(ORPG) The Archeron

[Palooo3]

	Palooo3 & Blood Raven presents
	Archeron ORPG Version 1.00C Map Info: The Archeron ORPG is teamplaying based map, contains Player vs Player locations, dungeons & instances, Quests, stories, challangive units and bosses around map. You can choose one of 6 characters, each has different abilities and gameplay technique. Teamwork is key to complete dungeons, or defeat an oponent team in Archeron arena. It is up to you, if you will just walk around and help people, harvest treasure of Archeron, slay strongest enemies or you will be champion of Archeron Aarena! "Esoteric" the land of mystical creatures & its mysterious geographies has long fascinated mankind to roam across different continents to discover its greatness of natures' natural designs. Although this is a land of wonders but monstrous & beastly creatures lies within this great world. Evil lurks within the shadows of the cities as the cult known as the The Iniquitous deceives the innocent eyes as recruits to plan a war & take over the capital city named The Archeron after the death of the first king, Serean Archeron who died in the hands of the cult leader Espvron Warlock. You grew up in a peaceful village named Forestwood at the age of 20 as the capital The Archeron had a call to arms session you were chosen to be a soldier. Features: * Save/Load system * Quests * Unit respawn system * Dungeons * Dungeons have difficult select option * PvP arena * Attachment system * 6 classes * Triggered spells for heroes and units * XP share system Coming soon: * Weather system * Backpack * Class upgrade * Proffesions Classes: * Thief * Shaman * Warrior * Hunter * Priest * Wizard Item Qualities: * Common * World-boss, Elite, rare drops from XPing units * Dungeon bosses, Mark of heroism purchase * Rare dungeons bosses, Heroic, Hard-mode dungeon bosses, Crafted items Screenshots and Videos: Terrain Screenshots Videos Coming soon Change Log: Change Log Version 1.00 Changelog:: * First public release Version 1.00c Changelog:: Since map was rejected, i have decided to make many improvements: * Heroes now have tooltips * All spells now have tooltips * All items have drop descriptions * Many minor bugg fixes * Thief is now selectable * Bounty from units is OFF, now there is triggered one * Now you start with amout of gold * Different Missile arts * Sound sets for heroes changed Balance fixes: * You start with higher Damage * You start with higher HP/Mana amout * Enemies now deal less damage in shorter periodics * Increased mana regen value from inteligence bonus * Mana costs has been decercased * Warrior "Battle Shout" has now decercased duration and increased cooldown * Loads of other minor fixes Version 1.00b Changelog:: Since map was rejected, i have decided to make many improvements: * Added gameinfo to F9 log * Removed my testing units Credits: Special Thanks: * Vengeackekael * Kanadaj * TriggerHappy * Spinnaker * Ultimate terrain map Also thanks to: Credits: Coming soon Author's notes: This is still only Beta version, and i would be very happy if you report me your suggestions, balancing improvment tips and found buggs Link to Map http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/archeron-orpg-1-00c-202425/?prev=status=p&u=Palooo3

Palooo3

 

[Blood Raven]

<Reserved>
I am the terrainer anyway
also, giving ideas, making icons and textures (only if needed)

 

[WaterKnight]

Suggestion for presenting a Rpg/oRpg/Adventure:

Create a slide show of subtitled pictures that show you travelling through the first steps of the game, demonstrating the gameplay, main line, hinting side features only where it is fitting, making your path up to the first boss to finalize in epicness and hooking the player how it continues. As an ending, you can still flash through various additional contents that enhance the scope.

Throwing random systems that one cannot know what they are and how they fit into the game does not help and were stated a thousand times before in other rpg threads. Although this is an epic-styled genre, you tell nothing of the world, why there are heroes, which/why there are enemies, what is the plot, only the standard gameplay mechanics are implied.

edit: My bad, not seen that the story presentation is under development.

 

[Blood Raven]

Read the "story coming soon"

 

[Wolfe]

The terrain looks amazing. But I think you should expand a bit on your classes. Give them some of your own flare.

 

[Palooo3]

The terrain looks amazing. But I think you should expand a bit on your classes. Give them some of your own flare.

Thank you, we do as good as we can , but there are still W.I.P screenshots, without doodads, units, and fog

 

[Bugz]

Good luck

 

[Nestharus]

So.. I know people will hit me for this, but I want to know this so that I know whether or not I'll want to play this map ^)^. What save/load system will you guys be using? I hate long codes, so I don't end up playing maps with codes bigger than they have to be since they end up irritating me ; p.


Otherwise the terrain looks pretty ok and the map appears to have a lot of features =). The rooms in second last screenshot should probably be reworked a bit and some of the stuff in the last screenshot should probably be reworked. Like, on the hill, what's up with the random dead person with a spear through them as well as all of the poles. That just doesn't seem to fit in with the scene at all. The random corpse doesn't seem to fit in either. It looks more like a bandit type hideout given the supplies (like bandits in an abandoned mine). Also, don't you think you might have gone just a little overboard with the crystal?

In screenshot 2, you have 3 styles of buildings. The stone and wood style seem ok, but the brick style seems out of place. Also, I think that you should emphasize wooden stadium seats for the gladiator arena, otherwise it'll seem off with the wooden theater. Ancient cultures used stone seats in its various major structures whereas later civilizations had wooden seats. The civilization you are portraying doesn't look ancient, and this fact is further accentuated by the wooden theater ; ).

The left side of your desert screenshot also looks very bare. In screenshot 3, the way you used arches makes the terrain look contrived rather than natural.

I'm a pretty harsh critic :\

Also, what is Mark of heroism?

 

[Bugz]

Woah, sounds so familiar :/

 

[Blood Raven]

So.. I know people will hit me for this, but I want to know this so that I know whether or not I'll want to play this map ^)^. What save/load system will you guys be using? I hate long codes, so I don't end up playing maps with codes bigger than they have to be since they end up irritating me ; p.


Otherwise the terrain looks pretty ok and the map appears to have a lot of features =). The rooms in second last screenshot should probably be reworked a bit and some of the stuff in the last screenshot should probably be reworked. Like, on the hill, what's up with the random dead person with a spear through them as well as all of the poles. That just doesn't seem to fit in with the scene at all. The random corpse doesn't seem to fit in either. It looks more like a bandit type hideout given the supplies (like bandits in an abandoned mine). Also, don't you think you might have gone just a little overboard with the crystal?

In screenshot 2, you have 3 styles of buildings. The stone and wood style seem ok, but the brick style seems out of place. Also, I think that you should emphasize wooden stadium seats for the gladiator arena, otherwise it'll seem off with the wooden theater. Ancient cultures used stone seats in its various major structures whereas later civilizations had wooden seats. The civilization you are portraying doesn't look ancient, and this fact is further accentuated by the wooden theater ; ).

The left side of your desert screenshot also looks very bare. In screenshot 3, the way you used arches makes the terrain look contrived rather than natural.

I'm a pretty harsh critic :\

Also, what is Mark of heroism?

huh... the desert isn't finished yet, the mines are full of kobolds that are mining the gold and the crystals and killing any human that want to pass.
In the city, there are only 2 types of buildings - stone and wooden. the wooden arena is the PvP arena, where you can challenge your teammate to a duel, and the biggest stone arena is dungeon,
about the castle, this is the second dungeon (the room full of bones) and is a castle of darkness and satan. And no units are placed anywhere and not everywhere the terrain is finished.
well, dont be so quick to give critique for the terrain...

Also, marks of heroism are emblems that are hardly relicived from the most hardest dungeons and challenegs in beta (they take the place of lumber) With them you can buy epic and unique armors and weapons.

 

[Palooo3]

Map is going very well we made tons of quests and world bosses also added some XPing units and items to wear. I will post new screenies and also some ingame screenies

 

[Nestharus]

So concerning my first question

What save/load system? : P


How long will the code sizes be D:


Will it be like FF Epic RPG with massive codes? Or like 20 chars or what? : )



And yea, I know I was pretty critical of terrain etc ;p. What really just didn't seem to fit in the city was the roofs and the layout of theater and arena ;p.


also, what's up with that random dead tree in castle gate screenshot?

 

[Palooo3]

Actually im triggerer so Blood Raven have to answer that question... Well i dont know how long codes will be
But if you are lazy to write code, dont even play map, cause it requies attention and brain for bossfights

EDIT:

Wooden arena is PVP arena
Stone arena is Instance with 4 bosses, one of them is random choosen from 12 bosses.

 

[Nestharus]

But if you are lazy to write code, dont even play map, cause it requies attention and brain for bossfights

Playing is different from writing a long tedious code that could possibly be half of its size depending on the save/load system used ;P. I like intriguing/creative boss fights, monster fights, puzzles, mini games etc. If it's mindless grinding/farming, then that's a whole other issue ;p. 0 gameplay makes for a boring/tedious game =).


And if you only know GUI then I have a feeling that you'll be using Acehart's or CodeGen D:, and at that point we can be talking about 60 char codes instead of 30 char codes /sad face.



Anyways, good luck with your map I suppose

edit

Wooden arena is PVP arena

That wasn't the point. I was talking about how the city looked in relation to arena/stone arena ;p


Also, it doesn't make sense to have a wooden arena and a stone arena ; ). Typically, the base of an arena is stone ;p. I just assumed that it was a theater because it was wooden ^)^.

Maybe I'm just being too critical heh. It's a wc3 map after all, can't expect the same quality as like a top RPG or MMORPG :\.

 

[Palooo3]

Thread updated, added changelog, screenshots and game in numbers

 

[Nestharus]

Fix your typos in last screenshot ; )


I also think for quests that you should have a bar in a multiboard at the top right of the screen that shows quest progress. It slows turns from red to green (red being 0% and green being 100%). On this multiboard, you could see bars for progress of all of your active quests.

Now on to the bandit camp terrain. It doesn't look all that bad ;o. I am sad that I don't have any super critical things to say about it : (.

 

[Palooo3]

Fix your typos in last screenshot ; )


I also think for quests that you should have a bar in a multiboard at the top right of the screen that shows quest progress. It slows turns from red to green (red being 0% and green being 100%). On this multiboard, you could see bars for progress of all of your active quests.

Now on to the bandit camp terrain. It doesn't look all that bad ;o. I am sad that I don't have any super critical things to say about it : (.

Haha thank you, will fix the "typos"
Well i can make only basic quest since in our project is no real triggerer we only searching for some
Actually Vengneacekael and Spinnaker help us a bit but still :/

 

[WaterKnight]

So when the story coming that seams everything neatly together? And cannot believe Nestharus's advertising Yeah, of course, the first thing when looking into a RPG is how long the save code will be, which makes up 0.25% of gametime/adds nothing to gameplay. Don't say to make it annoying uncomfortable but the choice of save system can be performed afterwards.

 

[Palooo3]

Save/Load codes are only like 12 letter long.
I will add story, update thread screenshots today.
Also, we are releasing beta soon no more than week

 

[Nestharus]

Ah, but that's 6 chars vs 12 : P


anyways, w/e ; )

 

[Palooo3]

Ah, but that's 6 chars vs 12 : P


anyways, w/e ; )

I personally write codes 1 minute, maybe less

Thread updated, added final screenshots of beta terrain
Today ill post here story and system, quest screenshots for sure too

 

[Kanadaj]

I hope beta woN't be delayed

 

[Nestharus]

Terrain is much better

 

[HOooDy]

I Like the Terrain !

 

[Kaiba]

Awesome work, I hope you will release beta map soon

p/s : No matter how long the code is , use this dudes

http://theblackroad.net/gamecapture/

 

[Blood Raven]

the code is very short, wich i like too
it is, because we dont have to save spells and other bags (eh, we have one other bag...)

 

[Palooo3]

Yes BETA will be released soon but we steel need few more spell witch i dont know to make .
Maybe 3-4 days

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

So far the map looks good. But Blood Raven, you forgot something. Add sky to the terrain. black sky is ugly. Fog would also do.

 

[Palooo3]

Well weather effects, fog and such things will be randomly spawned by triggers. Ofc it wont rain in desert.

And also added some ingame screens if you want to check.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Also when doing screenshots you do Lock to Game View Camera or V. It makes it better. Also you need to add skies since the screenshots would look better.

 

[Blood Raven]

Drunken Jackal, there IS sky, but when Palooo3 taked the screenies, he forgot the click "V"

 

[Palooo3]

Lol yeah, i forgot to click V im trollass...
Anyway map going fine, added some ingame screenies. Tomorrow or day after tomorrow we releasing beta

 

[Amargaard]

BR, you are part of a project? Kewl!

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Lol yeah, i forgot to click V im trollass...
Anyway map going fine, added some ingame screenies. Tomorrow or day after tomorrow we releasing beta

Haha fail!

 

[Palooo3]

Anyway map going great we releasing so soon

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

What date? This month?

 

[Palooo3]

Tomorrow probably, depends if someone can convert image to loading screen
Currently finishing all items, dungeon resest and last bossfight fixes, than we release.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

You need it in targa or .tga format?
If yes, I can do it. Just attach it here.

 

[Palooo3]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/requests-341/need-loading-screen-come-here-106641/index240.html

Page 240, blood raven posted image.
Well it is preferabbly to be melee-like loading screen (shows witch players are in load)
but if you cant make it, it is enought to be normal.
I dont know what is tga or targa formant
just to make it readable and as low file size as possible. Something between good quality and low filesize you know.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

So this?
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/1987566-post3597.html
Ill do it when I get home.

 

[Palooo3]

Yes excatly that
Thank you

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Here it is. Attached.

 

[Palooo3]

Thank you
I hope it will work going test

Edited:
Hmm i imported and how can i make it working? Never done loading screen before

 

[Luorax]

That won't work DJ The converter you used failed (I guess you used WC3Viewer), the size of both BLP's are 0 bytes.

 

[Drunken_Jackal]

Oops. I used W3Viewer. Ill just use my War3ModelEditor

 

[Palooo3]

So what now?

 

[Kanadaj]

Palooo3, how close are you to release?

 

[Palooo3]

epic close, but last two days havent done much.. need few spells more.
i started to be lazy
maybe if i will work hard it should be to end of month
lazy, lazy.. :/

 

[Palooo3]

Map has been released!
Check the first page for link

 

[Amargaard]

Eh it says "not available" O.O