Modeling Contest #20 - Themes

[Deolrin]

Suggest your themes for the next contests. When enough themes are gathered, we'll start a poll and we'll see which one is favored.

So far we have:

Contest	Description
Tier-1 Equivalent ("Footman")	Contestants must create a unit that fits the role of a standard mass-production cannon fodder unit, like a footman, a ghoul, a grunt, etc. It can be a part of the existing Warcraft 3 races(and thus effectively be a 'replacement') or a part of a different\unique race.
Techtree Contest Chain	Suggested by Dionesiist. Contestants have to create a basic techtree in a series of contests related to eachother. Contestants are not forced to participate in all contests, but are highly recommended to participate in at least two. The first contest will be 'Worker'. The one that will follow it up will be 'Footman\T1 Melee'. Next coming up will be 'Basic Ranged', then 'Spellcaster', 'Siege', 'Special\Ultimate' and then finally 'Hero'. (Or a variation of such an order. The order and contest themes are not final.)
Villain	Contestants must create an antagonistic character. The character must represent an evil side or force of sorts, which contrasts a character representing a good cause or force. Examples include Arthas(after being corrupted), Archimonde, Illidan and Deathwing. You are not forced to create a character from the Warcraft Universe; Those are just examples that everyone should be familiar with.
Undead	Contestants must create a model representing the forces of the dead. The theme undead includes but is not limited to: Animated corpses(Zombies, Skeletons), ethereal beings(Ghosts, Banshees), corrupted creatures(Death Knights, Dark Rangers), Vampires(Including vampire-like beings, such as the Dreadlord), and constructs(Abominations, Flesh Golems, Bone Golems). Please note that demons(Pit Lords, Eredar, Felguards, Felhounds, Doom Guards, Succubi) are NOT Undead, unless they are obviously ressurected or in other means representing an undead being(such as Dreadlords, who are technically demons, but are obviously a nod towards vampires).
Demon	Contestants are to create a creature representing a demon. It can be from any franchise or from your own mind - A demon is generally an evil creature, often large and powerful, most of the times coming from hell or an equivalent of hell in a franchise. Examples: Pit Lord, Dreadlord, Felguard, Succubus, Fel Hound, Doom Guard, Voidwalker. Demoniacally corrupted races such as Fel Orcs, Satyrs and Naga are not considered demons.
Dungeon	Contestants are to create a model representing a creature that is commonly found in dungeons or underground in generic fantasy universes.
Doodad Pack	Contestants are to create a set amount of decorative doodads and\or destructibles, to be used in a map's terrain. A doodad only has 'stand' animations, while a destructible also has a 'death' animation(and thus increasing it's usefulness to mappers).
Campaign Screen Model	Contestants must create a scene that is on average much more high-poly than regular Warcraft 3 models. The scene must represent some kind of a campaign screen - Examples being the Warcraft 3 campaign screen which represented a Peon, a Footman, a Lich, a Grunt, a Night Elven Archer(twice), a Spellbreaker, Arthas and finally Rexxar, each for its respective campaign. You are not forced to include a character, or a unit from Warcraft 3, in your campaign screen; A campaign screen might as easily be a landscape, or a sword, or a building, or a room, or whatever you feel like.
Western	Contestants are to create a model based on the Western American culture - Cowboys, Indians, Horses, Cattle, Sheriffs, etc. Variations such as "space cowboys" or "western orcs" are allowed anytime they clearly represent something western.
LEGO Warcraft	Contestants are to recreate a Warcraft III model in a style that is reminiscent of LEGO.

 

[Dionesiist]

WARHAMME... wait, no.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

the purpose of a theme is to be a simple idea that can be summed up in a short sentence so that the contestants are free to explore their creativity.... this paragraph bullshit is ..... well, its bullshit.

As for actual theme suggestions, how about we wait until your "water" theme contest is over before we start humping the next modeling contest to death eh?

 

[HyperActive]

Diablo?

 

[Deolrin]

As for actual theme suggestions, how about we wait until your "water" theme contest is over before we start humping the next modeling contest to death eh?

The naval contest is over. There is no poll yet, but it's over.
There is no poll for the texturing contest either.

the purpose of a theme is to be a simple idea that can be summed up in a short sentence so that the contestants are free to explore their creativity.... this paragraph bullshit is ..... well, its bullshit.

You're saying that 'Undead' is not a broad enough theme or something?
Those descriptions are not for the actual contest, obviously.
Besides, I sure hope you remember what happened to your short sentence bullshit @ Tank contest.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

The naval contest is over. There is no poll yet, but it's over.
There is no poll for the texturing contest either.


You're saying that 'Undead' is not a broad enough theme or something?
Those descriptions are not for the actual contest, obviously.
Besides, I sure hope you remember what happened to your short sentence bullshit @ Tank contest.

exactly my point, which is WHY it needs to be short

 

[Wazzz]

What anarch said.
Anywho, for a suggestion of a theme, what about 'Dungeon' or something? Dungeon meaning creatures from the dark depths below and what not. I'm sure that could be summed up quickly and would give enough creativity for the contest. If not, well, at least I tried.

 

[Deolrin]

Added HyperActive's and Wazzz's suggestions.

 

[D a w n]

personally I would like a doodads modeling contest, but that would be more of a mini modeling contest.
But the 7 deadly Sins theme that got suggested for the texturing contest would be also quite awesome for a modeling contest. Oh and I also like the villian theme

 

[Deolrin]

Hmm.
A doodad pack is an interesting idea, although it was done before. But it was so long ago, most people who made models back then are no longer here.
The seven deadly sins for a modeling contest is a little problematic, because it seems quite likely that this theme will be accepted as the next texturing contest, and according to some people in Chat earlier, reusing themes is bad, even cross-contest.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Cinematic campaign screen
western theme

 

[Deolrin]

Please define 'Western'.

 

[D a w n]

western=guys on ponies

 

[anarchianbedlam]

google it. cowboys, indians, horses, wagons, revolvers and cattle. But if you're creative about it you can make it like... space western or orc western or something.

 

[Deolrin]

Thanks, that's what I thought you meant, but I wasn't sure.

Added all suggestions thus far. I believe we are close to starting a poll now.

 

[Linaze]

I vote for "Tier-1 Equivalent ("Footman")".
Don't mind me though, I'm not joining.

 

[JokeMaster]

ANd wheres the poll?
Villain

 

[Deolrin]

Alright, is everyone fine with starting a poll now, or should we wait for more people to suggest things?

 

[Direfury]

fiend!

EDIT:
Aw, too late :[

 

[Deolrin]

Can you please define that?
I have no idea what you mean by 'Fiend'.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

google it.... that is why god invented google..... it was for people who dont understand the concept of synonyms.... he means "demon"

and btw, "dungeon" and "diablo" are the exact same thing.... hence "synonym".

 

[Deolrin]

You can't really create a Barbarian for a Dungeon theme, or Baal for that matter, and neither can you create anything that isn't from Diablo for the Diablo theme. Dungeon and Diablo have many differences. :/
And Fiend and Demon don't really sound alike, and I'd very much rather have him explain what he's talking about than trust it to some silly dictionary. I know what a 'Fiend' is, I want to know what is HIS definition of 'Fiend'.

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Diablo	Contestants are to create a creature or character from the Diablo universe.
Dungeon	Contestants are to create a model representing a creature that is commonly found in dungeons or underground in generic fantasy universes.

..... when do we get to see the part when debode suddenly realizes that diablo is a dungeon crawler game by definition, and then tries to rewrite his last post?

 

[Mr. Bob]

You can't really create a Barbarian for a Dungeon theme, or Baal for that matter, and neither can you create anything that isn't from Diablo for the Diablo theme. Dungeon and Diablo have many differences. :/
And Fiend and Demon don't really sound alike, and I'd very much rather have him explain what he's talking about than trust it to some silly dictionary. I know what a 'Fiend' is, I want to know what is HIS definition of 'Fiend'.

Uh...You do know that Diablo is a game set in...dungeons right?

Also, a fiend is a demon. I dont understand the issue here.

 

[Dionesiist]

And Diablo refers to a specific dungeon crawling franchise. Dungeon may just refer to either D&D or something completely different. Or someone's original idea. Duh..

 

[Dawn Whitelighter]

what? there is actually an issue??!

 

[Joe-black-5]

Diablo 1: you go into a single dungeon and keep going deeper until you reach Diablo
Diablo 2: you get quests, you go to dungeons, you go deeper, find a boss and beat the shit out of him, get another quest, repeat.

soooo D: yeah
diablo is a dungeon crawler game

 

[anarchianbedlam]

Diablo 1: you go into a single dungeon and keep going deeper until you reach Diablo
Diablo 2: you get quests, you go to dungeons, you go deeper, find a boss and beat the shit out of him, get another quest, repeat.

.... you need to go deeper?

 

[Joe-black-5]

.... you need to go deeper?

so it's a dungeon inside a dungeon after all
but what if both are originally inside another dungeon?
let's put the dungeon spinning top to test

 

[Deolrin]

Guys, guys, guys...
Cut the off-topic please.
Diablo is a dungeon-crawler franchise of games, but 'Dungeon' is not Diablo. Dungeon, as Dio said, can refer to any franchise or the original ideas of the contestants while Diablo forces you to recreate the concepts from the Diablo franchise for Warcraft 3.

And Vermillion's definition of 'Fiend' may be different from the dictionary's definition. If his previous contest models are 'Fiends' by his definition, I'd say it's something rather different than 'Demon'.
In either case, I'd rather just go with 'Demon', since less explanation is required and it's a broader theme. Less confusing as well.

 

[Mr. Bob]

Guys, guys, guys...
Cut the off-topic please.
Diablo is a dungeon-crawler franchise of games, but 'Dungeon' is not Diablo. Dungeon, as Dio said, can refer to any franchise or the original ideas of the contestants while Diablo forces you to recreate the concepts from the Diablo franchise for Warcraft 3.

Yes guys. Cut the off topic, then watch as I continue it. Makes perfect sense. :3

Anyway, on another note, whos hosting?

 

[anarchianbedlam]

...people who don't understand the concept of synonyms....

This is the same bullshit about "technicalities" that made the tank contest fail. They are close enough to be the same goddamn theme. You dont have to try to defend yourself with such weak points. Just accept it and move on, christ.

its like having to choose between a "reptile" theme and a "lizard" theme. all lizards are reptiles but not all reptiles are lizards. They are the same theme except that one is slightly narrower. just remove the diablo theme and leave dungeons since dungeons(>/=)diablo.

its the same reason we used your "water" theme instead of a "boat" theme.... which is hilariously ironic that you made such a big hissyfit about that and then ended up making a boat anyway.

EDIT:

Yes guys. Cut the off topic, then watch as I continue it. Makes perfect sense. :3
Anyway, on another note, whos hosting?

Iono, im always available. and ive finally got the formula down.

 

[Mr. Bob]

Yeah, I'd say have you host again.

 

[Deolrin]

Fine, Diablo theme removed, Demon theme added.
I never said I wont make a boat model, I said that if people want to be original, they could also make someting that is not a boat. I didn't get an idea until three days before the end of the contest, and had to make a model real quick, which also adds to why the model is obviously not one of my best.

I asked anarchianbedlam to host this contest earlier. I got dibs on this one. :X
And I meant the image anarchianbedlam posted and Joe-black-5's comment that followed it. The theme discussion is legitimate in a thread about the next contest's theme.

So you guys haven't answered yet. Are we gonna open up a poll now, or wait for more suggestions?

 

[anarchianbedlam]

I asked anarchianbedlam to host this contest earlier

and when you asked me that i said "sure, of course i will"

 

[Deolrin]

I'm sorry, I meant to say I asked you if I could host the contest. And you agreed.
C'mon, you said yourself that everyone can host anytime it's not fail. Just let me try. I can take care of stuff like deadlines and listing all the submissions.
And please, for God's sake, answer the question.

 

[Mr. Bob]

Honestly, I'd rather have someone who is actually a model mod, and has hosted numerous times before, and learned the best extension system, in charge.

 

[M0rbid]

The western idea of anarchian sounds like pure win to me.
Do i need to tell a reason?
If so...
I did not see many models related to western yet, did I see one ?
I would love this and yeah, would try to get my first contest model on the way

 

[PROXY]

Western would be great, have already an VERY awsome idea :3 (and I would be hopefully able to submit a model in a long time no, in a contest :3)

 

[Thrikodius]

LEGO Warcraft III

Contestants are to recreate a Wc3 character in LEGO.

 

[PROXY]

Nah, don't like that theme. Though it could be really cool to make it, you would need to use custom textures, as it wouldn't look like lego without, and I for one, can't make custom textures.

 

[Deolrin]

Alright, I've opened a poll.
You should all go there and vote.