Making a humanbody from scratch in Milkshape 3D

[Devine]

Creating a proper mesh in milkshape3D

Part 1: Creating The mesh

Part 1.1: intro

Download the detailed video here.​

The main idea is that you create a primitive and deform it. I shall try to explain it like General Frank explained the extrude tool to me back when I was a newb: "When you use the extrude tool, The model is a bit like clay, you can pull clay (faces) out of it." The extrude tool can only be used on lanes, not on vertexes. But really, you should play around with it to experience the true power that lies within it for low poly modelling.

Selection tool

• To select a vertex/face, left click it.
• To add a vertex/face to your selection, shift + left click
• To remove a vertex/face from your selection, shift + right click

Part 1.2: Making the mesh

So first I made a torso. This is where it always should start. After the torso was finished, I deleted the half of it. I did this because I can duplicate and mirror it any time so it will look like one piece of model. I also did this so I only have to make one leg and one arm, then duplicate the model, mirror it and now I have 2 legs and 2 arms and the model will be symetrical.

Part 1.3: Finishing the mesh

So after I did mirror the duplicated half, There might be or a gap between the two parts or the parts of the model can be in eachother. I always make sure that the line of inner vertexes (the ones that form the chest) are on the line that divides the model in a left and a right part (y axis). Then I duplicate the model, mirror it, and there will be no gap or other bug. After mirrorring the duplicated part, you should weld the inner vertexes together, like I did. All the vertexes in the centre of the chest should be welded together using the wel to nearest tool under the "vertexes" tab.

After that, you can work a bit on the atomy of the model or just make it look better by tweaking it here and there.

to do

Part one (video tutorial finished) (need to add some screenshots): the making of the human-body mesh (only arms, torso and legs). When I first tried this, my goal was to create a mesh that looks very similar to a blizzard one.
part two (nothing finished): making a head from scratch
part three (nothing finished): creating an UV map and texturing the model.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

U r h4x.

 

[D a w n]

damn.....this looks WAY easier than geoset merging :>

 

[Devine]

damn.....this looks WAY easier than geoset merging :>

lol, it is. It only took me 10 minutes.

 

[UnholyDobry]

wow didnt thought it whoud be that eassy i'll give it a try. thx for video

 

[wugiboy]

This tutorial explains how to make a mesh from scratch in milkshape 3D.
Part one (video tutorial finished) (written part yet to be done): the making of the human-body mesh (only arms, torso and legs). When I first tried this, my goal was to create a mesh that looks very similar to a blizzard one.

Download the detailed video here (recommended).
or the low-detailed and very unclear youtube version.

part two (nothing finished): making a head from scratch
part three (nothing finished): creating an UV map and texturing the model.

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I really want an admin to allow me uploading this file here,
once this is finished, i'll take care of the headers etc.
I'll also make a writen tutorial about this. cheers.
~Devine.

holy shit!
you and me.. omg.. dude.. thats almost exactly how I make my models..

 

[Devine]

holy shit!
you and me.. omg.. dude.. thats almost exactly how I make my models..

orly?
whell this technique is used a lot. I wish i knew where to find that video TDR made while he was making his chimaera model. He used 3DSMAX but he did it the same way.

 

[BlinkBoy]

the technique is called box modeling, it's the most popular, but I prefer jigrael's technique which consists on streching edges.

 

[Emmanuel619]

better watch this so i wont be noob forever hehe.

 

[Devine]

the technique is called box modeling, it's the most popular, but I prefer jigrael's technique which consists on streching edges.

... Never heard of it .. could you explain it a bit more?

 

[BlinkBoy]

yeah, it's pretty much starting from a single box then extruding it's faces and keep collapsing, chamfering and retriangulating the edges to shape the model. It's quite simple.

 

[Devine]

yeah, it's pretty much starting from a single box then extruding it's faces and keep collapsing, chamfering and retriangulating the edges to shape the model. It's quite simple.

video plox

 

[arthas_king]

you can make custom armor,weapons with the same technique?

 

[D a w n]

basicly you won´t have to make a custom armor if you make a model for wc3 because you will get the result with the texture.

But for weapoms it would work the same way.

 

[Devine]

you can make custom armor,weapons with the same technique?

yes, remember the tank in my model gallery (link in sig)
I also made it like this.

 

[D a w n]

oh btw: I tried to copy your model with vertex modifier but the program failed D:

 

[Devine]

oh btw: I tried to copy your model with vertex modifier but the program failed D:

I'm sorry to say that but ... FAIL!!

Seriously, how the fuck did you manage that?

lol oinkerwinkle screws things up like that ...get milkshape, you cheapskate

 

[wugiboy]

orly?
whell this technique is used a lot. I wish i knew where to find that video TDR made while he was making his chimaera model. He used 3DSMAX but he did it the same way.

I got the style from Whitehorn, but he used 3dsmax as well..

video plox

its in wc3campaigns tutorial section, I think human modelling or something..
as of right now the site is dead though, so I can't link you

the technique is called box modeling, it's the most popular, but I prefer jigrael's technique which consists on streching edges.

very nice and interesting.. he was like stretching it piece by piece, it was like a puzzle of some sort..

 

[D a w n]

I'm sorry to say that but ... FAIL!!

Seriously, how the fuck did you manage that?

lol oinkerwinkle screws things up like that ...get milkshape, you cheapskate

I forgot that I had a tool that could work for me 2 and it did because it can reverse normals

 

[Devine]

I forgot that I had a tool that could work for me 2 and it did because it can reverse normals

.... that needs some heaveh rework.
proportion my pal ...
by the way, here's the newest model I made this way:
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/951382-post362.html

 

[D a w n]

I didn´t cared about proportion because I just wanted to show that your tutorial works....even for me^^

But I think it really needs the written part to give people who don´t know anything about modeling at least some basic knowledge :3

 

[Devine]

I didn´t cared about proportion because I just wanted to show that your tutorial works....even for me^^

But I think it really needs the written part to give people who don´t know anything about modeling at least some basic knowledge :3

don't push me
I'll do it ... some day.

 

[BlinkBoy]

I'm sorry to say that but ... FAIL!!

Seriously, how the fuck did you manage that?

lol oinkerwinkle screws things up like that ...get milkshape, you cheapskate

or get 3dsmax. Read my signature, milkshape can be a big waste of money if you know how to use dexporter correctly.

 

[Pyritie]

or get 3dsmax. Read my signature, milkshape can be a big waste of money if you know how to use dexporter correctly.

Dex's script always fucks up my animations.

That and I don't like envelopes >.=.>

 

[BlinkBoy]

Dex's script always fucks up my animations.

That and I don't like envelopes >.=.>

As I said you must know what to do. I'll post a tutorial soon, which will kill the myth, you could ask Elenai.

 

[wugiboy]

just to clarify;
the arms would need to require a little bit more vertices/polies or else during animations it would seem to look stretched out a bit

 

[D a w n]

or get 3dsmax. Read my signature, milkshape can be a big waste of money if you know how to use dexporter correctly.

I got the test version of 3ds Max and it is indeed really awesome and easy to understand but I´m way too miserly to buy it

 

[BlinkBoy]

I got the test version of 3ds Max and it is indeed really awesome and easy to understand but I´m way too miserly to buy it

You should have read the christmas's banner . (It had to do with being a good bucaneer, xD, sry we can't talk of it) Back to topic.

Yeah, 3ds max is a lot easier and better for everything. You can animate in IK and still export those animations with Dex and Art Tools.

About the turial, doesn't Milkshape has something like chamfer, collapse or Weld target? those make shapping and polygon reduction quite easy.

 

[Devine]

You should have read the christmas's banner . (It had to do with being a good bucaneer, xD, sry we can't talk of it) Back to topic.

Yeah, 3ds max is a lot easier and better for everything. You can animate in IK and still export those animations with Dex and Art Tools.

About the turial, doesn't Milkshape has something like chamfer, collapse or Weld target? those make shapping and polygon reduction quite easy.

It has "weld" wich i used quite a lot.

 

[Devine]

~ Added some explanation...
Is it understandable?

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Is Milkshape free?

(Its actually ontopic)

 

[Devine]

Is Milkshape free?

(Its actually ontopic)

almost .... >>> 25 euros.
and answer my effing question.

 

[D a w n]

I could understand it, but maybe because I´m too experienced with modeling already althought I never made a scratch model before.
But the "What is Extruding" part was great.

Oh and I think you should add as a reason for deleting 1 part and adding it later again that the model will be symetrical then.

 

[Devine]

Oh and I think you should add as a reason for deleting 1 part and adding it later again that the model will be symetrical then.

Good idea.
Done

 

[Kyrbi0]

So wait, Dexporter works? Which one? Because I have 3dsmax9, but I was under the assumption that the 'Dexporter' thingy didn't work.

 

[BlinkBoy]

So wait, Dexporter works? Which one? Because I have 3dsmax9, but I was under the assumption that the 'Dexporter' thingy didn't work.

yes it works, just set animations to linear and clean the weigth table.

 

[Kyrbi0]

(While I don't understand exactly what you mean, that can come with time).

Alright then, so I assume this "Dexporter" is in the Tools section somewhere, right? I don't need a link; just making sure, because I must've skipped over it.

 

[skrab]

Alright then, so I assume this "Dexporter" is in the Tools section somewhere, right? I don't need a link; just making sure, because I must've skipped over it.

here is it
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/666441-post16.html

 

[Devine]

Guys, back on topic please.

 

[Kyrbi0]

Lo siento, senor.

 

[LiOneSS]

Is Milkshape free?

(Its actually ontopic)

nope. 50$

 

[Devine]

~Majorly nicenator'd
and added some additional info.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Imo this looks better

Creating a proper mesh in milkshape3D

Part 1: Creating The mesh

The main idea is that you create a primitive and deform it. I shall try to explain it like General Frank explained the extrude tool to me back when I was a newb: "When you use the extrude tool, The model is a bit like clay, you can pull clay (faces) out of it." The extrude tool can only be used on planes, not on vertexes. But really, you should play around with it to expierience the true power that lies within it for low poly modelling. Selection tool To select a vertex/face, left click it. To add a vertex/face to your selection, shift + left click To remove a vertex/face from your selection, shift + right click So first I made a torso. This is where it always should start. After the torso was finished, I deleted the half of it. I did this because I can duplicate and mirror it any time so it will look like one piece of model. I also did this so I only have to make one leg and one arm, then duplicate the model, mirror it and now I have 2 legs and 2 arms and the model will be symetrical. So after I did mirror the duplicated half, There might be or a gap between the two parts or the parts of the model can be in eachother. I always make sure that the line of inner vertexes (the ones that form the chest) are on the line that divides the model in a left and a right part (y axis). Then I duplicate the model, mirror it, and there will be no gap or other bug. After mirrorring the duplicated part, you should weld the inner vertexes together, like I did. All the vertexes in the centre of the chest should be welded together using the wel to nearest tool under the "vertexes" tab. After that, you can work a bit on the atomy of the model or just make it look better by tweaking it here and there.[/SIZE]

Download the detailed video here (recommended).

To do

Part one (video tutorial finished) (need to add some
screenshots): the making of the human-body mesh (only arms, torso and legs). When I first tried this, my goal was to create a mesh that looks very similar to a blizzard one.
part two (nothing finished): making a head from scratch
part three (nothing finished): creating an UV map and texturing the model.

-Can't wait for more updates

 

[Pyritie]

oh god, tables everywhere

If you must use tables, use

or something.

s look much better because they don't have the ugly borders and darker background.

 

[Devine]

oh god, tables everywhere

If you must use tables, use

or something.

s look much better because they don't have the ugly borders and darker background.

otables?
like [ otable]lol[ /otable]

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Table

Something

Otable

Something

 

[Pyritie]

otables?
like [ otable]lol[ /otable]

Yep. They work just like

s so they shouldn't be too hard. :3

 

[Devine]

Yep. They work just like

s so they shouldn't be too hard. :3

... I tried it and I lost all my collumns and rows and the interface bugged up. :/ Forecast Pyritie says: "You're duin it wrong"

 

[Pyritie]

Sorry, I meant

, not . D:

 

[Pyritie]

What are you talking about, nothing is deleted