Draenor

[VeljkoM]

Let me rephrase:
"Where does Illidan get green orcs which he uses to make red ones? Does he kidnap Horde members?

 

[AIagremm]

Actually I've been thinking about that too. Where does he find green orcsi in Outalnd?

 

[VeljkoM]

Maybe he isn't using green ones? Maybe brown work also but that wouldn't be enough.

 

[AIagremm]

Nah, they are good in fighting and hiding

 

[VeljkoM]

That wouldn't work against Broken Draenei because they are elite assassins (I had so much fun when in TFT campaign. I used mostly them to kill orc bases). And there are far to few mud orcs for Illidan to make more fel orcs.

 

[Fussiler1]

Err..
Thrallmar?

 

[AIagremm]

Divine beings of Draenor:

• Old God(Ancient and powerful evil)(Possible power:Shadow)
• Terokk(Most likely a servant or manifestion of the Old God)
• Bird spirits(some sort of spirits who draw powers from one source, possibly Emerald Dream as they are able to access it):
• Raven Spirit(Anzu)(Imprisoned other bird spirits to get all the power for himself. Clearly serves the Old God)
• Hawk Spirit
• Eagle Spirit
• Falcon Spirit
• Cyrukh the Firelord(Seems to be Draenor equivalent of Ragnaros)
  [*]Elemental Spirits
  [*]Nath(Ogre god of war, may be a Gronn)

 

[Amargaard]

Hawk Spirit, Eagle Spirit and Falcon Spirit?

 

[AIagremm]

Yeah, they are four mysetrious bird spirits. Raven took the powers of others and became some sort of god.

 

[Amargaard]

And the raven is the Arrakkoa-God?

 

[AIagremm]

Kind of. But if you are thiking of terokk then no, it isnt him.

 

[Amargaard]

I thought of Terokk :-/

Does the Arrakkoa then have more than one God? Or is it just some Demi God kinda thing?

By the way, where did you learn this from?

 

[AIagremm]

I know stuff
Thats why Im lorekeeper!

Terokk is their godm but he is more of a demigod. Arakkoa also have Anzu(Raven Spirit) and the Old God of Draenor.

 

[Amargaard]

Old God of Draenor? An Old God like the ones on Azeroth?! Does it have a name???

(If not, I guess it's Aaruk-Nashal, or whatever it's called, forgot the exact name... That you accidently brought with you from Outland when you created Draenosh from Outland-parts in "The Daily Peon" ... LOL!)

 

[AIagremm]

Well I based him fully on lore and my assumptions, which are on the page 34 of this thread.

 

[Amargaard]

Oh, cool! I knew it!

 

[Amargaard]

Also Alagremm, thank you for learning me about Oshu'gun in DP, though it wasn't your purpose...! I didn't know that the Oshu'gun was the main Draenei ship that they flied to Draenor from Argus in... That's pretty nice to know!

 

[AIagremm]

They actually visited dozens of different worlds on it and lived in it for 25 000 years until the naaru fell ill and the ship crashed. Later the orcish ancestor spirits came to it to commune with the naaru and draenei left it so it would become the center of orcish culture.

It was awesome with crystals caves and stuff, plus it is the biggest diamond in the known universe. Compared to it Tempest Keep and Exodar suck as hell.

 

[Amargaard]

Wait... Do you say they crashed on Draenor too!?

 

[AIagremm]

Yes, because the naaru fell ill.

 

[Amargaard]

Those Naaru sux then...

 

[VeljkoM]

Well they cheated by using spaceflight and all mighty Xel'naga kicked them.

 

[AIagremm]

Well I think that if you power a crystal mountain and fly it across Twisting Nether for 25 000 years you'll get sick too.

 

[VeljkoM]

Which body part exactly?

 

[AIagremm]

I dont know... its either the light heart or crystals around it.

 

[AIagremm]

Here is the new version of my Old God theory:
He has ruled Draenor, a black stone rock world, engulphed by green fogs. But then the Titans came and imprisoned him, leaving Colossi to safeguard his prison. However his influence soon spread across the now full of life world. He slowly corrupted his guards into flesh, creating gronn and then ogres. Some however evaded this fate. Then he decided to destroy a mighty civilization of arakkoa called Apexis, who threatened his future freedom. He has taken control of their golems and destroyed them with their own tools. The mighty arakkoa civilization fell and he has used his powers to create an avatar of himself called Terokk in arakkoa form to take control of that mighty race, so that it wold never rise again. Soon his influence ran unchecked and he has even succeded to take control of the Emerald Dream of that world corrupting one of its keepers, the Raven Spirit Anzu.

 

[AIagremm]

Soon he has even created a war between the orcs using the Dark Scar Clan. To his anger the Blood River War has been lost because of the Frostwolf clan. Then to his amazement a race of pure Light landed in Draenor bringing his plans close to destruction. But one day he has let the demons to find the world to see the draenei, then he had happily watched the orcs getting corrupted and fighting draenei. His plans were closer to success then ever. The arakkoa even strated to summon him to fight the orcs, but they failed because of Gul'dan. But the land was being corrupted and his grasp over it grew and grew. He even has let the orcs to enter a world with 5 Old Gods, who he planned to free or seek their help to be freed. But then to his great anger he saw the orcs loose the war to beings from another world. He has then created a new plan which he was sure would work.

 

[AIagremm]

He has given the orcs a new idea - portals in hundreds of new worlds, knowing that it would destroy Draenor. As the foolish orcs were opening the portals he was already feeling the power, the oceans and land trembled in chaos feeling his powers and then the wolrd shattered... but not completely. Some parts of it were still alive. Old God of Draenor was still imprisoned.

 

[VeljkoM]

He didn't know. It was unforeseen consequence. And what Old God on Dreanor? That isn't confirmed yet.

 

[Ujimasa Hojo]

Just a thought. Why were Juggernaughts called Ogre Juggernaughts? Were Ogres smart enough to even build such things? Were there any naval battles in Draenor in any part of its history? Another one is what is up with the Ancients in Draenor? I've read somewhere that the Arrakoa were somehow connected to druidism so are Draenor Ancients and Arrakoa buddies?

 

[AIagremm]

Ogre Juggernaughts are called so because they were always built by ogres, because building such a great construction would need their strength, but they did it under command of goblins and orcs.

In Draenor many naval battles took part during the Alliance Invasion, when they fought Deathwing in Devouring Sea and orcs in Shadow Sea.

Arakkoa arent a bit connected to druidism, but arakkoa can create dark spirits and just use magic to control ancients. Ancient were there always, like in Azeroth.

 

[Phoonix]

I'm bringing back up the main discussions so. -Bump-

 

[dragos98]

Alagremm what or who is the old god of draenor?????I know all the pages of wowwiki but i dont hear something like 'the old god of draenor'.

 

[dragos98]

sry Phoonix about -Bump- but i come back and i need to be active on the lore forum sry.

 

[Amargaard]

Dragos98, it is just something Al made up himself because there is a lot of speculations about it in the Warcraft universe and that subject interests him alot

 

[dragos98]

Ok then back to draenor what about the war betwen The grons and the Black dragons....in cata the twilight have ogres and grons....ok the grons are chained...