Northrend Bound v1.85

[Ardenaso]

Hi there again! I went a little ahead and after some testing, I applied some of the changes I listed above on the map I play myself. If you guys allow me, I would like to share here, in case anyone else find it interesting.

@Wark , please feel free to add these changes to the next official update release of the map if you want. (I would appreciate receiving a little credit for my contribution (as Inseerlink) if that is the case ^^)

Balance updates applied:

Main Changes:

Agility Heroes are now a thing!
- Agility stats grant spell resistance (just as Int stats);
- Agility stats grant attackspeed once again (o.o1 per level);
- Starting Heroes get 1.2 bonus Stat of Int, Str and Agi every 10 levels; different races have different distribution (for example, Orcs get 1.6 Str, 1.2 Agi and 0.8 Int); Total of 18 Distributed Points of Stats at max level (6 of each) (Affects only main heroes/founders);
- Agility and Int grant their evasion/resistance in a manner that always add effective 2% of hero max hp as health against physical/spell attacks per Stat point.

Chemistry is now a thing!
- Removed the water and empty vial requirements from alchemy and cook recipes;
- Increased the number of alchemy solutions by 3 for each brew, and reduced their price accordingly (times 3);
- Greatly reduced the cooldown from cooking and alchemy recipes (removed);
- Changed Alchemy recipe requirements from Medicinal Powder to Ginseng;
- Made the total of Cooked goods and Alchemy solutions worth a total of 10% more gold than the goods original price;
- Applied the bonus local money from sold items from Cooked goods and Alchemy solution goods to NORTH market (all worth 50% of total buy price);
- The South Market (isle city) no longer get bonuses from alchemical solutions;
- Improved the "Baker Terbakar" perk to equally affect recipes that reward multiple items (more items per cook and brew);
- Bombs no longer need strings;
- Molotov coctail no longer needs sulfur;
- Changed texts to reflect the changes applied to alchemy recipes.

Farming, using the land better:
- Weath and Corn seeds max market stack from 6 to 12, resplenish time from 15 to 5.

Version 1.85a - Hotfix
- Updated text to reflect that cooked and alchemical goods now apply their bonus price only at the North;
- Agility and Inteligence info panel now shows information properly.

Version 1.85b - Who Buffed the Buff?
- Seeds now are purchased in packs of 5 (price of pack of seeds adjusted proportionally);- Water from the well resplenish time from 30s to 5s;
- Removed Meat from North Market and added it to East Market;
- Removed Medicinal Powder bonus price to South and East Market;
- Added Medicinal Powder bonus price to NORTH Market;
- Removed Medicinal Powder from North Market.

To do list:
- Remove coal requirement from melting ingots recipes (add cost of coal instead, maybe?);
- Add something funny to do with coal;
- Add some other 2 goods to North Market that matches its abundance (or leave it like this for balance sake because North Market is now already the center of commerce anyway);
- Increase the number of wells one can make and rebalance the resplenish time of water after some testing;
- Increase the time it takes for crops to grow;
- Add a small price bonus from all goods to all Markets (something like 12,5% of buy price when it is not the main Market);
- Buff Hunt - Improve the number and respawn of animals, and add a totally new dedicated gear to hunters that can be unlocked via perk.


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I appreciate any positive feedback (or negative, if that is the case);
I am new to the forums, so if I am violating any rules with this post, please let me know! I would be mostly glad to correct myself; thanks in advance!

wait you made these changes yourself? that's sweet! I had suggestions for this map before if you don't mind I'd like you to hear it

 

[Inseer]

wait you made these changes yourself? that's sweet! I had suggestions for this map before if you don't mind I'd like you to hear it

Yes, myself!
*giggles in proud ammateur noob pseudoprogrammer language*

Oh, that would be great, of course I would love to listen! ^^
Let me see them

(I actually do have plans to implement a "political" victory condition... just keeping the details in a little secret hehehe)

 

[deepstrasz]

Hi there again! I went a little ahead and after some testing, I applied some of the changes I listed above on the map I play myself. If you guys allow me, I would like to share here, in case anyone else find it interesting.

@Wark you OK with this?

 

[tulee]

those are nice suggestions but if I'm not mistaken this map is kinda open source now so you may as well make your own edition of this map

"Open source" does not mean someone can make a few edits and then have their own edition approved. I am pretty sure the changes must be extremely significant.

 

[cleavinghammer]

Yeah, changed mine so heroes gain stats on levels and you can have three heroes, but very much not worth uploading.

Compare, well, this map to Founders of the North.

 

[Ardenaso]

"Open source" does not mean someone can make a few edits and then have their own edition approved. I am pretty sure the changes must be extremely significant.

I see, my mistake on my part. Apologies to Wark.
But yeah, would be nice if he gives him the green light for some updates

 

[DarkLlama]

One of my students inspired me today.
I may try to update this once more, and help people wanting to translate the game.
For those who are curious, this is still an open source project.

I wonder how this will work with the new world editor...

I've introduced many people to this map and we can't wait to see the next update!

One thing that needs attention are the desyncs. It appears the gun ability AOE Grenade causes the game to crash.

EDIT: My friend Djinny updated this map, removed some bugs (Especially the one that crashes the game) updated description texts that were out of place.

Based off the above post's MyNorthrendBound V1.85b

 

[Darkfish]

Has anyone taken a look at the triggers? I can't seem to find a way to configure the initialization to apply to the rest of the unused slots no matter how much I finagle around it.

 

[Wselfwulf]

Has anyone taken a look at the triggers? I can't seem to find a way to configure the initialization to apply to the rest of the unused slots no matter how much I finagle around it.

Can you elaborate on what you are trying to do?

 

[Wark]

@Wark you OK with this?

Yea, this is open source. I've been very busy with real life, and moved to another country.
Feel free to update this and keep it going!

I tried changing it to Reforged myself, but it just gave me too much of a headache between real life stuff ><
The biggest problem I had with this was figuring out how to detect a Reforged game client and change player 13 to neutral passive.

 

[qq1587458539]

Hello here is the player in Asian,

We are asking you for the right of translating the map, since we have waiting the final version of the map, which isn't developed since 3 years after your latest version is uploaded
We remaked FotN as well in our own way and the players require a new remake of FotN with chinese localization
Would glad if we can receive your answer through [email protected]/[email protected] or straight through the hive

and hope you have a nice day

 

[Ardenaso]

Hello here is the player in Asian,

We are asking you for the right of translating the map, since we have waiting the final version of the map, which isn't developed since 3 years after your latest version is uploaded
We remaked FotN as well in our own way and the players require a new remake of FotN with chinese localization
Would glad if we can receive your answer through [email protected]/[email protected] or straight through the hive

and hope you have a nice day

I believe someone took the initiative to make changes himself on the previous pages

 

[Ardenaso]

I saw an update on epicwar, is it legit?

Hi there again! I went a little ahead and after some testing, I applied some of the changes I listed above on the map I play myself. If you guys allow me, I would like to share here, in case anyone else find it interesting.

@Wark , please feel free to add these changes to the next official update release of the map if you want. (I would appreciate receiving a little credit for my contribution (as Inseerlink) if that is the case ^^)

Balance updates applied:

Main Changes:

Agility Heroes are now a thing!
- Agility stats grant spell resistance (just as Int stats);
- Agility stats grant attackspeed once again (o.o1 per level);
- Starting Heroes get 1.2 bonus Stat of Int, Str and Agi every 10 levels; different races have different distribution (for example, Orcs get 1.6 Str, 1.2 Agi and 0.8 Int); Total of 18 Distributed Points of Stats at max level (6 of each) (Affects only main heroes/founders);
- Agility and Int grant their evasion/resistance in a manner that always add effective 2% of hero max hp as health against physical/spell attacks per Stat point.

Chemistry is now a thing!
- Removed the water and empty vial requirements from alchemy and cook recipes;
- Increased the number of alchemy solutions by 3 for each brew, and reduced their price accordingly (times 3);
- Greatly reduced the cooldown from cooking and alchemy recipes (removed);
- Changed Alchemy recipe requirements from Medicinal Powder to Ginseng;
- Made the total of Cooked goods and Alchemy solutions worth a total of 10% more gold than the goods original price;
- Applied the bonus local money from sold items from Cooked goods and Alchemy solution goods to NORTH market (all worth 50% of total buy price);
- The South Market (isle city) no longer get bonuses from alchemical solutions;
- Improved the "Baker Terbakar" perk to equally affect recipes that reward multiple items (more items per cook and brew);
- Bombs no longer need strings;
- Molotov coctail no longer needs sulfur;
- Changed texts to reflect the changes applied to alchemy recipes.

Farming, using the land better:
- Weath and Corn seeds max market stack from 6 to 12, resplenish time from 15 to 5.

Version 1.85a - Hotfix
- Updated text to reflect that cooked and alchemical goods now apply their bonus price only at the North;
- Agility and Inteligence info panel now shows information properly.

Version 1.85b - Who Buffed the Buff?
- Seeds now are purchased in packs of 5 (price of pack of seeds adjusted proportionally);- Water from the well resplenish time from 30s to 5s;
- Removed Meat from North Market and added it to East Market;
- Removed Medicinal Powder bonus price to South and East Market;
- Added Medicinal Powder bonus price to NORTH Market;
- Removed Medicinal Powder from North Market.

To do list:
- Remove coal requirement from melting ingots recipes (add cost of coal instead, maybe?);
- Add something funny to do with coal;
- Add some other 2 goods to North Market that matches its abundance (or leave it like this for balance sake because North Market is now already the center of commerce anyway);
- Increase the number of wells one can make and rebalance the resplenish time of water after some testing;
- Increase the time it takes for crops to grow;
- Add a small price bonus from all goods to all Markets (something like 12,5% of buy price when it is not the main Market);
- Buff Hunt - Improve the number and respawn of animals, and add a totally new dedicated gear to hunters that can be unlocked via perk.


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I appreciate any positive feedback (or negative, if that is the case);
I am new to the forums, so if I am violating any rules with this post, please let me know! I would be mostly glad to correct myself; thanks in advance!

I've introduced many people to this map and we can't wait to see the next update!

One thing that needs attention are the desyncs. It appears the gun ability AOE Grenade causes the game to crash.

EDIT: My friend Djinny updated this map, removed some bugs (Especially the one that crashes the game) updated description texts that were out of place.

Based off the above post's MyNorthrendBound V1.85b

btw are these compatible for latest WC3 patch?

 

[Wselfwulf]

I saw an update on epicwar, is it legit?

Provide a link and I could check,
but I would assume not.

It could also be a community-created version.

 

[Ardenaso]

this one here is december 2019: Northrend Bound v1.85b - Warcraft 3 Maps - Epic War.com

this one here is february 2021: Northrend Bound v1.80 - Warcraft 3 Maps - Epic War.com

 

[Muchomurka]

Hello everybody.

This is the best map ever what i have been played at w3. I also used to play founders of the North and it should be cool if somebody can help me to add to this northrend bound same mechanics from northrend. For example weddings and wifes, Quiz, Guilds and calamities.

I and one my friend fixed the bug with Chaos and Dark creeps which were friendly with players - At evening i am going to upload this fixed 1.86C version here at hive.

Is here somebody who loves this map also and who are working at it also please? Let me know if this map still live.

Thanks a lot for the best work, greetings all and sorry for my weak english xD

 

[Ardenaso]

Hello everybody.

This is the best map ever what i have been played at w3. I also used to play founders of the North and it should be cool if somebody can help me to add to this northrend bound same mechanics from northrend. For example weddings and wifes, Quiz, Guilds and calamities.

I and one my friend fixed the bug with Chaos and Dark creeps which were friendly with players - At evening i am going to upload this fixed 1.86C version here at hive.

Is here somebody who loves this map also and who are working at it also please? Let me know if this map still live.

Thanks a lot for the best work, greetings all and sorry for my weak english xD

looking forward for the bug fix

 

[Muchomurka]

těším se na opravu chyby

Muchomurka#7035 my discord. Add me as friend. Or everybody who love this map also. Fixed version will be uploadet about 1 hour later from now. im just going from work

 

[Muchomurka]

Hello there again.

As i promised this is fixed 1.85C version where was a bug with Dark Chaos creeps whose were allies with players.
At next version i will try to add more players slots and i am loking forward to add some mechanics from Founders of the North.

 

[Ardenaso]

Muchomurka#7035 my discord. Add me as friend. Or everybody who love this map also. Fixed version will be uploadet about 1 hour later from now. im just going from work

alright! I'm usually more active in the CSW/Re-Reforged/Warhaven/Retera discord servers

 

[Ardenaso]

Hello there again.

As i promised this is fixed 1.85C version where was a bug with Dark Chaos creeps whose were allies with players.
At next version i will try to add more players slots and i am loking forward to add some mechanics from Founders of the North.

to be honest I kinda am not a fan with the landbridges on the southwestern sea like I can no longer hide there against 7 Insane AIs lol

 

[Wselfwulf]

this one here is december 2019: Northrend Bound v1.85b - Warcraft 3 Maps - Epic War.com

this one here is february 2021: Northrend Bound v1.80 - Warcraft 3 Maps - Epic War.com

Both of these aren't official versions but there's nothing sketchy in them.
I hope that clears some things up

 

[Ardenaso]

Both of these aren't official versions but there's nothing sketchy in them.
I hope that clears some things up

Ah, Wark just gave the green light for editions few months ago

 

[Muchomurka]

Ah, Wark just gave the green light for editions few months ago

That is why im looking for somebody who is also working at new patches.

I never do anything without green from official autor.

 

[frosterz]

Pardon for asking, I currently trying to solve treasure map 2, which sounds like "In the ocean on top of a hump, I sit and wait beside a stump". Does anyone where that might be? Because I have dug every stump I found on the ocean and still can't detect the next clue.

 

[Ardenaso]

Pardon for asking, I currently trying to solve treasure map 2, which sounds like "In the ocean on top of a hump, I sit and wait beside a stump". Does anyone where that might be? Because I have dug every stump I found on the ocean and still can't detect the next clue.

it's the peak of the large southwestern island that is buildiable for base

 

[frosterz]

it's the peak of the large southwestern island that is buildiable for base

Thank you, kind sir. But now I am stuck at treasure map 5, "In the farthest reaches of the north I go, watching the fish swim to and fro!". Did you also know where it is ?

 

[Ardenaso]

Thank you, kind sir. But now I am stuck at treasure map 5, "In the farthest reaches of the north I go, watching the fish swim to and fro!". Did you also know where it is ?

I believe it's around the top-left-most; just try around those waters in the area near the demon gate

the last one is easy to find; however prepare yourself for a tough fight as the Undead Pirate dungeon is really hard

 

[frosterz]

Thank you, sir. I just finished the quest. Yup the boss sure is hard, thank god the loot is awesome tho. Mind if I ask one more thing, have you done the message on the bottle thing found on the entrance of the sea dungeon, that we have to find the prodigy son of the chansellor? Do you know how's he look like?

 

[Ardenaso]

Thank you, sir. I just finished the quest. Yup the boss sure is hard, thank god the loot is awesome tho. Mind if I ask one more thing, have you done the message on the bottle thing found on the entrance of the sea dungeon, that we have to find the prodigy son of the chansellor? Do you know how's he look like?

you can't that's just a lore tidbit

basically, the lore there is

Spoiler

Some Pirates kidnap the Chancellor's son for ransom but the Ancient Hydra suddenly emerges and wipes out the entire crew including the son and the Pirates become ghosts and in rage the Chancellor became mad; Chancellor and Ancient Hydra are among the summonable bosses for 1000(?) lumber and the Pirates are one of the four dungeons

 

[Wark]

People are still talking about my map.
I am thinking about getting back into it, but I left it open source since things got hard between Reforged and the pandemic.
I may just start a new project

 

[Ardenaso]

People are still talking about my map.
I am thinking about getting back into it, but I left it open source since things got hard between Reforged and the pandemic.
I may just start a new project

this is like the best LOAP map I've played so I still enjoy it

 

[Fiskarfred]

People are still talking about my map.
I am thinking about getting back into it

Wark, I was one of the first players in the FOTN community when it was being created and it was my favorite map in all of WC3 (and I have played a lot of WC3). That is, until this map came out.

Northrend Bound is the best game on WC3. It is balanced, adaptive and has immense replay value. Continuing with updates and adapting to Reforged could be what is needed to revive this game again!

If you decide to continue developing, I'd love to be a part of testing if needed. Regardless, thank you for all that you have done.

All the best man!

 

[Azshandris]

I really love this map, been playing it for days. but I still don't know how to get those murloc effigies to unlock naga.

 

[Ardenaso]

I really love this map, been playing it for days. but I still don't know how to get those murloc effigies to unlock naga.

just keep on fishing and there will be chances for a murloc to spawn and they drop the effigies

 

[Wark]

Wark, I was one of the first players in the FOTN community when it was being created and it was my favorite map in all of WC3 (and I have played a lot of WC3). That is, until this map came out.

Northrend Bound is the best game on WC3. It is balanced, adaptive and has immense replay value. Continuing with updates and adapting to Reforged could be what is needed to revive this game again!

If you decide to continue developing, I'd love to be a part of testing if needed. Regardless, thank you for all that you have done.

All the best man!

Unfortunately it's been years since I worked on this, and between the versions of WC3 out now I don't even know where to begin to repair the bugs this got from that. I remember checking in a while back, and some other person mentioned they'd take try to figure out how to tweak things for the most recent version of WC3.

 

[Ctrekoz]

Hello, love the map a lot, was playing 1.60 before, will try the new one! But my game can't see open source versions, like 1.85b, 1.86c, but sees 1.85 perfectly fine - any help? Both on WC3 1.26 and 1.30, all maps are in the same folder. I want to play the best version available.

P.S. Those of you who played FotN - have you had an infinite town npc bug? I have more info in FotN map thread.

 

[cleavinghammer]

I think it works on 1.31.

 

[Ctrekoz]

I think it works on 1.31.

Doesn't for me.

 

[Ravager16829]

Hello, love the map a lot, was playing 1.60 before, will try the new one! But my game can't see open source versions, like 1.85b, 1.86c, but sees 1.85 perfectly fine - any help? Both on WC3 1.26 and 1.30, all maps are in the same folder. I want to play the best version available.

P.S. Those of you who played FotN - have you had an infinite town npc bug? I have more info in FotN map thread.

Doesn't for me.

Please read the "Recommended Version" section as @deepstrasz suggested before downloading the map. This map only works on 1.30-1.31.

 

[Ctrekoz]

Please read the "Recommended Version" section as @deepstrasz suggested before downloading the map. This map only works on 1.30-1.31.

As I've said it works with 1.85, but game simply can't see 1.85b and 1.85c files. I have 1.26, 1.30 and 1.31.

 

[Wselfwulf]

Since I've found some free time after a few years, I might pick this up again and see if I can fix the major crashes in 1.85.

 

[Azshandris]

Sentries and panthers each use up 2 spaces separately on boats while huntresses use only 1

 

[Fored]

Anyone know if this works with 1.28.5? Or what the last version of this map is that worked with 1.28.5?

 

[Ravager16829]

Anyone know if this works with 1.28.5? Or what the last version of this map is that worked with 1.28.5?

You should read the "Recommended Version" first before downloading the map.
This map requires 1.30, which means you're going to need 1.30.4.

 

[cleavinghammer]

^^ Epicwar has some previous versions, but it doesn't mention which WC3 version they're for.

 

[Ardenaso]

I made this concept that also adds Darkspear Trolls, High Elves, and Blood Elves as playable characters, unique Bandit paths, and an additional evil villanous path:

HD LOAP (based on Northrend Bound)

www.hiveworkshop.com

People are still talking about my map.
I am thinking about getting back into it, but I left it open source since things got hard between Reforged and the pandemic.
I may just start a new project

WTii just recently played @Inseer 's fan edit of your map

 

[The Grey]

It's great to see that we are still getting new RPG maps, well done.

 

[GONZALORD]

Hello there, i just finished playing or more like "Game Crashed" while playing with other ppl on the battle.net.

-it seems like i Crashed the game, by using the Rifle (900g weapon from weapon stand) skill that makes a big explosion over an area, i used it against an enemy bear with another player who was hitting the big bear too (an ally), it hit the bear, the player and some trees, idk what happend, but all 8 players, crashed, not a single one was spared, the game stopped working for EVERYONE, just came by to inform, so it never happens to anyone again...

Hope to see a new update with bug fixes on this FOTN Remastered, soon!


Edit: it was on latest version of WC3 since we were all random people and friend from battle.net
Edit: added image after playing a second time and trying to use the same rifle gun skill, it kills the whole game even if targeted at nothing*

 

[Airimo]

Hey, we are currently trying to tune the map and remove the crashes. Feel free to join us on discord:

Join the NB PICKUPS || WC3 Discord Server!

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Crash you posted was one of the older versions, currently explosion shot is not used, but its on the list to be fixed.