March of the Horde v1.2

[HrobKing]

Good Job ,
continue making campagin i enjoy this map

 

[HERON]

Good Job ,
continue making campagin i enjoy this map

Thank you
I'm working now about the Undead\Forsaken campaign. Soon I will upload it here

 

[Lazarator]

Thank you
I'm working now about the Undead\Forsaken campaign. Soon I will upload it here

Good to know. I liked this campaign and I'm looking forward to a sequel!

 

[Lich134]

I lose my items every chapter
And my levels keep changing every chapter too

 

[tulee]

I lose my items every chapter
And my levels keep changing every chapter too

This kind of issue happens when playing on an incorrect patch.

You can normally see the patch used to make maps/campaigns in the section above the comments.

Though the 1.24-1.28 is not helpful, since that range is huge, and using 1.24 on a 1.28 made map would very likely bug.
The key thing is maps are forward compatible, so its safe to just use a newest patch which can guarantee it will be work.
But, the newest versions of Wc3, 1.29, 1.30 and 1.31, were all made in a rush to complete reforged, and so are extremely bugged in my opinion. The only way deal with this issue is to hope that custom campaigns are released back into 1.32+, and that map makers actually use it, or else these patch-related bug questions are going to continue haunt the comment section of all maps/campagins.

 

[Spiros kall]

n chapter 3 inside tample how i can open the massive ruined door? its invunerable i have kill all monsters before that gate

 

[Ricox19]

Hello there, I finished your campaign and I must say that you improved a lot since your human campaign, I made a tiny review for each chapter:

Spoiler: Review

1. Chapter 1: I like that you just jump straight to gameplay, without an introduction to the campaign, well, because we mainly know how the RoC campaign goes, I like the change for Grom, his new model and the changes from agility to strength, at the end of the chapter the crusader are very tough, Thrall keeps in the middle of the fight and the AI targets him.
2. Chapter 2: I guess this is the chapter I liked less, once you finish the side quest, the enemy trolls become allies, I found 2 turtles in the river, is there a way to reach them?.
3. Chapter 3: I also didn't like this mission, it feels that you made the temple in a form you filled the dimensions of the map, instead of doing it a more versatile map, I liked the ghost elemental, that slow aura is very original and OP.
4. Interlude 1: I only found weird that the humans and the orcs have the same color, then change color mid cinematic, also cool Sen'jin model.
5. Chapter 4: The custom models of the murlocs and the critters, I had a problem though, the regions that detect all the heroes are too small and don't activate to continue the main quest (also happened in chapter 3).
6. Chapter 5: One of my favorite maps, you put a lot of effort in the terrain design, the unique fountains and moon well that are only aesthetic, though the wisps can repair the night elf houses and the nexus gate really fast.
7. Chapter 6: Amazing chapter, the way you designed this map for the fel orcs feels more interesting, with the fel chaman and the flying unit, I guess even better than the original mission from RoC.
8. Interlude 2: All I have to say is the cool models you got for Veressa the high elf, Modi the dwarf and Caldwell the human
9. Chapter 7: Didn't understand how to beat the ogre boss, had to cheat because thrall being a range hero, didn't level his defensive skills, cheated my way to victory in the arena; the ogres keep punching my hero in the middle of the cutscenes, the goblins like new units are versatile.
10. Chapter 8: Really good chapter, where the consequences from the centaur and harpies help the enemy, it was very easy if you micro the heroes a bit, but I noticed that once at the time to destroy the enemy bases, you get a barrack that can only produce catapults, but they need food to produce and I don't have pig farms to produce.
11. Interlude 3: Nazgrel has a unique design, which is cool, I noticed that you also improved your skill to develop cutscenes.
12. Chapter 9 (part 1): A good idea could be that you could give the choice to let your allies be controlled by an AI or give the control to you, because 4 heroes at max level do pretty much everything without the need of regular units.
13. Chapter 9 (part 2): A little more of cutscenes would've been cool, I mean ,there is a message that says that the campaign lacks the ending cinematic.

Overall:

- You improved a lot in terrain design.
- There are a lot of custom models, that surely you took the time to choose them.
- I like how you decide which spells and the icons for those spells for every hero, do you program them?, also you changed the stats ability that were in the human campaign, and added one more spell in every hero.
- Every hero has a passive skill, which is nice.
- Making every spell click like QWER is very useful, that was a good idea.

I didn't find gamebreaking bugs, that's cool .

5/5 played on version 1,27b.

EDIT: I also saw that you made and undead campaign, are you planing on doing a night elf campaign?

 

[HERON]

Hello there, I finished your campaign and I must say that you improved a lot since your human campaign, I made a tiny review for each chapter:

Spoiler: Review

1. Chapter 1: I like that you just jump straight to gameplay, without an introduction to the campaign, well, because we mainly know how the RoC campaign goes, I like the change for Grom, his new model and the changes from agility to strength, at the end of the chapter the crusader are very tough, Thrall keeps in the middle of the fight and the AI targets him.
2. Chapter 2: I guess this is the chapter I liked less, once you finish the side quest, the enemy trolls become allies, I found 2 turtles in the river, is there a way to reach them?.
3. Chapter 3: I also didn't like this mission, it feels that you made the temple in a form you filled the dimensions of the map, instead of doing it a more versatile map, I liked the ghost elemental, that slow aura is very original and OP.
4. Interlude 1: I only found weird that the humans and the orcs have the same color, then change color mid cinematic, also cool Sen'jin model.
5. Chapter 4: The custom models of the murlocs and the critters, I had a problem though, the regions that detect all the heroes are too small and don't activate to continue the main quest (also happened in chapter 3).
6. Chapter 5: One of my favorite maps, you put a lot of effort in the terrain design, the unique fountains and moon well that are only aesthetic, though the wisps can repair the night elf houses and the nexus gate really fast.
7. Chapter 6: Amazing chapter, the way you designed this map for the fel orcs feels more interesting, with the fel chaman and the flying unit, I guess even better than the original mission from RoC.
8. Interlude 2: All I have to say is the cool models you got for Veressa the high elf, Modi the dwarf and Caldwell the human
9. Chapter 7: Didn't understand how to beat the ogre boss, had to cheat because thrall being a range hero, didn't level his defensive skills, cheated my way to victory in the arena; the ogres keep punching my hero in the middle of the cutscenes, the goblins like new units are versatile.
10. Chapter 8: Really good chapter, where the consequences from the centaur and harpies help the enemy, it was very easy if you micro the heroes a bit, but I noticed that once at the time to destroy the enemy bases, you get a barrack that can only produce catapults, but they need food to produce and I don't have pig farms to produce.
11. Interlude 3: Nazgrel has a unique design, which is cool, I noticed that you also improved your skill to develop cutscenes.
12. Chapter 9 (part 1): A good idea could be that you could give the choice to let your allies be controlled by an AI or give the control to you, because 4 heroes at max level do pretty much everything without the need of regular units.
13. Chapter 9 (part 2): A little more of cutscenes would've been cool, I mean ,there is a message that says that the campaign lacks the ending cinematic.

Overall:

- You improved a lot in terrain design.
- There are a lot of custom models, that surely you took the time to choose them.
- I like how you decide which spells and the icons for those spells for every hero, do you program them?, also you changed the stats ability that were in the human campaign, and added one more spell in every hero.
- Every hero has a passive skill, which is nice.
- Making every spell click like QWER is very useful, that was a good idea.

I didn't find gamebreaking bugs, that's cool .

5/5 played on version 1,27b.

EDIT: I also saw that you made and undead campaign, are you planing on doing a night elf campaign?

First of all, thank you for your reviews, it's very importent for me
Secondly, my idea was to make a demon campaign and then a night elf campaign, but most the people here moved to reforged, so I think that I will wait to the custem campaign in reforged and then I will make them

My English isn't good enough, sorry

 

[ice777]

I stuck in the chapter 3. After opening the final gate in the temple, i dont see anything but there is an invisible creature attacking me. Please help!

 

[HERON]

I stuck in the chapter 3. After opening the final gate in the temple, i dont see anything but there is an invisible creature attacking me. Please help!

Weird, I will check this during the day

Edit: I checked chapter 3 and I didnt find a bug in the final gate

 

[Ann]

So, do you finish epilogue yet? Last time replayed again was dissapointed, i hate to said that, but im sorry for that, im just curious what your epilogue scene gonna be.

 

[HERON]

So, do you finish epilogue yet? Last time replayed again was dissapointed, i hate to said that, but im sorry for that, im just curious what your epilogue scene gonna be.

Sorry about that, but I didn't finish the epilogue, I want to make a something like fortress for the Horde, but I didn't find resources (walls, gates, etc) for this.

 

[Trương Nhật]

my thrall lost item at slot 4 every chapter. otherwise, this campaign is fun to play

 

[jaina7792]

This is my review.

1. History: Another story a thousand times told, orcs, humans and a bunch of demons.

2. Maps: I would define them as a succession of colored corridors, because in the end almost everything is corridor.

3. Gameplay: There is nothing remarkable, on many occasions it becomes quite monotonous.

4. Personalization: If there is a customization work, models, icons and some skills.

It would be very refreshing to meet characters other than those of the official lore...

 

[HERON]

This is my review.

1. History: Another story a thousand times told, orcs, humans and a bunch of demons.

2. Maps: I would define them as a succession of colored corridors, because in the end almost everything is corridor.

3. Gameplay: There is nothing remarkable, on many occasions it becomes quite monotonous.

4. Personalization: If there is a customization work, models, icons and some skills.

It would be very refreshing to meet characters other than those of the official lore...

First of all, thank you for your review, I respect that.
Secondly, I didn't say that all my campaigns are different from the original, only alternative with a few things that I used, like my other campaigns - Destiny of Lordaeron and Rise ot the Damned.

*When I will start with the new campaign, I will try to make a new maps and gameplay, but it's going to take a long time...

 

[JMagister]

I don't know why but in the fourth mission Cairne is invisible to me, luckily he is a hero so I can still select and use him by clicking the hero portrait, however its stll annoying to not being able to select him normally and see him, mostly because i cant control his hp fine.
I'm using quenching mod to play custom campaigns on classic graphics since i didnt buy reforged, so it may cause it, however as i said its still playable since it didnt happen to any other unit.

 

[Zergy]

The Campaign is fun, but the triggers are broken, mate. I can't proceed with chapter 3. Was there supposed to be a boss fight or something???

 

[Ravager16829]

The Campaign is fun, but the triggers are broken, mate. I can't proceed with chapter 3. Was there supposed to be a boss fight or something???

You mean the "broken triggers" during the gameplay, which prevented you for advancing to the next chapters?

Before asking about detailed problems, you must check out the game version of Warcraft III you are currently using. If you are using the latest patches beyond 1.29, this is the main reason the problem occurs. If you attempt to save your progress using "Load-Save" feature, you might risk of being stuck at one chapter.

 

[VanAndro]

And I thank you for creating it and YES I enjoyed it to such an extent that I put it among my favorites.

1-2 days ago I watched a gameplay from your last campaign at a level which, according to some of the people who played the game, is quite difficult. There are certain similarities with the campaigns you have created so far, but it seems that with the March of the Horde you managed to shape your style of creating campaigns, which at least to me seems very similar to a part of the campaigns created for Wc3 versions up to 1.19 mainly:

• strong enemy units that require sustained hitting
• rugged terrain with many twists, turns, descents and ascents
• active opponents who, for better or worse, sometimes restore lost buildings and sometimes not. Specifically for MotH some completely destroyed buildings are being rebuilt but I don't know what because I didn't give them a chance to fully build them. I finished the game on Normal difficulty so that's how it turned out - with a very decent number of restarts ! I made a note to myself next time I play it on Hard difficulty to be very careful.
• no long descriptions in Chapter loading screen
• with a greater number of additional Notes of what to do and possibly what will happen to the items for example if you leave them in the wrong hero or unit
  
  
• with mainly one or two main quests which are subsequently gradually updated. My idea here is that there is an element of surprise, i.e. the quest is not strictly fixed from beginning to end, but develops later

I like all of that.


About MotH:

I liked the story. It could be told better, but whatever. There are many lines that I have seen in many places, there are also over-the-top lines, there are also exclamations that are supposed to create a humorous note, but to me they sound neither funny nor relevant. I liked Korgal's lines the most - somehow accurate and at the same time very real and on point.

In Enemy Land I think it was called - the level where you fight bears and elves all the time was the most problematic for me (before Grom and Samuro drink from the corrupted fountain). The items that store the character have always been important, but I couldn't finish this level until now because I didn't give Grom and Samuro the items with which they could withstand this strain. With the right special items the level becomes quite interesting and is passable by not very experienced players like me. It's a shame they lose them later. On that note, Finger of Death: there are units at this level that you haven't marked as invulnerable to magic, and it doesn't deal any damage even though you can mark them with it. Forest Shield gives +5 armor but does not actually count them in the character's status. I neglected to look at whether it accounted for the item's other characteristics in the status. The 5 piece orb that Thrall collects you could add to his description that it allows attacking flying units.

Heroes: I don't know if the original idea was to be able to beat the whole map only with heroes, but on Normal difficulty that's how it goes. Maybe on Hard things will look more balanced. We will see.

Surprises: Several times the game surprised me very abruptly, which accordingly led to a Restart: for example, the meeting with Korgal's people before the battle with him (I must be getting this character's name wrong, but you know who I'm talking about).

Items, icons, hero abilities: I don't know if they have been around since the beginning or if they were added in the last 1-2 (or 3) years but 5+

Everything else I noticed is trifles and not worth paying attention to.

And in this campaign, there are many opportunities for improvements and correction of shortcomings, but even if this does not happen, I am still very satisfied. A very good second work with an upgrade in game difficulty compared to your first Human campaign.

Played on 1.30 with no gross or critical errors.

 

[HERON]

And I thank you for creating it and YES I enjoyed it to such an extent that I put it among my favorites.

1-2 days ago I watched a gameplay from your last campaign at a level which, according to some of the people who played the game, is quite difficult. There are certain similarities with the campaigns you have created so far, but it seems that with the March of the Horde you managed to shape your style of creating campaigns, which at least to me seems very similar to a part of the campaigns created for Wc3 versions up to 1.19 mainly:

• strong enemy units that require sustained hitting
• rugged terrain with many twists, turns, descents and ascents
• active opponents who, for better or worse, sometimes restore lost buildings and sometimes not. Specifically for MotH some completely destroyed buildings are being rebuilt but I don't know what because I didn't give them a chance to fully build them. I finished the game on Normal difficulty so that's how it turned out - with a very decent number of restarts ! I made a note to myself next time I play it on Hard difficulty to be very careful.
• no long descriptions in Chapter loading screen
• with a greater number of additional Notes of what to do and possibly what will happen to the items for example if you leave them in the wrong hero or unit
  
  
• with mainly one or two main quests which are subsequently gradually updated. My idea here is that there is an element of surprise, i.e. the quest is not strictly fixed from beginning to end, but develops later

I like all of that.


About MotH:

I liked the story. It could be told better, but whatever. There are many lines that I have seen in many places, there are also over-the-top lines, there are also exclamations that are supposed to create a humorous note, but to me they sound neither funny nor relevant. I liked Korgal's lines the most - somehow accurate and at the same time very real and on point.

In Enemy Land I think it was called - the level where you fight bears and elves all the time was the most problematic for me (before Grom and Samuro drink from the corrupted fountain). The items that store the character have always been important, but I couldn't finish this level until now because I didn't give Grom and Samuro the items with which they could withstand this strain. With the right special items the level becomes quite interesting and is passable by not very experienced players like me. It's a shame they lose them later. On that note, Finger of Death: there are units at this level that you haven't marked as invulnerable to magic, and it doesn't deal any damage even though you can mark them with it. Forest Shield gives +5 armor but does not actually count them in the character's status. I neglected to look at whether it accounted for the item's other characteristics in the status. The 5 piece orb that Thrall collects you could add to his description that it allows attacking flying units.

Heroes: I don't know if the original idea was to be able to beat the whole map only with heroes, but on Normal difficulty that's how it goes. Maybe on Hard things will look more balanced. We will see.

Surprises: Several times the game surprised me very abruptly, which accordingly led to a Restart: for example, the meeting with Korgal's people before the battle with him (I must be getting this character's name wrong, but you know who I'm talking about).

Items, icons, hero abilities: I don't know if they have been around since the beginning or if they were added in the last 1-2 (or 3) years but 5+

Everything else I noticed is trifles and not worth paying attention to.

And in this campaign, there are many opportunities for improvements and correction of shortcomings, but even if this does not happen, I am still very satisfied. A very good second work with an upgrade in game difficulty compared to your first Human campaign.

Played on 1.30 with no gross or critical errors.

Hi, I'm glad you liked the campaign.

In general I intend to update all my campaigns before I start a new campaign.
But just so you know, in my campaigns there is no possibility to change the difficulty level, I didn't make something like that in the trigger, maybe in the future I'll add...

 

[VanAndro]

Hi, I'm glad you liked the campaign.

In general I intend to update all my campaigns before I start a new campaign.
But just so you know, in my campaigns there is no possibility to change the difficulty level, I didn't make something like that in the trigger, maybe in the future I'll add...

Yes, I know there is no option to choose difficulty but I think changing the difficulty of the main Wc3 campaign is affected in some way more or less. It's possible I'm wrong. I'll figure that out later

 

[RocketHops]

Hi there, im using 1.29 but the file shows up as "Just Another Warcraft 3 campaign" should i be using a different version? (ive reinstalled everything multiple times) - edit, only the other map shows up now as well

 

[VanAndro]

Hi there, im using 1.29 but the file shows up as "Just Another Warcraft 3 campaign" should i be using a different version? (ive reinstalled everything multiple times)

I can't understand what you are saying in your post. Take a screenshot of the problem and put it in your post - use the EDIT button below. Try downloading the campaign again first. Are you using any kind of Firefox browser? if YES - download the campaign again with another browser.

 

[RocketHops]

I can't understand what you are saying in your post. Take a screenshot of the problem and put it in your post - use the EDIT button below. Try downloading the campaign again first. Are you using any kind of Firefox browser? if YES - download the campaign again with another browser.

updated it, and no i dont use firefox, and like i said ive tried redownloading at least 4-5 times ;-;

 

[VanAndro]

updated it, and no i dont use firefox, and like i said ive tried redownloading at least 4-5 times ;-;

Download from the archive of HIVE Wc3 version 1.30.4. Unzip to a directory of your choice. The campaigns should be again in My Documents - Warcraft III and write if the problem is solved.

 

[RocketHops]

Download from the archive of HIVE Wc3 version 1.30.4. Unzip to a directory of your choice. The campaigns should be again in My Documents - Warcraft III and write if the problem is solved.

The "Destiny of Lordaeron" is working, but "March of the Horde" is now showing this issue, ive redownloaded it a few times and that didnt work.

 

[VanAndro]

View attachment 446731
The "Destiny of Lordaeron" is working, but "March of the Horde" is now showing this issue, ive redownloaded it a few times and that didnt work.

" While it is possible to have multiple versions of Warcraft III installed at the same time,
you might run into some issues due to incompatible registry keys. As such, if you use (or used) another
Warcraft III version, it's advised that you check the registry first by following these 3 simple steps:

- Press Windows Key + R, type in "regedit" (without quotes) and press Enter to open the Registry Editor.
- In the Registry Editor, nagivate to: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Blizzard Entertainment.
- Look for folders: "Classic Launcher", "Warcraft III" and "WorldEdit".

Not all keys contained in these folders cause problems,
but to keep this guide simple - if you see any of these folders,
you can delete it completely as all the necessary keys will be
automatically recreated when the game starts.
It is recommended to do this before running any different Wc version. "

Start again 1.30.4.

Other things that are also nice to do:

• prepatch again 1.26-27 if you have one
• delete all saved files you have in the Profile Folder (for example sv1-game, sv2-game, etc.)
• all logs and error reports in the Logs and Errors folders. All in folders Replay and ScreenShots too.

A complete cleaning of the system from unnecessary files and registries before all this with a program is the first thing you should do and Don't forget to restart your computer.

After all that, run 1.30.4 and you should be fine.

For the campaigns made for 1.29, I'm using 1.30.4 and haven't had any problems so far (unlike 1.29). For those made for 1.24-28 I use 1.27b and have had no problems either.

 

[Ravager16829]

RocketHops, next time you must ask these kind of question in this separate forum. Your post might risk of being moved by the moderator because it's not related to this campaign issues.

Hi there, im using 1.29 but the file shows up as "Just Another Warcraft 3 campaign" should i be using a different version? (ive reinstalled everything multiple times) - edit, only the other map shows up now as well

updated it, and no i dont use firefox, and like i said ive tried redownloading at least 4-5 times ;-;

View attachment 446731
The "Destiny of Lordaeron" is working, but "March of the Horde" is now showing this issue, ive redownloaded it a few times and that didnt work.

Not really a game version issues, but more likely, your download.
Hive uses a new mechanic of downloading the contents, where some people might run into this annoying issues (download sometimes stuck and always redirected to the download page instead of the download completion). If possible, you can use IDM to download those files from Hive. Just add W3X or W3N files like this (marked in brown box):

Spoiler: IDM Config

If not working, try downloading the files using the other browsers.

Also, make sure you check the file size for each downloads you have. If it's different than the original from Hive, there is a high chance the downloads will get corrupted.

If you still face this problems, I highly recommend following VanAndro's advices above. Try uninstalling the entire game, including the registries and the game data stored in "Documents/Warcraft III" and "Saved Games/Warcraft III". Try cleaning up the unnecessary system files. Make sure to restart your computer!

Soon after this should be a reinstallation of the game from the scratch. Try making a separate installs (1.27b, 1.30.4, 1.31.1). ONLY use 1.31.1 if some campaigns are intended for that version (Malfurion's Quest, Lordaeron's Destiny, etc). 1.30.4 is recommended for most campaigns made between 1.28 and 1.30, as well as better game experiences if you don't encounter bugs from 1.31.1.

Last, but not least, DO NOT HIT BATTLE.NET OR USE THE LAUNCHER AFTER THE GAME INSTALLATION!!! You'll get 1.36 (aka "Reforged") if you do this. Only start the game using "Warcraft III.exe", although for 1.27b, you can still use "Frozen Throne.exe".

 

[jardasplay]

A bug report:
In mission "Enemies from Anywhere", once you kill that chieftain, it triggers win condition, but he has a revive, he revives. If you use whosyourdaddy cheat, you can quickly kill him again and he'll drop an item, but there's not enough time to pick it up, as the cutscene is just faster. When you don't cheat, he just revives.
I suggest removing his revive, so we can pick that item up.

 

[jardasplay]

Also, any chance of giving Gorehowl to Grom Hellscream? It's a legendary item, and if thrall has Doomhammer as a weapon, why not Grom? It'd be fun and even made sense.

 

[HuanJuan]

I've got stuck in Chapter 5: In enemy land.

Situation: All night elves and Furbolgs is eradicated from the map, except the main Night Elf base, which is sealed with an unbreakable Demonic Gate (Seems protected by magic of some sort).

There is no indication what to do, other than "Discover the power" by main quest.
Yes, I discovered the Fountain of Blood, but I can't get in there by heroes.

 

[HERON]

A bug report:
In mission "Enemies from Anywhere", once you kill that chieftain, it triggers win condition, but he has a revive, he revives. If you use whosyourdaddy cheat, you can quickly kill him again and he'll drop an item, but there's not enough time to pick it up, as the cutscene is just faster. When you don't cheat, he just revives.
I suggest removing his revive, so we can pick that item up.

I've got stuck in Chapter 5: In enemy land.

Situation: All night elves and Furbolgs is eradicated from the map, except the main Night Elf base, which is sealed with an unbreakable Demonic Gate (Seems protected by magic of some sort).

There is no indication what to do, other than "Discover the power" by main quest.
Yes, I discovered the Fountain of Blood, but I can't get in there by heroes.

I don't recall having a problem with these chapters, but I'll check it out.

 

[HuanJuan]

I don't recall having a problem with these chapters, but I'll check it out.

It's my fault: the building was shown what to destroy to open the gate.

Chapter 9 - Brothers' War Part 1

After the chapter introduction cinematic, when the Demon Gates are finally build, during this cinematic the enemy units can go into my base without any resistance, and kill Peons and destroy buildings. So: During the cinematic the game doesn't stop for the enemy AI player, only stops for the player.

I also want to add, that on the map, where the freshly FEL-ORC Warsong clan has a map previously against the night elfs, and the player controlling the Warsong Clan: Fel Orc Peon cannot get in Burrows, because by the Burrow's Error Message say's: "No peons can be found".

 

[Stormrage164]

It's my fault: the building was shown what to destroy to open the gate.

Chapter 9 - Brothers' War Part 1

After the chapter introduction cinematic, when the Demon Gates are finally build, during this cinematic the enemy units can go into my base without any resistance, and kill Peons and destroy buildings. So: During the cinematic the game doesn't stop for the enemy AI player, only stops for the player.

I also want to add, that on the map, where the freshly FEL-ORC Warsong clan has a map previously against the night elfs, and the player controlling the Warsong Clan: Fel Orc Peon cannot get in Burrows, because by the Burrow's Error Message say's: "No peons can be found".

I got the same problem on this chapter, still stuck on it. I dont know what the cinematic trigger is, it is so random but sometimes it goes in the middle of battle, or when enemy moving towards me, so I ended up losing lots of unit and messed up the whole setup. Not to mention the enemy attacks random bases so you cant prepare for it.

Have you finished this one though? Can you give me some tips?

 

[HuanJuan]

I got the same problem on this chapter, still stuck on it. I dont know what the cinematic trigger is, it is so random but sometimes it goes in the middle of battle, or when enemy moving towards me, so I ended up losing lots of unit and messed up the whole setup. Not to mention the enemy attacks random bases so you cant prepare for it.

Have you finished this one though? Can you give me some tips?

To be honest: I don't know when I finished the campaign or not, but If I finished it: only thanks to my pure fkin will. Build towers around your bases and outposts, and I mean: a lot! Minimum 2 rows of towers on base or outpost entrance. Or build up an army, that can fight back anytime after cinematic. Or, when you move out your army, close the main base of yours in the entrance by minimum 2 rows of Burrows/farms. That should do the trick, and yes, it's absurd, but since then, the author has no reaction to my post. So, this is the solutions I can present for you, nothing more.

 

[Stormrage164]

To be honest: I don't know when I finished the campaign or not, but If I finished it: only thanks to my pure fkin will. Build towers around your bases and outposts, and I mean: a lot! Minimum 2 rows of towers on base or outpost entrance. Or build up an army, that can fight back anytime after cinematic. Or, when you move out your army, close the main base of yours in the entrance by minimum 2 rows of Burrows/farms. That should do the trick, and yes, it's absurd, but since then, the author has no reaction to my post. So, this is the solutions I can present for you, nothing more.

Yeah, usually static defense is my go-to strategy in custom campaign, I havent tried that one here so far,, but the randomness of the AI attacked makes thing harder, especially with 3 total entrances for both bases. One thing that I tried is to camp near the fountain and try to lure all the attack there (except for the south east demon gate), but I just failed due to the pathing of the enemy AI

 

[HuanJuan]

Yeah, usually static defense is my go-to strategy in custom campaign, I havent tried that one here so far,, but the randomness of the AI attacked makes thing harder, especially with 3 total entrances for both bases. One thing that I tried is to camp near the fountain and try to lure all the attack there (except for the south east demon gate), but I just failed due to the pathing of the enemy AI

In one custom campaign(Tale of the Two Broters - Part 2 I think), I had a map, where the main base had two entrances: One is a dead end with a teleporter, and one that lead to the open map, where you can proceed and complete the quests. So, the teleporter part was solved with one simple trick: block the way with farms/burrows. Suprisingly enough, not just worked, but the AI totally skipped to use the teleporter, to attack my main base in the back.

So, maybe, block one way to your base with farms/burrows, and leave only 1 entrance. The blocked way to your base should have 2 layers of farms/burrows, and the "open" part of your entrance should have 2 rows of towers, and in front of the towers 1 row of farms/burrows. The blocked way may broke the AI path finding, so they gonna focus all of their forces on the one open entrance.

Probably gonna broke your finances early game, but if the chapter/mission is not time limited, you should try it.

 

[Stormrage164]

I tried to block path one of the enemy gate using the invisible wolves, but I dont know how to get them to stay still and not attacking first, do you have any idea to make the wolves stay still at all time?

If there is no way to make them stay still, I am planning to put a unit in the enemy path so that when they get killed/destroyed, it will reset the AI to go back to the base, idk if the enemy behaves that way though


Edit:
A.) I ended up defeating the chapter, the key is to eliminate each Town Halls on the 3 fel orcs bases:
- Each base doesnt rebuild town hall and stop doing anything, including sending attack waves, after you destroy their TH. Just go aim the TH, destroy it, ignore other building, and retreat

- Destroy in this order: Middle-Right (the one with Samuro)-Left. Cracking the first one is the easiest but you can be overrun by the counter attack, and it is hard to rush since the other 2 TH is deep in the enemy territory. But once you destroy 2 TH, the rest is easy.


- Timing is important, Just make sure your defense home will not be overrun when you are going outside. I created some towers and leave some units (3-4 grunt or 1-2 tauren with 2-3 flyers, and 1/2 witch doctor) only for automated self defense against the demons. It is a battle of attrition, you want to find your base to be able to defend comfortably first before attacking (but be aware of lumber abundance, map only have scarce trees near your base which is a problem I got)


B.) Units:
Overall, I only use 80 food supply in each base (Just my playing style)
For early game, I only trained grunts and use heroes (with other units given initially) to survive. Throughout the game you might want to mix and switch heroes or units from each bases. Flying unit is the key in damage dealing. This is the squad for the rest of the game (only upgrade stats or skills on relevant units for each bases).

Main (1st) Base =
This base unit option is generally weak, so basically they need tanky units with healing
1. Heroes : Thrall (Wolf is a free damage-taker) + Cairne (taking like 75% of the damage done to my main base)
2. Grunt (not only in early game but also for the rest)
3. Witch Doctor (Important to tech TH level 3 to get healing ward)
4. Batrider (Dont forget the liquid fire, highly effective against building and land unit)

I made a mistake making 6 Demolishers initially so it was harder for me. Heroes have enough destructive power (Earthquake and Volcano) for buildings

Ally (2nd) Base =
This base unit option is better and stronger, but no unit with healing option
1. Heroes : Rokhan (For healing wave ofc) + DrekThar (Cast tornado first, then do the storm AoE in each enemy wave)
2. Tauren (Ultimate tank,= that can be revived)
3. Shamans (with bloodlust)
4. Wyverns (Taking care the dragon is their main purpose)
5. Spiritwalker (max. 3, put in ethereal form, only use their defense link skill in battle and revive killed Tauren)

During defense, you want to give 1stBase witch doctor to the 2nd base, and give 2ndBase shaman to the 1st base. (Dont create shaman with your 1st base, so you dont waste your resources in upgrading them).


C.) What I did:
1. Get the base ready with Towers and Upgrade all skills and attacks level 3. Dont upgrade armor-related, chaos attack will deal full damage anyway.

• After making 5-6 additional peons, tech to TH level 3 first. Focus on lumbers during early period
• Create towers and 2 burrows first and 1 bestiary or lodge (depends on what the base doesnt have) while waiting for TH3, upgrade in lumber mill too.
• Adjust the rest to the game flow
• In the end, this is my suggested buildings:

Towers: For self-sustained defense against demon (without unit and micro), you need 10 towers in each entrance. But you cant do this to fel orcs, they have 1 demolisher that you need to target first with your flyers or heroes
Main Base = 1 Barrack & 1 Lodge & 2 Bestiary
Ally Base = 1 Barrack & 2 Lodge & 2 Bestiary & 1/2 Tauren Totem

2. Immediately attacked Mid first after Samuro died, lead by Rokhan and DrekThar, destroy TH, retreat (At this point I lost all demolishers so I need to retreat, maybe not the case if I can use the 24 supply for other), rebuild units and towers, defense until Samuro attack and died again

3. Then go aim for Right, go straight to the TH, dont dwell too long in the enemy's gate (In this case destroy altar first before targeting TH to prevent Samuro from reviving), use all heroes, somehow the Left Base is also sending their squads to defend the Right Base, so my base have no threat except from demons. Retreat. My base took quite a damage from demons while I left the base.

4. Rebuild units again, maybe some tower, wait for the fel orcs to attack, then go attack with some flyers and 4 heroes. Leave land units and some flyers at bases to help defend against demon. Aim for the TH again, destroy them, and retreat.

5. At this point, the Fel Orcs fully stops sending any attack wave and basically you only need your 4 Heroes onwards. So, you just have to worry about the demon gate. You can attack any gate first. If you attack North Gate, then put all units to defend from South Gate, vice versa.

6. Free Nazgrel. Explore the Map, wipe the creeps, go back to the Fel Orcs base and wipe them out.

 

[Stormrage164]

"CHEATING" IDEA

In Chapter 9, The enemy have 3 gates, I tried to block one of their path with Thrall wolves but it is not working because the wolves always attack automatically then died. What I came to know later is that my spiritwalkers in ethereal form almost never died or get attacked at all, unless from AoE damage such as demolisher, idk why the fel warlock and shaman never target attack them with skills, AFAIK they only use their 3rd skill. Maybe player can block path with wall of ethereal spiritwalkers. If succeeded, I would prioritize blocking the Mid and Right Opening first, so the attack should only go from left opening (which only target 2nd Base). Then, take all 1st Base unit to destroy South demon gate, then destroy North Gate, then proceed to fel orcs. I think you cant block the demons path since they have AoE infernal immolation

 

[w3maniac]

In chapter 4, when you kill the Centaur leader for the first time, it triggers as quest completed, even though he has ressurection so he's not dead yet. That means you can't pick up the item he drops. (You actually can pick it up if you use whosyourdaddy, because after quest completion before mission fades out, there's like a half a second window between the ressurection and the fade-out. Just enough time to one-shot him with cheats and pick the item up.)

At least in chapter 8, the game does not pause in the background during cutscenes, which means your heroes can get killed in the meantime. That's probably not intended.

Grom's Leap spell cannot target magic-immune units - so far so good. However, it does dmg to them (and pushes them backwards) when you leap on a non-immune unit that's near them.

(The Stone Shield skill on Thrall does not make much sense since he's ranged, but that's just my opinion. I'd swap it with Cairne's Endurance Aura or something like that.)

 

[HERON]

Hi guys, sorry I didn't respond to you here, I was a bit busy so sorry for that.

I'm currently working on this campaign from scratch like I did the last one. (Of course I will solve the problems you listed here) but the maps will be improved in terms of the landscape and trigger commands.

It will take time but promise there is something to look forward to.

 

[w3maniac]

I've got stuck in Chapter 5: In enemy land.

Situation: All night elves and Furbolgs is eradicated from the map, except the main Night Elf base, which is sealed with an unbreakable Demonic Gate (Seems protected by magic of some sort).

There is no indication what to do, other than "Discover the power" by main quest.
Yes, I discovered the Fountain of Blood, but I can't get in there by heroes.

There's a building that powers the gate - it's located at the top of the map, roughly directly north of the gate, a bit to the west. Mind you, I got stuck here as well, before I used cheats to reveal the map - and this building looked suspicious to me, so I tried to destroy it with air units and that opened the gate. The game/quest does not inform you in any way about this though.