[Altered Melee] My Races

[Dreadwing]

I don't know which one i chose :

1. Finish my dark horde map Before you.
OR
2. Finish my dark horde map After you. So, I got some Inspiration.

Btw i have Dark horde (orc) pack (on my signature)

 

[Chaosy]

Dragonkin for ground units

edit:

Wouldn't the Cult just be undead warriors though? What makes them unique from the Scourage?

No the Cult of the Damned is built on normal races that serves the lich king, this includes pretty much every single playable race in WoW.

 

[kakuzu]

Dragonflight just screams mass air.
Well I already made the forsaken.

Wouldn't the Cult just be undead warriors though? What makes them unique from the Scourage?

Well maybe because they serve Lich King from their own will , i mean like Kel Thusad did

 

[Templassassin]

Dragon Flights.. would be interesting..

Spoiler

even though I secretly wish for a faction with Sylvanas

edit: cult of the damned seems very interesting as well.

im agree!
you can make the dragon's disguise for the land unit and also dragonkin

 

[kakuzu]

How about an ogre map about Stonemaul clan ?

 

[Wa666r]

I don't really want to deal with too much ogres.

I would really love to make Tauren, if only they had building resources.

 

[kakuzu]

How about a pandarian map ?

 

[Wa666r]

No buildings and limited unit/hero models.

 

[kakuzu]

How about a map about mercenaries /bandits ?

 

[Wolffman]

Taurens are a great idea, but the problem is the buildings...

 

[MogulKahn]

How about a map about mercenaries /bandits ?

I think you are just spamming and trolling him...

 

[kakuzu]

I think you are just spamming and trolling him...

I just want to
give him ideas , what is wrong ?

 

[MogulKahn]

I just want to
give him ideas , what is wrong ?

I know that you are trying to help, but somehow you are just like: "Maybe this? No. Then this? No. This is great? No. Then you must go whit this!!! No. But...." and it is never ending circle. Just say: "What do you think about these races: <list of races>?"
And he already gave list of races that he wants to make...
No offense, of course !

 

[kakuzu]

I know that you are trying to help, but somehow you are just like: "Maybe this? No. Then this? No. This is great? No. Then you must go whit this!!! No. But...." and it is never ending circle. Just say: "What do you think about these races: <list of races>?"
And he already gave list of races that he wants to make...
No offense, of course !

Well , OK , if he dont want mercenaries, i will make a list with some interesting races

 

[Wa666r]

I have decided that the next map in the series will be the... Illidari.

 

[Wolffman]

I have decided that the next map in the series will be the... Illidari.

, awesome!
Expecting something pretty cool..

Also, one advice, don't simply mix up the races ( Orc/B.Elf/Naga/Draenei/Demons), make it a bit more related to the lore
You can ask me if you need any ideas for units or anything..

 

[Wa666r]

I had actually made some significant progress on the map before I decided to focus on the Worgen instead. Hopefully, it won't that too long to develope.

 

[kakuzu]

So the next race is Illidari , prety cool , good luck !

 

[Dreadwing]

Its sounds stupid question but...
What is the Illidari?

 

[kakuzu]

Its sounds stupid questions but...
What is the Illidari?

Illidan army : naga , blood elves , lost ones , fel orcs

 

[Dreadwing]

Illidan army : naga , blood elves , lost ones , fel orcs

Owh... Thanks i don't know much lore... I'm wc3 noob

 

[Argos]

Owh... Thanks i don't know much lore... I'm wc3 noob

Why not google it? Simple as that.

 

[Dreadwing]

Why not google it? Simple as that.

I have no idea why my uncle google is very lag without Wi-Fi, it took 10 min for opening wikia...

 

[Go'el]

And some demons too, don't forget about them!
Also, Illidari, my favorite faction <3
You could something like: melee units are Orcs; spell casters are Blood Elves; range units are Naga; siege and air units are Lost Draeneis.
Anyway, good luck!

 

[Wa666r]

According to the wiki on the Illidari, they mostly consist of demon units - Felguards, Succubi, ect. But they also have Satyr, Natherzim, and Fel Orcs within their ranks. Naga, Ashtongue Tribe (Akama's Tribe), and Blood Elves seem to be a part of the Illidari, but more like their own factions that are just allies.

For whatever reason, the Lost Ones that you met in Warcraft 3 TFT are now Broken Draenei. And sense I already made the Lost Ones in my previous map, they will have a minimal part the Iliidari. Same goes for the Fel Orcs.

I will be trying to utilize as many units as I can in a non-mundane way, to really have an insane army.

 

[Go'el]

For whatever reason, the Lost Ones that you met in Warcraft 3 TFT are now Broken Draenei.

This is Blizzard, man...

 

[Wolffman]

Nathrezim are the Legion's somewhat agents or ambassadors in Illidan's forces, so they were always there. The Fel Orcs took Illidan as their master after Magtheridon was defeated. And the Satyr in Illidan's forces are a bit rare in Outland, but plenty in Azeroth. Most of the Illidari are demons, so that's basically your major concern in this, I would say. The Fel Orcs, Blood Elves, Draenei and Naga were vassals of Illidan, so they're technically NOT Illidari, but allies of the Illidari.

 

[Ragnoras]

you could add 2 different workers for illodai and both can build structures!

 

[Wolffman]

^ That doesn't really make sense, why would that work?

 

[Go'el]

Ok, but why? What would be the difference? The model?

 

[kakuzu]

I dont see the point to have 2 tipes of workers but it sound cool !

 

[Ragnoras]

well Kams btt has 2 workers for hmans

 

[Wolffman]

^ Could not understand/comprehend what you meant by that sentence..

 

[Wa666r]

Well actually, since the selection of units is so vast, a second worker could have a role in creating more varied production buildings if all the slots of the first's are filled.

 

[Ragnoras]

i meant Kams btt(beyond the throne) has 2 workers for humans,

waff are you using uji's illidari building models?

 

[Wa666r]

Waff? Yes, yes I am.

 

[Dreadwing]

Maybe You can Replace Fel Orc/Lost Draenei units to Satyr/Nathezim units in Illidari.
Or maybe there is some unit like http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models-530/shadow-warrior-230306/?prev=d%3Dlist%26r%3D20%26c%3D2%26t%3D1

 

[kakuzu]

How about 3 types of workers ?

 

[Go'el]

What the -- you just said that you don't see the point for having 2 workers, and now you want 3?
By the Spirits...
And Satyrs in the Illidari are just really rare, also, Nathrezim are not the Legion's ambassabors in the Illidari, they're actually enemies, you know...

 

[kakuzu]

What the -- you just said that you don't see the point for having 2 workers, and now you want 3?
By the Spirits...
And Satyrs in the Illidari are just really rare, also, Nathrezim are not the Legion's ambassabors in the Illidari, they're actually enemies, you know...

Why not ? Also agree , the satyrs out

 

[Ragnoras]

the workers can be

Murgul:Standard Illidari strucutres with Blood elves(hes the one who can build altarl)

Lost one, Fel orc: Other buildings for outland races

 

[Wa666r]

What do you guys think about having some extra neutral heroes?

 

[Sunreaver]

it would be great just like my High Elf Map

 

[kakuzu]

What do you guys think about having some extra neutral heroes?

Yeah , good idea, but that wont make the filesize too big ?

 

[Wolffman]

Not necessarily..
It's a pretty good idea by the way..
I actually did a similar thing in a few of my maps. Deleted the normal Neutral Heroes, and added in Custom heroes which fit the theme of the map, or the location..
For Example :-
Echo Isles- Added in Naga, Trolls Neutral Custom Heroes

 

[Wa666r]

I was actually thinking 2-3 heroes that will be on all my maps, and then 1 extra that is unique to only one map for each map.

 

[Kyrbi0]

What do you guys think about having some extra neutral heroes?

You can tell I'm a fan...

 

[Sunreaver]

Hows the Illidari Race and also why don't u create description for your Fel Horde map ?

 

[Wa666r]

Hows the Illidari Race and also why don't u create description for your Fel Horde map ?

I do have a description...

By the way, everyone. Out of curiosity, could you all rank my maps from the best to the worst? (In your opinion). With one being the best and your favorite, and 9 being your least favorite.

 

[Sunreaver]

Alright but some of them arr still old versions I will retry the newer updated version. I kinda like the Lost Ones they are great when they have support from arrokea they are the best ones I like.
I will try the others.