Programmers?

[SanKakU]

Just curious about you guys...who of you have actual jobs doing programming?

Also, would it be realistic do you think to get a job to do programming eventually from learning about programming by doing it as a hobby as like we see being done here with the JASS programming language?

 

[Gilles]

I only know of one. We don't even have many members outside of university.

 

[FreshMobster]

Well obviously it's possible but only up to a certain extent. You could start learning all sorts of different programming languages and in your own findings join a game modding team (most probable and possible). The purpose of this would be to advance further, should it be web-programming, game-engine-programming or anything else. After this you could try forming or joining a small game-making company based of people who came from the mod scene. Not to mention various web-design groups.
Now if you're looking to join some web-design group, you might come in some trouble. While some of them easily accept your personal portfolio work, dismissing any kind of university degree you may or may not have, others are not so keen on it. Also you'd have to have knowledge of not 2 or 4 programming languages, but 7 or even more, especially if you're touching web design and programming sector. While small outside-of-corporate-group work may come in handy in earning money, you might come in trouble in finding and fiddling with customers.
If you have a possibility to join a university or any other high-level teaching institution, it’s advisable to do so (from my own part).
That's all.

 

[Samuraid]

I, for one, am a programmer by profession.

As for learning...JASS is a start, but far from what you would actually be using in most professions. You would do best to study more of the universal languages like C/C++, Java, or C#. Also, if you can take some introductory programming concept classes at school, that will help quite a bit.

 

[SanKakU]

well what would be easier to learn, JASS or C? or is it about the same?

 

[PurplePoot]

Jass, it doesn't even compare. C gives you power and responsibility.

 

[Kwah]

Samaruid. Be ashamed for recommending Java.

 

[Gilles]

Java is the most common language used these days, is it not?

 

[PurplePoot]

It's up there, but recently a lot of small-userbase languages are developing rather than more centralized ones (or so I get the impression).

Tim is just a python fan.

 

[SanKakU]

so JASS easier to learn? that's a bummer, considering I'm far off from mastering it...

 

[The_wand_mirror]

Were doing C# on school, it's pretty hard but that's probably because im not very good at math either.

And everything goes very fast... (the teaching)

 

[Eleandor]

There's a difference between learning a language and mastering it. To learn jass, a month without programming experience. To master jass, I'd say about half a year. To master c++, it's several years, if not a lifetime.

And java is essentially c++ with a garbage collector and built-in multithreading, isn't it?

 

[Pyritie]

And java is essentially c++ with a garbage collector and built-in multithreading, isn't it?

And no structs or typedefs or any of that weird stuff. Everything's an object.

Oh, and no operator overloading, which kinda sucks.

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Personally I prefer java although I'm learning C++ now. As far as I know those are the two most used languages for most programming. If you can learn one of those then you've got a very good start, as many languages are C-based.

 

[Eleandor]

And no structs or typedefs or any of that weird stuff. Everything's an object.

Meh, structs are the same as classes in c++...

Oh, and no operator overloading, which kinda sucks.

Bah, remind me not to use java if I eventually do...

 

[Pyritie]

Bah, remind me not to use java if I eventually do...

The only overloaded operator is + and = for strings. :/

The rest you can do with methods though. It's a minor inconvenience.

 

[Kwah]

Since when is everything an object in Java?

 

[PurplePoot]

bytes, shorts, ints, longs, doubles, floats, booleans, and chars are not objects for performance reasons. Everything else is.

 

[Kwah]

Functions?

 

[Pyritie]

...you get what we mean.

 

[Kwah]

I do not. So hah.

 

[wyrmlord]

Actually, other programming languages (depending on the language) are potentially easier to learn that JASS simply because there are better tutorials available for them. Many of the common programming languages are very similar so by learning one, you will know the majority of the features in many others. Personally, I'd recommend giving Ruby a try. You might even find it easier to learn than JASS due to the tutorials available for it. Here are some tutorials you might want to try:

• try ruby! (in your browser) - an interactive online Ruby prompt. Contains its own tutorial. The advantage of this is that no Ruby installation is required to give it a try.
• why’s (poignant) guide to ruby :: 2. Kon’nichi wa, Ruby - My personal favorite guide to learning Ruby. In addition to teaching Ruby, it's also entertaining.

 

[PurplePoot]

Functions?

You can handle them as objects if you want with java.lang.reflect.Method.

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PS: About wyrm's post - his avatar is a bit of a hint.

 

[TriggerHappy]

Jass started me in the world of programming, mostly because it's fun and you get clear results.

I'm only 14 so I don't have a job as a programmer, and I have a lot to learn as well.

 

[Kwah]

actually, other programming languages (depending on the language) are potentially easier to learn that jass simply because there are better tutorials available for them. Many of the common programming languages are very similar so by learning one, you will know the majority of the features in many others. Personally, i'd recommend giving ruby a try. You might even find it easier to learn than jass due to the tutorials available for it. Here are some tutorials you might want to try:

• try ruby! (in your browser) - an interactive online ruby prompt. Contains its own tutorial. The advantage of this is that no ruby installation is required to give it a try.
• why’s (poignant) guide to ruby :: 2. Kon’nichi wa, ruby - my personal favorite guide to learning ruby. In addition to teaching ruby, it's also entertaining.

bad wyrm. Bad.

 

[wyrmlord]

bad wyrm. Bad.

Like Python is any better.

 

[redmarine]

To be honest C-based scripting languages have always seemed easy and understandable and it is but remembering everything and mastering it is NOT something that will happen over night. Takes a lifetime as someone has already said. With C++ you can virtually do anything, the entire world is in your grasp.

I'm pretty lazy and haven't even tried to learn more than how to operate Console forms in C++.

 

[TriggerHappy]

Stick to C languages if your hoping to program professionally, or at least get hired by some company.

 

[busterkomo]

Actually, other programming languages (depending on the language) are potentially easier to learn that JASS simply because there are better tutorials available for them. Many of the common programming languages are very similar so by learning one, you will know the majority of the features in many others. Personally, I'd recommend giving Ruby a try. You might even find it easier to learn than JASS due to the tutorials available for it. Here are some tutorials you might want to try:

• try ruby! (in your browser) - an interactive online Ruby prompt. Contains its own tutorial. The advantage of this is that no Ruby installation is required to give it a try.
• why’s (poignant) guide to ruby :: 2. Kon’nichi wa, Ruby - My personal favorite guide to learning Ruby. In addition to teaching Ruby, it's also entertaining.

Ruby actually looks pretty cool, I might give a try.

 

[Pyritie]

Stick to C languages if your hoping to program professionally, or at least get hired by some company.

I agree with this, but a language like ruby is more of a fun language than C-based ones are. So C-based for important projects, ruby/etc for fun little things. :>

 

[TriggerHappy]

I agree with this, but a language like ruby is more of a fun language than C-based ones are. So C-based for important projects, ruby/etc for fun little things. :>

Yep, I rarely code in C, well C#, but thats about it.

Ever since I got delphi, i always use it to make interfaces, since it requires no .NET Framework.

 

[SanKakU]

what's ruby for, though?

 

[TriggerHappy]

what's ruby for, though?

Programming..

It's just another language, most languages aren't designed for one specific thing.

 

[Kwah]

First, I feel obliged to say. Python is teh sex. Go learn it. You too wyrm.

But really. C++ is just that awesome.

 

[Deathcom3s]

First, I feel obliged to say. Python is teh sex. Go learn it. You too wyrm.

But really. C++ is just that awesome.

Meh, Python is great, but i wouldn't call it teh sex.

I'm kind of a programmer by profession, i do a lot of freelance work for people.

I usually use C++, as it is the most prevalent language in the world of graphics programming.

I use Python for doing smaller things.

 

[Kwah]

Python scripting in a C(++) framework.

I'm in heaven.

 

[wyrmlord]

First, I feel obliged to say. Python is teh sex. Go learn it. You too wyrm.

You'll have to wait until Haskell stops confusing me and I'm able to learn it. Might take a little while. Even though monads are fairly confusing, I'm enjoying it quite a bit.

 

[Kwah]

I've been hearing tales of your Haskell adventures from Poot.


Enjoy.

 

[Deathcom3s]

I think poot was learning the shakespeare programming language (yes, it does exist).

 

[PurplePoot]

Nah, I was just laughing about it. I did read the (basic) documentation though, and it's classic.

 

[Deathcom3s]

Nah, I was just laughing about it. I did read the (basic) documentation though, and it's classic.

I'll have to read the documentation and actually give it a try.

 

[Ironside]

I am programer too not as job yet but still in the computer school

 

[Deathcom3s]

Are you doing Computer Science as your major?

 

[Ironside]

who me?

 

[redmarine]

who me?

Who else? You're the one who posted in a month old thread.

 

[Deathcom3s]

who me?

Yes you, lol.

 

[Ironside]

Hmm, Computer science? well i don't know the answer anyway :S
I only know that i'm on computer school where we have quite some programing...

 

[Deathcom3s]

Hmm, Computer science? well i don't know the answer anyway :S
I only know that i'm on computer school where we have quite some programing...

Is it a High School or a college/university?

 

[Ironside]

Midle school actually....

 

[Deathcom3s]

Midle school actually....

There's no way it's "real" programming then. Even my High School has a pitiful excuse for a programming class (i basically taught the class because the teacher was an incompetent fool).

 

[Ironside]

In slovenia we have Osnovna šola wich in english means basic school = 9 years, then we have srednja šola = midle school 3 + 2 or 4, then we have visoka šola = high school depends on school 2-4.

We have lots of programing on midle school.