[Picture] Map of Draenor, before the corruption of the orcs. I updated it, because the last one was

[AIagremm]

Map of Draenor, before the corruption of the orcs.
I updated it, because the last one was slightly incomplete.

 

[Wolfe]

You should make the ocean green. According to some references, Draenor had green water. Some simple water tinting might do.

 

[AIagremm]

I have a version with an ocean in my album. I use light green water, since green looks bad.

 

[XxHunterkillerxX]

I'm confused... wheres the Frostwolf Mountains? Can't find Frostwolf Mountains from Wowwiki.com.

 

[AIagremm]

Well, they are theoretical territory, where frost wolves and Frostwolf clan lived.
Plus it is also logical since there are remains of mountains in WoW there, and it would make Nagrand closed from all sides, making it isolated.

Its strange that you arent wondering about Apexis Fields.

 

[Death The Kid]

Are the Apexis Fields the ones from the current (WoW) outland?

 

[Evillizard]

I'm guessing that the apexis fields were raised when draenor blew up?

 

[AIagremm]

Yeap.

 

[Evillizard]

Well... that makes everything much mor clear. Helps a lot.

 

[HailFireer]

To be honest, this looks exactly like outland in shape, its just different color cuz of plants and stuff.

But it is stated that that shape of outland is only a remaining of dreanor, which was round like azeroth or earth.

And did you base this off of some map from warcraft 2. And if you did, Blizzard managed to fuck up lore on yet another place.

 

[AIagremm]

Hail, Draenor is Outland and has retained its shape.

 

[HailFireer]

Dreanor was ripped apart by portals that Ner'zul opened at the end of the second war. What was left is outland, and looks like it.

Dreanor looked completely different.

 

[AIagremm]

Oh really?

 

[HailFireer]

But it stretches out. Its not just that little peace.

There is more land after the map borders, unlike in outland. And also there isn't zangermarsh or other stuff.

 

[AIagremm]

Is there? Notice: On the place of Zangramarsh is some sort of swamp.

 

[HailFireer]

Bonechewers clan region? Its far to the west then zangermarsh is.

 

[nickex]

Looks awesome I didn't know of those islands :O

 

[AIagremm]

Well, one of them was used by Deathwing as his lair during the Invasion of Draenor. The eggs he layed there hatched in the destroyed world and became the nether dragons.

 

[Cenurick_Druidhorn]

Hail, Zangarmarsh couldn't have been created by the pheonomena of Outland, it would have been part of Draenor before it's destruction. Bare in mind that graphical technology was limited during the creation of Warcraft II and that Draenor was only loosely created in terms of lore. Alot was left unanswered.

And Alagreem, a brilliant map, save for one flaw. When Thrall arrives on Kalimdor, he says to Cairne that the land is "Rugged and beautiful, much like the land my people origianally came from". I'd imagine the colouration of the terrain in the modern Hellfire Penninsula would be the lands natural colouring, leading me to believe that the pre-destroyed Peninsula would have an environment reminiscent of Durotar or the Barrens.

 

[AIagremm]

Well I has such thoughts as well, but I understood that he was talking about Nagrand. Barrens resembles Nagrand greatly, especially if you try to make it in WCIII.

However back then he was most likely talking about it WCII version of Draenor.

 

[Cenurick_Druidhorn]

Possibly though Thrall himself never saw Outland at all, he was born on Azeroth. He could've been talking about the pre-destroyed Peninsula from a tale he was told by his clansmen. If you're happy with the grasslands approach then fair enough, I shan't contest it, but personally, I always saw the Peninnsula like the barrens =)

 

[AIagremm]

Nah, its just that it wads mentioned in various sources that it is a grassland.

Yeah, I think Drek'thar told him about that.

 

[dragos98]

Alagremm as Druidhorn said, in wc 2 only a little part of the red world was created there is to much that you or me or another guys can know...as in wc3 some maps in the campaign dont apear...I want to say who know about the cavern of time or about the ungoro crater or about the hinterlands or about the crystalsong forest I want to say that Draenor could be a world to grand than azeroth is....

 

[Hardtime]

Hey, Alagremm why did you close the Fall of Daenor Project?

 

[Hardtime]

What place did Ner'Zhul stay in?

 

[AIagremm]

Well this actually wasnt for FoD and why do you ask it here?

And Ner'zhul lived in Shadowmoon Village, but his main base was Black Temple by the end of the Invasion of Draenor

 

[Alfagar]

DRAENOR IS OUTLAND?? And wasn't draenor the homeworld of orcs, and THEN a refuge of draenei?

 

[AIagremm]

Yea... Draenor is Outland.

It was both.

 

[Hardtime]

Where's Hellfire Peninsula?

 

[AIagremm]

Well gee, I don't know. Maybe it wasn't always a hellish dead smoldering land with a fitting name, but was perhaps... hm... I don't know, a GRASSLAND in the past?

 

[Hardtime]

It was called the red world of Draenor, where's the red?

 

[AIagremm]

Care to read the description?

 

[Hardtime]

Already did and I think there should really be Hellfire Peninsula, but never mind that.

 

[AIagremm]

"Once a lush and verdant land, the Hellfire Peninsula is now a dry, barren wasteland rendered lifeless by the dark practices of orc warlocks"