Rune

A moderate to heavy AoE burst damage spell, Explosive Rune does sell the inherently combustive nature of the Fire Lord known as Ragnaros. Adding a charge system is a nice touch, too.

However, the charge system operates on a global scale of units, which is questionable, considering the period of time between each iteration. This actually leads to more of an overhead than creating a timer for instance.
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Lava Elemental

I'm not sure if the Lava Elemental being unable to move, if that Lava Elemental was spawned from the ground (not targeted), is intentional. If so, I'd recommend hiding the move ability ('Amov') for the user's sanity.
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Sulfuras Smash

Not much to say here. Indentation is a bit wonky on the following chunk:

            loop
                exitwhen i == j
                    set v = BlzGroupUnitAt(g, i)
                        if DamageFilter(source, v) then
                            if DistanceBetweenCoordinates(x, y, GetUnitX(v), GetUnitY(v)) <= aoe then
                                call UnitDamageTarget(source, v, 2*damage, false, false, ATTACK_TYPE, DAMAGE_TYPE, null)
                                call GroupAddUnit(aux, v)
                            else
                                call UnitDamageTarget(source, v, damage, false, false, ATTACK_TYPE, DAMAGE_TYPE, null)
                            endif
                        endif
                set i = i + 1
            endloop

Considering all points, I would consider the above issues minor, so this bundle is approved.
5/5
Approved

 

[KPC]

Make more hero concept.

 

[chopinski]

Explosive Rune

A moderate to heavy AoE burst damage spell, Explosive Rune does sell the inherently combustive nature of the Fire Lord known as Ragnaros. Adding a charge system is a nice touch, too.

However, the charge system operates on a global scale of units, which is questionable, considering the period of time between each iteration. This actually leads to more of an overhead than creating a timer for instance.

Done.

Lava Elemental

I'm not sure if the Lava Elemental being unable to move, if that Lava Elemental was spawned from the ground (not targeted), is intentional. If so, I'd recommend hiding the move ability ('Amov') for the user's sanity.

The lava elemental not being able to move is intentional but removing the move ability make it so that the elemental cannot rotate towards it's target when attacking, and that do not look good.

Sulfuras Smash

Not much to say here. Indentation is a bit wonky on the following chunk:

Fixed.

 

[Łapin Viktus]

Hello, I want to use the triggers to make it a boss, but there is a spell that doesn't work when I create a new no-heroic unit. This is the "Explosion Rune". The "Conflagrate.mdl" does not appear and does not deal damage.
Thanks for help.

 

[chopinski]

Hello, I want to use the triggers to make it a boss, but there is a spell that doesn't work when I create a new no-heroic unit. This is the "Explosion Rune". The "Conflagrate.mdl" does not appear and does not deal damage.
Thanks for help.

Explosion rune uses the event "A unit learns a skill" to create whats necessary for the spell to have it's charge system and by simply add the ability to your non-heroic unit this event never happens and the spell system never gets activated. One possible solution for you is to make your unit a hero and at the proper moment you add a skill point to the hero and order it learn the skill, this way it might work.

 

[LifeguardLeroy]

The living meteor seems like it would be a satisfying ultimate skillshot. Not sure why when it spawns it moves towards rag and not away. The lava elemental spawn seems like it shouldn't be bigger than rag himself as it dwarfs him in comparison. The hammer toss is hilariously oversized. I see this working more for one of those god maps where dark iron dwarf players will be making sacrifices too rag. Fireshield wasn't present in the version I tested, was it removed or is it being reworked?

 

[Goffterdom]

It is bringing Warcraft 3 hero concepts, RPG maps, boss maps (anything including epic fights with abilities) accessible to the masses (like myself).

There is no denial of how impactful such a release is.

Awesome!

When I saw all these incredible spell packs, I thought there was a hero-spell contest going on. Turns out people are just making incredible things without needing any encouragement. Fantastic.

Same, I was like "okay there's a hero contest going on".

EDIT: Also the GIF for the description should become the norm, it's just awesome to see at a glance what this big boy is looking like.

 

[Astrella]

Major kudos for having such well documented code in your map; it is a great learning opportunity.

 

[Hcay]

I got missing level info error instead, how to solve? I have heard of sth. about MPQ browsers for such errors but any recommendations else

 

[chopinski]

Which version of the editor are you using when trying to open the map? That's usually a compatibility problem if I'm not mistaken. Whoever, you can use the Object Data I attached in the thread and import it to a new map in the editor and copy the codes from this thread in the "Preview Triggers" options. You can also use an MPQ Editor to open the map and extract the models I used.

 

[Hcay]

It's 1.28f. I also installed World Editor Extended Sharpcraft.

If I import strings or import file from import manager in the world editor I still cant open the map for missing level info error. Import all object data gives me another error about not having enough memory to do.

Edit: Import all object data now cause a crash to desktop.

 

[Njord]

I can not get Sulfuras Smash to work with some Player colors. The spell works fine with Player 1 (Red), Player 2 (Blue) etc. but does not work with Player 18 (Peach), Player 23 (Emerald).

Know what the solution is?

 

[boy next door]

If your world editor cant open the map because of an Object Data error, here is the Object Data for you to import

Could you teach me how to import?

 

[chopinski]

@boy next door you can follow this guide on how to import my concepts.

Importing Hero Concepts

 

[boy next door]

@boy next door you can follow this guide on how to import my concepts.

Importing Hero Concepts

thank you

 

[Ricola3D]

Hello ! I absolutely love this one !

I imported it in my map with a few adaptations and it seems to be working fine:

Spoiler: Changes

• I replaced your RegisterPlayerUnitEvent by Magtheridon96 by Bannar's version that seems more up-to-date/optimized ([Snippet] RegisterEvent pack).
• I renamed your Damage Interface's "Damage" struct to "DamageCache" because of a conflict with Bribe's GUI Damage Engine that I use.
• I replaced your Unit Indexer by calls to Bribe's GUI Unit Indexer -> vJass Plugin, since I use his GUI Unit Event System.

 

[chopinski]

Hello ! I absolutely love this one !

I imported it in my map with a few adaptations and it seems to be working fine:

Spoiler: Changes

• I replaced your RegisterPlayerUnitEvent by Magtheridon96 by Bannar's version that seems more up-to-date/optimized ([Snippet] RegisterEvent pack).
• I renamed your Damage Interface's "Damage" struct to "DamageCache" because of a conflict with Bribe's GUI Damage Engine that I use.
• I replaced your Unit Indexer by calls to Bribe's GUI Unit Indexer -> vJass Plugin, since I use his GUI Unit Event System.

thats an issue with the model itself, nothing i can do with code to fix it. You can try to ask someone experienced here in hive to fix it for you or fix it yourself using Magos Model editor

 

[Ricola3D]

thats an issue with the model itself, nothing i can do with code to fix it. You can try to ask someone experienced here in hive to fix it for you or fix it yourself using Magos Model editor

Thanks !

I'm a total newbie who doesn't know Model Editing tools at all, so I think I'll go with it as it is xD

 

[Ricola3D]

Also you should add a little note to recall the downloaders to either set "bones decay time" to 5s or Lava Elemental to "does not decay". Otherwise the death animation keep playing again and again for 88s ^^

It brain-freezed me for 30min wondering why it worked in your map but not in mine, since your import tutorial didn't mention looking at gameplay constants^^

 

[Ricola3D]

@chopinski here I made a basic portrait model for this hero.

I started from your normal model.

I opened it with "W3 Model Editor" to
- Create a basic "Portrait - 1" animation from an existing sequence

Then I opened it with "Retara's Model Studio" to:

• Copy/paste a background plan with player color from this model.
• Removing useless nodes & mesh for the portrait (lower body parts, weapon, hands)
• Creating a "Camera01" for the potrait.

You can add it to your spell map if you want

Also, do you plz know who I should give credits to for the models used in this map? I like giving credits to the model authors & system authors, but in your credit list I don't know who made what

 

[Ricola3D]

Amazing, well documented, active support -> puuuuurfect !

 

[jj84]

If your world editor cant open the map because of an Object Data error, here is the Object Data for you to import

Can you please also export triggers?

 

[KaiZen7th]

How do we properly import Living Meteor spell to another map?

 

[Pyrogasm]

You could look at the triggers and attempt to reason through it?

There's only one trigger called Living Meteor under the Spells folder... so you should probably copy that, right? Then a big trigger folder called Libraries that contains all of the required libraries for all of the spells to function. You can either import all of them and hope that nothing in any of them affects other stuff in your map (which they probably won't) or manually go through the list of requirements for the spell you want and then grab all of those libraries and all the libraries that they themselves require.

library LivingMeteor requires RegisterPlayerUnitEvent, SpellEffectEvent, PluginSpellEffect, Missiles, MouseUtils, TimerUtils, Utilities optional Afterburner

 

[KaiZen7th]

You could look at the triggers and attempt to reason through it?

There's only one trigger called Living Meteor under the Spells folder... so you should probably copy that, right? Then a big trigger folder called Libraries that contains all of the required libraries for all of the spells to function. You can either import all of them and hope that nothing in any of them affects other stuff in your map (which they probably won't) or manually go through the list of requirements for the spell you want and then grab all of those libraries and all the libraries that they themselves require.

library LivingMeteor requires RegisterPlayerUnitEvent, SpellEffectEvent, PluginSpellEffect, Missiles, MouseUtils, TimerUtils, Utilities optional Afterburner

I had done all you suggested B4 I asked (I changed also the Ability's raw code to the appropriate one in my map). But the ability doesn't work in-game in my map: there is casting animation, cooldown and my hero looses his MP but no graphics and no effects.

 

[Pyrogasm]

I cannot tell you anything besides what I typed above because those are the steps. You need to learn how to do this process yourself by following steps and then checking over everything you imported. This is a vitally important skill for you to learn because nobody can toubleshoot in a situation like this unless you upload your map (but please don’t do that; you need to become self-sufficient).

If you have grabbed all of the important code then the ONLY other thing it could be is… configuration. So look through the configuration section and make sure there are no other rawcodes or other things that need to be changed. Maybe there is a dummy unit or another ability or something else that needs to be corrected.

Yelling “I TRIED BUT IT DOESN’T WORK” into the void is not helpful. That gives no information for anyone to go on.

 

[KaiZen7th]

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Yelling “I TRIED BUT IT DOESN’T WORK” into the void is not helpful. That gives no information for anyone to go on.

I didn't yell at all. Where did you get that idea from? I was very normal then, and still am. Why are you so emotional (out of nowhere) this time? Maybe your works are exhausting you.

 

[Pyrogasm]

"Yell into the void" is an English expression. It means to say whatever you're saying into lifeless space where nobody will hear or respond, no matter how loud you might be (like if you give no information, then nobody can help you).

I'm only bothered because you keep asking people to do things for you instead of learning for yourself. Even when told exactly what to do you still didn't do it.