Last Battle - AOS

[Palaslayer]

THE LAST BATTLE BETWEEN ALLIANCE AND HORDE

an AOS by palaslayer and r0flc0pt0r

Hi!

Since we love Dota a friend and I had the desire to create an own AOS. A battle where heroes play the main roles. I had the first idea and when i got lazy r0flc0pt0r took over the project.

Both of us are not the best scripters and I am the only one of us being on thehive.

I learned a lot of things here since I signed up.

Now I wanted to introduce the project to the community. Suggestions are welcome, and an experienced scripter would be nice, too.

I will post screenshots of the map and i would be happy to hear your opinions.

progress

Terrain: 99%
Triggers/Scripts: 40%
Units (including heroes and neutrals etc.): 80%
Items: 10%
Overall: 50%

screenshots

Top Lane

Bottom Lane

Horde

Middle

View from Alliance

Alliance

Entire Map

View from Bird perspective

Spells & Heroes

The Mountain King (screen not made in original map)

Mountain King (Learns Dwarven Blood)

Mountain King Ultimate (again not made in original terrain)

 

[bounty hunter2]

Hy:

I will just comment on the terrain which is genneraly bad:

Flat -
Ugly trees -
Bare -

You need more more more shrubery rocks, props stuff like that.
You need better trees, this stink.

The blizzard cliffs are bad, the water part isn't good.

You must improve it, I don't say this in a bad meaning, it is okay but a lot of room for improvement.

 

[Palaslayer]

u know, this is an AOS, not a map for a terraining contest, thought i used enough shrubbery etc....
the doodad number is already damn high, and, what cliffs should i use instead of the blizzard ones???

 

[bounty hunter2]

I would like to point that terrain is important everywhere. I think the map size is too big. If you lower the map size you wouldn't need so many trees.

You should fix the height of the terrain in the alliance city looks sharp and pointy smoothen it.

You should just raise the terrain instead of cliffs, making plateus and adding pathing blockers.

You need to smoothen terrain allover the place and more:

Shrub
Rocks

 

[Palaslayer]

@ bounty hunter: this was a terrain i just made and i very much like it...

it wont be playable at all, so what is ur suggestion to make a terrain like this in an AOS???

screen

 

[Anachron]

Ouch the screenshots of the first post look horrible. Sorry never use lordaeron and you should place fitting doodads and read some terraining tutorials. The terrain is the first thing the others see, if its crap they won't play your map for sure, so better have an excellent terrain and crap gameplay, you will have more chances to get your project hosted then.

 

[Kwah]

@ bounty hunter: this was a terrain i just made and i very much like it...

it wont be playable at all, so what is ur suggestion to make a terrain like this in an AOS???

Yes.

 

[Palaslayer]

now what about this? i changed a little part of the terrain, using more shrubbery etc. including grass and so on..

would u like it like it is now? what could i make better...

cant change much if u just say: thats shit!

screen

@ last post...

what ya mean with "Yes"??

 

[Kwah]

Yes, that looks much better.

 

[Palaslayer]

with that little part, the doodad number has risen by 1500 lol ^^

 

[Kwah]

Then go lighter on the grass.

 

[Palaslayer]

i've yet reworked big parts of the terrain and i am to 40% done!!!

i am gonna upload new screenshots soon and u will see the newestchanges, hope they satisfy u! -.-



anyway, keep helping me, cuz i make the map for u, not for myself!

 

[Kwah]

Use hidden tags, please. Page stretch.

 

[Anachron]

Hes german.
Hes cool.
I like him.
But use ashenvaletrees please.

 

[Palaslayer]

thx for that, lol, ^^

i might change the trees, uh, lots of work, but atm my m8 works on new hero ideas

he got one per day, if not two

 

[Anachron]

Wow okay. I think terrain needs totally reworking, maybe change it to icecrown or something like that. THose are not uberused and good to look at.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Ok, you should use less doodads where they'r not critically needed, and focus on the parts where people will be able to play.
Then just tweak some terrains in.

 

[Palaslayer]

hi again. i am here to give u the brandnew preview of Gyran the Holy - Archangel and one of his spells, the Holy Charge, as well as the new Multiboard.

So, that u dont have to wait any longer, i proudly present my charge (made with some help of paladon, who as well wasnt able to fix my version, so i took his).

Screens of Charge

Multiboard (have to fix te death thing, missclicked there ^^)

 

[Kwah]

Hero Icons for the players on the board.

 

[Palaslayer]

hm, maybe, but later

 

[NinjasDontFight]

I guess I find it funny how the beauty of terrain can fail a person in a AOS. I extremely doubt anyone who ever plays a AOS is gonna watch the beauty of terrain while ignoring the fact that their losing and someone is killing them.


The terrain is fine. Just get something to surprise people with the gameplay or something.

 

[Palaslayer]

since the terrain is only the basic part of a map, yes, the whole rest focuses on the gameplay and is orientated on a charecteristic aos.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Did you know, that the terrain affects to the gameplay?

 

[Palaslayer]

y, what ya mean, i made the terrain beautiful while completely playable? i will fix it in the beta test, too?

 

[Palaslayer]

News + screens

Today, I want to proudly announce that this project might be closed....

BUT the good news is, that Paladon and I plan to put our two projects

SaW - Shires at War

and

The Last Battle between Alliance and Horde - AOS (TLB)

together in one big, amazing AOS, which will totally fulfill all needs of an AOS - Player.

We didnt plan everything in detail yet, but I think that my part will mainly be the terrain
(see some of my work here or in the Campaign Contest:

http//www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/945757-post513.html

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/940556-post439.html

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/941239-post446.html

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/939302-post407.html).

Now, in addition I took a lot of screenshots of the new terrain and some ingame screenies.

Feedback!!!!

 

[Anachron]

Today, I want to proudly announce that this project might be closed....

BUT the good news is, that Paladon and I plan to put our two projects

SaW - Shires at War

and

The Last Battle between Alliance and Horde - AOS (TLB)

together in one big, amazing AOS, which will totally fulfill all needs of an AOS - Player.

We didnt plan everything in detail yet, but I think that my part will mainly be the terrain
(see some of my work here or in the Campaign Contest:

http//www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/945757-post513.html

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/940556-post439.html

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/941239-post446.html

http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/939302-post407.html).

Now, in addition I took a lot of screenshots of the new terrain and some ingame screenies.

Feedback!!!!

Sorry but I really find those screens awful.

Now I am gonna give you somee hints:

• Use more tile variation
• Doodads must fit more
• The seem seems not to fit your AOS
• Doodads seem not to be placed randomly for an AOS
• The tiles / doodads do not fit
• The units do not fit with the terrain
• You use to much bushes for the style
• You use totally awful tilesets

I hope I don't get killed for this, I am just trying to help.

(I know that it is NOT perfect, but I think this fits:
Templar Arena - Screenshot)

 

[Palaslayer]

are those custom tiles?

 

[Anachron]

are those custom tiles?

Ofcourse not, I only use wc3 standart tiles.

 

[Palaslayer]

which? ^^

for the SaW thing i use some winter tiles at one side, but which tiles do u use for ashenvale related parts?

 

[Anachron]

which? ^^

for the SaW thing i use some winter tiles at one side, but which tiles do u use for ashenvale related parts?

I don't know anymore, just check the tilesets for those tiles.

Its quite imba mixing the tiles together.

Best is Dungeon & IceCrown Glacier, they fit together so well.

 

[Palaslayer]

dungeon is red, icecrown is blue - black lol

u mean underground

 

[Anachron]

Oh damn I meant underground.

Btw those grassies I used are from Ashenvale and Sunken Ruins.


if you want I can give you some examples of good ways of terraining.

 

[Palaslayer]

lawl

u know i am no newbie? but i had to work with the existing things which already where in this aos, ya know, it is very old and was my first project...

 

[Anachron]

lawl

u know i am no newbie? but i had to work with the existing things which already where in this aos, ya know, it is very old and was my first project...

I just wanted to give some useful terrain hints.

Yeah I also have an old but good project which I might rescurrent.

 

[Palaslayer]

plz take a look at the new shires at war thread, eh