Naga Projects

[VeljkoM]

Welcome to Naga fans. By joining this group you swore to kill and/ or torture all night elves.

I can't wait to see it.

 

[GrandApothecary]

Im actually working on a Naga map projects its based off the one Goron2222 did, same map but converted to sunken ruins and same triggers(almost the same) but other then that almost everything is mine(save the imported stuff)
But I finished up the Techtree and I made it like a real race!
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For anyone interested im going to release it soon!

 

[varsaigen]

whats it called?

 

[Chaos.]

Cool, give us a link when it's up.

 

[GrandApothecary]

Its actually called (5)Terror of the Tides
Mainly because its a melee map, basically Goron2222 used another melee map, I used the same melee map but converted it to Sunken Ruins because the map fitted naga well, but not the enviroment.

I'll post up some screenshots soon!
Maybe tommorow!

 

[GrandApothecary]

Ok i'll bite heres two screenies there not that good, but I had to ask a question and hopefully ill get an answer soon

How do you get disbtn's to work? Cause there not automatically working for my hero/abilities(some of them) =[

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r278/Darkchris76/NagaBeta.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r278/Darkchris76/NagaBeta1.jpg

P.S: Sorry for double post, dont know if you have rules around here on it

 

[varsaigen]

is it possible that you could use the Naga Lords? :3 (Misha's and/or mine? Mine is more towards the WoW image, while Misha's is more beastile :/ Sadly... mine gets looked at but never used D:

 

[Silverfish423]

the units are not even close to being balanced. i have not even gotten to that yet. LOL, you went underground didnt you?? haha. well, gotta tell ya....the reason that there are a lot of units there is because after 10 minutes of gameplay, anub'arak can become similar to a living nerubian again and gain control of nerubians. so, he will need a lot of units to withstand the wrath of the lich king the moment he betrays (if he does)

Edit: Ya, i fixed the fact that the naga attack their own buildings. well, there are gold mines there that they attack, but those are supposed to be like CPs, but they are placeholders really because i do not have the trigger which gives player control and income after you capture it...I NEED A TRIGGERER FOR THAT. oh, and do not compare mine to azeroth wars yet....it will BLOW IT OUT OF THE WATER when i am all done with it. (the naga will rise up...so that is why it will blow it outta the water...the naga hate azeroth wars, but they love Scourging of Azeroth)

 

[varsaigen]

if (control point01) is owned by Player (Red)
Give (X) Gold every (X) seconds

basically do that for every single one. lol And then also make capture triggers guess about 30 seconds to a minute of capturing it should work. And perhaps a ping on the map for the player losing control?

 

[Misha]

new nagalings eh? :]

 

[GrandApothecary]

@varsaigen: Of cource it would be possible ;D
I might do that because I actually have a "Fathom-lord" for one of my heros
Ill prob use one of Mishas cause he has the hero.. thing.. under him ;D

But can anyone help me with my disbtn

 

[Silverfish423]

@varsaigen i like the ping idea! =O how do i do the capturing trigger though??

 

[Chaos.]

Ill prob use one of Mishas cause he has the hero.. thing.. under him ;D

Do you mean the hero glow? Cause Var's model does too.

 

[varsaigen]

actually, mine doesn't. though it should have, in retrospect. Though I figured that compared to Misha's, mine would end up more as a unit instead of playing the Hero D:

 

[Chaos.]

Really? I thought it did, lol

 

[GrandApothecary]

Yeah x]
haha
By the way im releasing my naga race soon!
I hope you all enjoy it maybe later today or tommorow:

 

[Chaos.]

Sweet, i just hope that it isnt the same as the other 100 naga race attempts. lol

 

[VeljkoM]

If it is good can I make an AI?

 

[GrandApothecary]

Yes!
But I dont know exactly how to make the computers choose the Naga, I have everything balanced and its a full tech-tree
Alot of the abilities are just other ones but changed, i'll probably work on the hero abilities if people dont enjoy it!

I may upload it now, but im just going to play through it one more time to make sure everythings perfect.

 

[Chaos.]

Send us a link when its up.

 

[VeljkoM]

Feel free to make hero abilities because custom AI can use them.

 

[GrandApothecary]

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/terror-of-the-tides-137875/

I am actually slightly worried haha!
But I hope you all like it, I tried my best ;D
And if there are any balancing issues please contact me about it!

Feel free to alter this map in anyway:

 

[VeljkoM]

Wow 2.6 mb for one race?

 

[Chaos.]

Downloading now

 

[GrandApothecary]

Yes, if I remember right 4.0mb is the maximum for races correct?

 

[VeljkoM]

Yes but you really need to lower it. There are some new naga models that are smaller so you could replace big ones.

 

[Misha]

whoah someone that actually talks more than me.

 

[GrandApothecary]

Woah its Misha!
That guy I dont know!

What models do you think I should replace exactly? I could probably get rid of a few of the icons/models I didnt use im sure that would lower the space a bit.

Edit: I think its the Naga Observatory thats taking up all the space i'll change it when I find a good model.

 

[Chaos.]

Since it has been done a million times, when you make a naga race, you have to make it unique. When playing this I just felt that it was another naga race. It didnt feel new to me. It needs alot more custom features to make it good. Some tips

-Observatory takes up over a Mb by itself and it isnt that good of a model to use for naga. It should be removed for sure.
-Myrmidon, siren, coutyl and dragon turtle have the same stuff. You need to give them something new.
-The abilities and spells are kind of boring. They use the same blizzard effects. I recomend either triggering some new spells or look on this site for some good spells.

It's a decent map for being an expansion to blizzard's naga race. But you will have to put a lot more work in it if you want to make it epic. But good job for a first map.

 

[VeljkoM]

Why triggered new spells are so important? You can drastically change them in object editor too.

 

[Chaos.]

Ya that works too. Just make them different and unique.

 

[VeljkoM]

Like you can make abilities with positive effect to negative. Like Devotion aura can be change to be "fear" aura. Instead of adding armor it can remove it from enemy or healing spell can kill or other wise. Also change buffs also because it is stupid to be hit with one ability and with different buff.

 

[GrandApothecary]

Thats true I could probably make the Aura of the Tide make the enemies have a negative speed buff a small one but still, hmmm,
In all honesty if I gave the Dragon Turtle or Siren wouldent they be kinda OP cause they already have alot of abilities, im thinking maybe add the Couatl some ability and the Mymadon I dont know what I could give them.

I could also use help with custom spells im kind astumped :/

 

[markusbb]

what about a sea turtle transport unit huh.

 

[markusbb]

Or a giant octopus tentacle spell.

 

[Chaos.]

I dont mean add more abilities. I mean replace their abilities with something new.

 

[GrandApothecary]

^Holy crap we posted at the same time!!! I know what you mean, and thats what im saying I need help with those abilities

I could but Naga dont need transport and the Tentacle spell im sure would be to close to the Shadow Hunter wards =[

 

[Silverfish423]

grandapothecary, in my scourging of azeroth map, i am adding and changing some abilities for the naga so they look unique and not the same naga you see everyday. check it out after i have updated it (the updated version will have the naga being completed)

the aura of the tide is actually really cool. i wanna add that to Azshara in my map....maybe you could name the aura as such: Aura of the High Tide or something like that, i am going to use that!! haha

OMGS!! i cant fucking download your map. it keeps saying 403 - forbidden!! WTF

 

[Misha]

so.. apothecary.. you don't know me?

i'm a modeler 'round here ^_^

 

[Lore-Wolf]

well i dont have a good name yet but im working on that and thanks for welcome

 

[Misha]

Your cinem is alreaddy epic. minus this or that :]

 

[Lore-Wolf]

thanks :3

 

[GrandApothecary]

idc! I like you guys already!
And thanks Silverfish that will work :3
I'll release the final when I get around to making new abilities

And is anyone else having this problem, when you go to maps and go to mine it doesent show the title for my map. Can anyone tell me why?

 

[Chaos.]

I was just in the map section and there was a few that you couldnt view the title. I have no idea why.

 

[VeljkoM]

Nameless map? And it was good thing to download it yesterday.

 

[Chaos.]

You DL it, you just cant see the title. Also the #of players beside the title says 0

 

[VeljkoM]

Some bug?

 

[GrandApothecary]

I think so.. hmmm anyone have an idea what Final I should use for Fathom-lord?

 

[VeljkoM]

Tidal wave of destruction?

Also maybe replace murloc ultimate spell with Monsoon? You would just need to make it stronger and to have only one level but at least it won't be starfall.

 

[Silverfish423]

go to ur map. i left a comment