Mordork's Quest Remake

[Med. MapGuy]

I posted a small update which adds a new journal entry collectible scattered throughout each playable level (save for the last)! Hope you enjoy! Be sure to also check out Joe's Quest Remake if you haven't!

 

[Nii Rubra]

Spoiler: Original post

Oh dang! Well you know I have to play this as soon as I'm able.

I lowkey kind of figured that if you remade this, you'd probably move away from the movie influences of the classic version, I'm fond of Lord of the Rings and Pirates of the Carribean, and I do enjoy the original's homages to them, but that was very much something that was characteristic of Warcraft 3 creations during those times, when it wasn't those movies, it was The Matrix influences, or Resident Evil/Dawn of the Dead, throw some Linkin Park in there along with your favorite anime from the big 3, and you got the classic flavor of a Wc3 map hahaha, so yeah I'm curious to see how you turned this campaign into more of its own thing. I'm excited for this.

@Med. MapGuy I think I've encountered the same issue as VanAndro, I have slain Kilhelm and killed 30 bandits according to the counter, but the requisite for killing 25 bandits has not been completed in the quest log and I can't proceed. I'm playing on version 1.28, should I try again with a different version?

EDIT: I had a thought, when is the "bandits killed" counter supposed to show up? I can't recall exactly where/when it happened, I'll have to get back to you once I give the campaign a retry, but I am pretty certain that it started before encountering Rexy and before entering the village, I recall noticing the counter showing up at some point and thinking it was a bit sudden, but I didn't think it was a big deal at the time, now I'm beginning to think that maybe this is what broke the quest, I triggered that part early on somehow, maybe I entered some trigger zone while I was exploring near the barricades that prevent you from entering the town, or maybe Alisa or Mordork managed to kill some quest-related bandit from across the barricades, I really don't know. You can even see that the counter already said "26" in one of my screenshots below, and if you look at the map, I wasn't done clearing out all of the bandits in the village yet, so I think it was already broken for a while at that point.

Here are some other minor issues I encountered in chapter 1:

Spoiler: Minor oversights

-Duplicate item: Hm, I picked up an item called "Kilhelm's journal" by the first river crossing but it isn't anywhere in our inventories and it didn't give me a journal entry in the quests, was that supposed to be the case? UPDATE: Okay I found the proper Kilhelm's journal in a camp further north, I now understand that this item was a duplicate that was not connected to the triggers, I will include a screenshot of where I found it.

-Minor description error: So I'm shuffling the starting items around while I wait for Dummash to heal from our battle, and I'm noticing that they don't give the bonuses described in his and Mordork's friendship necklaces, Mordork's says Strength and Agility +3, Intelligence +2, but it only gives him Int +4 and nothing else; Dummash's says that he gets +3 Strength which is correct, but it also says that he gets +4 armor, when he gets 3 instead, as well as the ability to immolate, maybe that's a passive that I haven't seen happen yet, but I'm not noticing any circle of flames around him or anything.

And here is my usual silly nonsense/commentary up to this point:

Spoiler: Intros

-These cinematic shots of Mordork riding into a new adventure have always been some of my favorite shots in the entirety of Warcrat 3 mapping, you've done such a great job conveying this sense of location, with the farm hands working the fields and the rays of light poking through the tree leaves in the wooded path, it's like seeing something out of the world of warcraft (no, not that one) beyond the RTS and RPG stuff, it feels like a beautiful, real place. Were these shots inspired by anything?
-Also, it is pretty funny to have Dummash sloooowly following Mordork this time around hahaha.
-I do miss that awesome city you made, but I guess with the current story set up it wouldn't make sense for Mordork to visit it, I hope it comes back in some way, it was quite a sight.

Spoiler: Chapter 1 (well, the first half of it)

-Oh crap, it's Kratos! He leads a bunch of brigands now!
-I like the sense of placement in the Warcraft 3 story better in this version, both the prologue with that idiot Garithos, and now Alissa saying that Quel'Thalas is gone, makes it feel like we are in the middle of the apocalypse of the eastern kingdoms, whereas before things felt a tad more stable, I think the scene with Mordork consulting the royals in that city, as well as the fact that the dwarves and elves had champions readily available for questing, gave a different feel to the story, now it feels more desperate, Mordork is allying with an Orc, Alissa is roaming the lands looking for purpose and a way out, Dalaran is gone.
-Ohhh Legolamb is dead? That's wild. This kind of feels like an alternate universe type of story, you know, What If stuff, where the father dies and his daughter goes on the quest with Mordork instead
-I really like the music in Alissa's introduction, it reminds me of the Tristam music from Diablo. Okay, I wrote like, an entire paragraph about these cutscenes, and I haven't even moved yet, I should stop being a dork, there can be only one.
-These environments look phenomenal, they already were phenomenal at the time, but the ground texturing in particular caught my eye.
-Oh hey, it's Chad D'Albero (is he related to someone from the Raiders?), and he is battling brigands, but he's a chad, I'm sure he's got this. O-oh, okay, maybe not.
-I do like the change of turning the apples into non-combat healing items the player can find, the apples were a nice flavor item, but they took up my entire inventory back then, this is much more clean and streamlined.
-lol the bridge is out, but Dummash says we could swim across the river, what's next? Shooting locked doors open? Climbing over fences and walls? Clearly this orc has never played a video game before.
-Come on Kratos, there is still time to turn back from this Le Chunk thing you got going on, think of The BOI.
-You know, I've always wanted a dinosaur, I now I get to have one! Dreams do indeed come true.
-A small pause to behold this high fidelity frog model. Behold it, it is beautiful

I'm really enjoying it! I love all of the work you've put into this. I'm not sure what to do about that bug, I may try an earlier version of Wc3 some other time.

 

[Trương Nhật]

how to pass this? i put each 1/3 in feeding box but didnt work

 

[VanAndro]

how to pass this? i put each 1/3 in feeding box but didnt work

When the dinosaur falls asleep, take one of the items and drop it into the box with the right mouse button. I think there was an instruction that pops up on the screen, but I could be wrong. In any case, in such situations, check the Quest Logs (F12) for information you may have missed.

OR Kill Rexy

 

[Armelior_is_back]

I know how important good feedback is, so I'm trying to give as much as possible (and hopefully useful advices as a fellow mapmaker) :
WALL OF TEXT & MAJOR NICKPICKING INCOMING !

-Played the 2.02 version on normal difficulty on my 1.27 game version-

Spoiler: Overall campaign

*those are mostly the same as for Joe's remake :
-first, the presentation is top-notch : loading screens, new models, sounds, music, cutscenes etc. are excellent as always
-for the models, do you use a map with all the models from the mod Rebirth as a base for all your maps ?
-is it on purpose that all the maps are available immediately and aren't connected ? because of Reforged's aversion to campaigns maybe ?
-the music rarely stops after playing this time compared to Joe's quest
-love the idea of collectible codex entries rewarding exploration, but some are a bit dry (the humorous ones are great) - the deep lore is not the selling point of Joe's series after all
-the npc dialogs that appear overhead are easy to miss and don't get logged, I would prefer if you used "transmission from unit" to not miss anything

*those are just for Mordork :
-as much as I like the Howard shore score, it was probably a good idea to change the music since mordork is less of a ripoff hommage to LOTR now
-I really like the change from dwarf to orc because it gives much more a feel of "ragtag band of adventurers" and the intro is more funny this way
-the whole move-attack in buildings wasn't in the old version as far as I remember, why the change ?
-healing touch is great for groups of units, not so much for a couple of heroes because it's expensive mana-wise and dummash doesn't have much intelligence
-the spell animation you use in cutscenes in dummash's dialogs is sometimes appropriate but you use it a bit too much IMO - I love the "showing my muscles" animation though
-I like the new twist on the relation between mordork and Lechunk, I just hope he will be able to redeem himself some day if there is a Mordork/Joe 2

Spoiler: intros

-overall I prefer the old intro because I don't think seeing Garithos has much purpose, unless it's for something down the line ?
-the horse sound should be just before mordork answers him and not long before
-I love the awakening of Mordork using mostly sounds
-it's strange having dummash stroll after mordork who's galloping , I suppose the orc model doesn't have a running animation

Spoiler: map1

-I like the namedrop of Legolamb : even if you change the characters it's nice to know the old version is not forgotten
-dummash's horns are ridiculous I know WOW's shoulder pads have a reputation of being too big but come on... he looks like a car from Texas
-the color of the water is really strange - I suppose it's to mimic this zone in WOW ?
-Chad is a relative of the guy from shards raiders I suppose... can't save him
-the start is really hard in general but the group with the harvest golem is just ridiculous : too many enemies, you can't use abilities on the golem and they got 3 healers !
-gameplay-wise I think it would be cool to get control of the militamen you can save in each skirmish : it would give you a reward for saving them, the healing ability would be more useful and it would be less frustating/hard - a few runes of mana/healing could be good too if you keep the difficulty
-there's an ear-splitting sound that plays at the start of the rexy cutscene, probaly a sound file corrupted ?
-codex mayor's note1 "have think"
-I love the rexy "definitely not a kodo from deandra" puzzle but why did you take her from me after the village is complete ? you can't give me a T-rex and then take it back, you monster !
-dummash's necklace is supposed to give immolate but you can't click it
-sylvanas should give something when she dies IMO
-after hitting the lever one of the clockwork sapper stays neutral and one of the spiders is given to the player
-having a bunch of goblin mechs is cool but saying the pathfinding is a pain would be the understatement of the year
-the female goblin looks really freaky - is that how they are in WOW ?
-I'm a bit bummed we didn't get to control cassandra - farewell, we hardly kew ye !
-polymorphing a bear turned it into a flying ship which is a bit weird, I've never seen a ground unit turned into a flying sheep before, is it vanilla behavior ?
-dummash codex entry "chip on his soldier" : mistake or humor ? it doesn't really work IMO if it's the latter
-the path AROUND the bridge after you get reinforcements is real wacky
-apples are much better as a healing item now, maybe too good
-I got the bonus with still one undiscovered entry in the codex (when I got the alisa one)

Spoiler: map2

-I prefer a barricade or some crates/rocks to invisible walls but maybe that's just me
-the frog in the fountain in the priest's cutscene in a nice touch
-the boat race is super easy since the other ship goes in reverse at some point - don't know if it's intended or the pathfinding bugging out, as it often does
-farelly and felipe : is it a reference ?
-there is a "father joe" too ?
-banshees and ghosts are a bit boring to fight since all they do is make you miss half your attacks
-pitheads codex entry : what's a "jueteng" ?
-when you get control of mordork, you destroy a gate - you can go through the wall on the right of the gate
-I preferred the ol' Pirates of the carribean/Gladiator song for the siege at the end
-the city is eerily quiet when the undead attack - to be clear I only say this because you're usually so good about ambiant sounds (and the music stopped again)
-is the new Deathtrix model an hybrid from starcraft2 ? I loved the old one but this is good too
-after mordork's jailbreak I had to kill a child to get to the items and reinforcements - maybe make civilians run to and disappear into houses ?
-in the cutscene of mordork's spell - alisa's dialog "what he up to"
-the stand is pretty rough because you get a bunch of new heroes you don't know that have to stay alive, and 3 sides to guard - fortunately they're not too squishy, so it's stressing but fun
-OTOH giving another point of the map to protect at the same time is a bit much : the orc and captain manage to handle themselves without me, lucky me
-Flint is still hidden for the showdown with Deathtrix (you can see his icon on the left)
-some of the last minute heroes abilities are pretty useless (earthquake, tornado)

Spoiler: finale

-when you meet dummash you get control of the dwarf but he is stuck outside and still invincible so I suppose it's not meant to give you control
-alisa has a "rune of beserk" with a buggy description
in her inventory
-I think this last part is the best balanced of the campaign : the different Deathtrix clones hit hard but aren't too tanky and your heroes are strong, so you have to be careful but the fights don't drag on like in some custom maps

All in all, a great remake with improved gameplay and great presentation. It's less impressive now than the first version when it came out, but it plays better and has a better story IMO. Only the start should be toned down in difficulty or at least have easier healing.

I hope this will be useful to Med. MapGuy.

 

[Bigger worse]

Another awesome campaign! Can i translate it into chinese and share it to my friends?

 

[VanAndro]

Until the author publishes links to the pre-Reforged (Remake) versions of the games you can download them from here ---> Warcraft III

If there is any problem with the share link write to private message.

 

[Med. MapGuy]

Thanks again to VanAndro, I'll be uploading the Pre-Reforged versions soon for those that do not have Warcraft III: Reforged.

Anyway, I updated Mordork's Quest Remake to be compatible with the latest version of Warcraft III: Reforged. This version has a proper mission select screen, and widescreen loading screens for each mission. I hardly touched the gameplay as... I'll be honest, Mordork's Quest is one of the buggiest campaigns I've ever worked on. Loading between levels causes the game to crash pre-Reforged, and I feel some of the triggers are prone to break if they are edited too much.

Anyway, I feel this latest version is pretty stable, and if there's any issues, don't hesitate to post your thoughts here. Thanks and enjoy!

 

[SABREWULF]

Is it possible to play it on 1.27b ?

 

[Ravager16829]

Is it possible to play it on 1.27b ?

If you want to play the campaign on 1.27, please download the one marked in red square (picture above).
You can also download the oldest one (Wood), but it's quite poor because no good models.

 

[ginnaretur]

Is description correct? There are two chapters, 2 cinematics and a final visible in map selection (I remember there were 2 chapters and cinematics in original)

 

[VanAndro]

Is description correct? There are two chapters, 2 cinematics and a final visible in map selection (I remember there were 2 chapters and cinematics in original)

This is a Remake. Play - list them and you will understand. Combine the pleasant with the useful.